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Vanity | Feb. 11, 2004 | Nix Two

Posted on 02/07/2004 4:31:25 PM PST by Nix 2

Gotta tell you something, people. Other than listening to the demons wail about the deficit, what difference has it made in any of your lives? None. Interest rates have not gone up. The Medicare reform bill has the rats climbing the wall because it is the first step towards its OWN slow death. Even G-d kept the Jews wandering in the wilderness until the whole generations of them that knew slavery were dead. So now, seniors have a prescription program and younger workers will have private health accounts. It took the dems a gazillion years to try to make everyone in the USA a slave to government and take over US healthcare bit by bit. This year it would have been fully government run if Gore had made it to Pennsylvania Avenue. Bush is unraveling their dream of the world under Marx.

Are you watching the teachers' union howling at the moon? They can't teach, so they blame the kids for not being able to learn. Bush gave them their chance. They are blowing it big-time. The more they try and steal our kids, the harder we fight, and the more they scream. But it will have its end and it will be under a Bush presidency. We need good minds to have better goals. No one knows that better than he does. The dems are freaking out over *No Child Left behind* because if a teacher can't teach, he/she has got to go. The dems would protect these stupid, moneygrubbers at any cost including the cost of your children's education.

Privatization of ALL healthcare is paramount if we are to maintain the best healthcare system in the world. The dems have run doctors out of practice, turned insurance companies into beancounters, claimed that pharmaceutical companies, which have given us virtually many more years to live, vile, filthy creatures who stalk the weak and the poor. Now, the first step back towards freedom is being looked at and whined about as if you so-called conservatives were personally wounded and the bleeding will never stop. The truly wounded are the democrats who see their phoney, dark, delusional world exposed to the unforgiving light of the truth. They are losing...but will you give credit? This is too pathetic. Do you let others do your thinking now?

What exactly about the immigration reform has you so riled up? You are jumping to so many bogus conclusions, I don't even know where to start. You call it amnesty, and I ask you WHEREIN lies the amnesty? Is it not a fact that no illegal will be able to get a job unless Americans expressly turn it down? And is it not further fact that Americans will receive better training for BETTER jobs because SOMEBODY believes that we have better brains and can learn better skills to come up with better ideas, instead of having the sugah-daddy dems giving everyone handouts and more unemployment compensation so they WOULDN'T go back to work. Don't you realize that only prolonged the recovery, not helped it, or me, or you? Do you realize that maybe, just maybe, some of the jobs illegals take right now will henceforth be open to our American teenagers who lost them to 40 and 50 year old illegals flipping burgers, training jobs, entry level jobs, jobs that taught our kids what it meant to have a work ethic and some responsibilty so they can stop expecting us to spoil them half to death. If they want a $150.00 pair of silly shoes, let them but them themselves. If they want a car, a little hard work never hurt anyone. Or has it truly escaped you that Americans First means young Americans as well? THIS takes a generation as well but like liberals everywhere, yesterday seems to be much too late. Well, where were you when all these things were building up? I asked someone a few years ago, right here on this board. He said "Sure, I think about it, but...I have a family and can't afford to do the right thing.

Now, Bush does the right thing, depriving no one of anything, and the crocodile tears are starting to make Conservatives look more and more like the libs with their hands constantly extended.

Are you stopping in your misplaced anger at President Bush to realize that terrorists damaged us in an excruciating way, but if Gore, or any of his ilk would have been president, they would have seized on that moment to finalize their control over us in ways that should make you thank the Lord for Bush. Gun control would be a gun ban period. We would probably be under martial law, our government would be gone, and our soldiers would be patroling OUR streets while Bin Laden was enjoying French hospitality. The Islamist State Department would be busily going about installing some form of sharia law by now. Do you want to be Canada? Then go the hell there and stop calling yourselves conservatives, because you ain't.

If you were truly conservatives, you would be stopping to think about the freedom you DIDN'T lose. We are at war. They aren't here, WE are there. You would realize that fully one fourth of the US was on fire almost at the same time. We've had megafloods. The Clinton Administration cooked the Stockmarket books to give the illusion of prosperity. Bush has unraveled the tangled yarn and then some. Do you think that was cheap? Do you realize that President Bush rolled back many of the insane enviroweenie laws that caused all that, and because of it, logging can happen again. Oil drilling can begin again. Care will be taken to stop the kind of corrupt and corrupted opposing environmental laws that did nothing to help the environment, but it sure helped to line the pockets of the UN believers of the world and their science of unreality and fishy fantasy.

Are you so nonsatisfiable that you don't realize that the man from Texas stood and faced down the UN so that they can't even get a paragraph ratified because he has them running in circles and has not much to do with the terrorists and crooks who run the damb place.

We have a good man as President. He will be even better with a bigger majority in the House and Senate. Anyone else who is, or might run, will NEVER be able to accomplish what Bush has already accomplished, and he isn't done yet...and there is NO SUCH THING as instant gratification. All that leads to his horrors down the road...like Medicare was before this reform.



TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Miscellaneous; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: deficit; democrats; fauxconservative; fuzzylogic; illegals; jobs; kyoto; medicare; navelinthinker; pathetic
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To: tgslTakoma
Hope you get through this thing before that cold has had time to run its course! LOL...

Time for me to retire from the field of mortal FReep combat for the night...way past time, actually. :-)

Prayers that you do get to feeling better real quick!
621 posted on 02/08/2004 1:05:12 AM PST by EternalVigilance (I'm a redhead ...and was once a stepchild...)
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To: EternalVigilance
It's there for all to see. It will do no good for me to go back and fetch your posts, because you will then proceed to deny the obvious, as you have done repeatedly.

Believe it or not NOBODY will care even if you could find the post. It is like such OLD NEWS.

My bet is you don't bring it up ....because you know I am right dude.

The jerk part we can agree on! :-)

No wonder. You would have nobody else to talk to otherwise.

622 posted on 02/08/2004 1:14:22 AM PST by Jorge
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To: EternalVigilance
Guess my memory is holding up okay after all. Hard to believe, since I'm getting older than dirt! At least that's what my kids say... ;-)

Your kids are probably right. ha ha!

623 posted on 02/