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Vanity | Feb. 11, 2004 | Nix Two

Posted on 02/07/2004 4:31:25 PM PST by Nix 2

Gotta tell you something, people. Other than listening to the demons wail about the deficit, what difference has it made in any of your lives? None. Interest rates have not gone up. The Medicare reform bill has the rats climbing the wall because it is the first step towards its OWN slow death. Even G-d kept the Jews wandering in the wilderness until the whole generations of them that knew slavery were dead. So now, seniors have a prescription program and younger workers will have private health accounts. It took the dems a gazillion years to try to make everyone in the USA a slave to government and take over US healthcare bit by bit. This year it would have been fully government run if Gore had made it to Pennsylvania Avenue. Bush is unraveling their dream of the world under Marx.

Are you watching the teachers' union howling at the moon? They can't teach, so they blame the kids for not being able to learn. Bush gave them their chance. They are blowing it big-time. The more they try and steal our kids, the harder we fight, and the more they scream. But it will have its end and it will be under a Bush presidency. We need good minds to have better goals. No one knows that better than he does. The dems are freaking out over *No Child Left behind* because if a teacher can't teach, he/she has got to go. The dems would protect these stupid, moneygrubbers at any cost including the cost of your children's education.

Privatization of ALL healthcare is paramount if we are to maintain the best healthcare system in the world. The dems have run doctors out of practice, turned insurance companies into beancounters, claimed that pharmaceutical companies, which have given us virtually many more years to live, vile, filthy creatures who stalk the weak and the poor. Now, the first step back towards freedom is being looked at and whined about as if you so-called conservatives were personally wounded and the bleeding will never stop. The truly wounded are the democrats who see their phoney, dark, delusional world exposed to the unforgiving light of the truth. They are losing...but will you give credit? This is too pathetic. Do you let others do your thinking now?

What exactly about the immigration reform has you so riled up? You are jumping to so many bogus conclusions, I don't even know where to start. You call it amnesty, and I ask you WHEREIN lies the amnesty? Is it not a fact that no illegal will be able to get a job unless Americans expressly turn it down? And is it not further fact that Americans will receive better training for BETTER jobs because SOMEBODY believes that we have better brains and can learn better skills to come up with better ideas, instead of having the sugah-daddy dems giving everyone handouts and more unemployment compensation so they WOULDN'T go back to work. Don't you realize that only prolonged the recovery, not helped it, or me, or you? Do you realize that maybe, just maybe, some of the jobs illegals take right now will henceforth be open to our American teenagers who lost them to 40 and 50 year old illegals flipping burgers, training jobs, entry level jobs, jobs that taught our kids what it meant to have a work ethic and some responsibilty so they can stop expecting us to spoil them half to death. If they want a $150.00 pair of silly shoes, let them but them themselves. If they want a car, a little hard work never hurt anyone. Or has it truly escaped you that Americans First means young Americans as well? THIS takes a generation as well but like liberals everywhere, yesterday seems to be much too late. Well, where were you when all these things were building up? I asked someone a few years ago, right here on this board. He said "Sure, I think about it, but...I have a family and can't afford to do the right thing.

Now, Bush does the right thing, depriving no one of anything, and the crocodile tears are starting to make Conservatives look more and more like the libs with their hands constantly extended.

Are you stopping in your misplaced anger at President Bush to realize that terrorists damaged us in an excruciating way, but if Gore, or any of his ilk would have been president, they would have seized on that moment to finalize their control over us in ways that should make you thank the Lord for Bush. Gun control would be a gun ban period. We would probably be under martial law, our government would be gone, and our soldiers would be patroling OUR streets while Bin Laden was enjoying French hospitality. The Islamist State Department would be busily going about installing some form of sharia law by now. Do you want to be Canada? Then go the hell there and stop calling yourselves conservatives, because you ain't.

If you were truly conservatives, you would be stopping to think about the freedom you DIDN'T lose. We are at war. They aren't here, WE are there. You would realize that fully one fourth of the US was on fire almost at the same time. We've had megafloods. The Clinton Administration cooked the Stockmarket books to give the illusion of prosperity. Bush has unraveled the tangled yarn and then some. Do you think that was cheap? Do you realize that President Bush rolled back many of the insane enviroweenie laws that caused all that, and because of it, logging can happen again. Oil drilling can begin again. Care will be taken to stop the kind of corrupt and corrupted opposing environmental laws that did nothing to help the environment, but it sure helped to line the pockets of the UN believers of the world and their science of unreality and fishy fantasy.

Are you so nonsatisfiable that you don't realize that the man from Texas stood and faced down the UN so that they can't even get a paragraph ratified because he has them running in circles and has not much to do with the terrorists and crooks who run the damb place.

We have a good man as President. He will be even better with a bigger majority in the House and Senate. Anyone else who is, or might run, will NEVER be able to accomplish what Bush has already accomplished, and he isn't done yet...and there is NO SUCH THING as instant gratification. All that leads to his horrors down the road...like Medicare was before this reform.



TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Miscellaneous; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: deficit; democrats; fauxconservative; fuzzylogic; illegals; jobs; kyoto; medicare; navelinthinker; pathetic
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To: tgslTakoma
#640..Comment?
641 posted on 02/08/2004 2:40:51 AM PST by MEG33 (BUSH/CHENEY '04)
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To: MEG33
Well stated Meg. You're 100% correct.
642 posted on 02/08/2004 2:40:53 AM PST by onyx (Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
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To: onyx
Thanks onyx.I don't want us to inflict so many wounds that we all bleed to death before we've entered the real battlefield.
643 posted on 02/08/2004 2:42:49 AM PST by MEG33 (BUSH/CHENEY '04)
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To: MEG33
You got that right. Keep this country out of the hands of the RATS for as long as possible, and we can work on our differences with Bush as his term unfolds.
644 posted on 02/08/2004 2:47:51 AM PST by IrishRainy
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To: Nix 2
I have seen *conservatives* on this board literally threatening to blackmail Bush by threatening to withold their votes if HE doesn't do what THEY want him to.

These people sound like O'Reilly. If you don't agree with him, you are wrong. I love the way he expected to beat hellary in book sales. He will not ever consider that people won't buy his book because of his Bush-bashing.

he has turned the tide of Socialism in this country.

The President is trying to undo in small increments what the libs have done the same way, only over the last 60 years. teddy's response is fun to watch. All of a sudden, teddy's HMO building may start coming down. The libs built, brick by brick, and it can be demolished the same way. Some just want the President to use a bulldozer. I like the health savings plan. I wish the drug bill could have more means testing.

He is doing what he campaigned for. That is something else the libs don't like. He does what he says he will do. Can you believe it? A politician does what he campaigns on.

645 posted on 02/08/2004 2:57:22 AM PST by mathluv (Protect my grandchildren's future. Vote for Bush/Cheney '04.)
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To: EternalVigilance
If it is 20%, you and all of us are screwed.

You think insults will bring em back?

Uh they are the first ones to throw the insults. It's their nature. They marginalize themselve with their unwillingness to compromise and then help elect candidates who are 100 times worse than Bush.

646 posted on 02/08/2004 2:59:18 AM PST by Dane
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To: IrishRainy
I do think some of us have a basic trust in Bush although not approving his every move or lack of beating the Congress over the head on spending.


I believe in Bush and his cabinet...not for perfection or lack of mistakes,but for their best good judgment about our country's security.I think the military has been magnificent.
647 posted on 02/08/2004 3:01:32 AM PST by MEG33 (BUSH/CHENEY '04)
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To: dubyaismypresident
Well you have some non-unappeasable conservatives angry.

Any conservative who gets angry about someone saying that their non-support or constant bashing of Bush helps Kerry the liberal democrat, is not a conservative, IMO, but an unappeasable.

It's really that simple. We have two realistic choices, either Bush or Kerry. Your world is never going to be perfect, I know and you know it and you shouldn't get angry when people point that out to you.

648 posted on 02/08/2004 3:11:54 AM PST by Dane
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To: sauropod
I like what he did re: the Pickering recess appointment.

I like what he did re: Kyoto.

I like what he did re: Healthy Forests Initiative.

Those are important things. Big things! Life changing things. Things that will effect us all for years to come. It took great courage to make a stand for those things.

649 posted on 02/08/2004 3:14:00 AM PST by TigersEye (Regime change in the courts. Impeach activist judges!)
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To: CyberAnt
My comment was in response to the following in the orginal article: Other than listening to the demons wail about the deficit, what difference has it made in any of your lives? None. Interest rates have not gone up. To that I said "Eitehr one of two things. For years conservatives were wrong about deficits or the reply in post two is accurate.

You said: ROTFLOL! You people just don't quit with your disinformation do you ..??

But excuse me, during the late 70's and throughout the 80's and into the Bubba years, all we heard was government spending and deficits were the cause of the squeeze on the money supply that cause interest rates to go up. The orginal poster said rates had NOT gone up even as the government has spent $$ and has run a deficit. So why for those 20 years that I can remember was the conservative budget hawk cause that deficits cause interest rates to go up and monetary shortages? Clearly, they are not linked?

Or as the genetleman in post 2 to the original poster replied "As the man falling pst the tenth floor said, "So far, so good." "

So either the deficits and interest rates aren't linked, contrary to the fiscal hawks of the past two or three decades or we're just 10 floors away from a big splat.

Which is it?

650 posted on 02/08/2004 3:37:32 AM PST by joesbucks
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To: CyberAnt
Sorry, forgot to preface my note in 650 with Good Morning first.
651 posted on 02/08/2004 3:39:20 AM PST by joesbucks
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To: Lazamataz
Maybe he could toss us a bone and use his Bully Pulpit to make sure the Assault Weapons Ban never reaches his desk....?

You're such a contrarian. Bush said from the start that he supported the AWB.
You don't need an assault weapon anyway.

How about a nice chocolate bar?


652 posted on 02/08/2004 3:43:27 AM PST by TigersEye (Regime change in the courts. Impeach activist judges!)
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To: Nix 2
A Republican President should spend as much as possible (on conservative goals) so as to cripple the spending ability of later Democratic Presidents who cannot promote their own liberal projects due to high deficits and debt.


BUMP

653 posted on 02/08/2004 4:01:49 AM PST by tm22721 (May the UN rest in peace)
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To: IrishRainy
Keep this country out of the hands of the RATS for as long as possible, and we can work on our differences with Bush as his term unfolds.

How, specifically, will we work out our differences with Bush? Refuse to elect him the third time? Send him letters?

654 posted on 02/08/2004 4:15:13 AM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: Nix 2
Did Bill Frist just fire Manuel Miranda for finding the demoflat's plan to use the intelligence committee's findings against Bush by leaking real intel, or did he call the dems on the carpet for it? Don't game me, I told you. Frist fired his chief of staff to placate teddy and the morons. I am betrayed. Manuel is betrayed. And so are we all. We had the real deal in our hands and didn't use it. They sure would have used it on us.

Who is Bill Frist? Who does he work for? Never heard of him.

655 posted on 02/08/2004 4:17:24 AM PST by TigersEye (There's a pro-Bush argument if I ever heard one!)
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To: joesbucks
Joe,I would answer you if I knew,but I believe its a matter of degrees.I really want to know if my beliefs were valid!

I still remember the Carter,early Reagan years interest rate,good for my savings account bad for my house mortgage I had acquired.

I have gone back to study the National debts.'46 was really bad v GDP and not sure what interest rates were,but I believe they were in the 4 or 5% range.

My first political book was The Conscience of a Conservative. I am not a purist,my way or the highway voter..I am very concerned for our nation if Kerry wins the Presidency.That is a fact.
656 posted on 02/08/2004 4:20:41 AM PST by MEG33 (BUSH/CHENEY '04)
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To: tm22721
A Republican President should spend as much as possible (on conservative goals) so as to cripple the spending ability of later Democratic Presidents who cannot promote their own liberal projects due to high deficits and debt.

I don't know why people can't see this. The only way to beat the libs is to outspend them. Especially on things like the NEA and Medicare.

May the UN rest in peace.

Amen to that. White House seeks to loan U.N. funds for renovations

657 posted on 02/08/2004 4:23:38 AM PST by TigersEye (There's a pro-conservative argument if I ever heard one!)
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To: William Terrell
I know my differences with Bush do not amount to a hill of beans when compared to my disdain for John Kerry and my fear for the security of my nation if he is elected.
658 posted on 02/08/2004 4:26:08 AM PST by MEG33 (BUSH/CHENEY '04)
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To: Nix 2
Rush was right on about the Frist thing though. There is just no excuse I can possibly think of for his not standing by his lead staffer.

Some of you people do nothing but bash conservative Republicans over every petty little personal peeve you have. If you don't support the party then find another one.

659 posted on 02/08/2004 4:36:21 AM PST by TigersEye ("Where there is life there is hope!" - Terri Schiavo)
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To: TigersEye
He is going to vote for Bush,is voting Republican..read the thread and if you don't know who Frist is ,what are you?
660 posted on 02/08/2004 4:41:53 AM PST by MEG33 (BUSH/CHENEY '04)
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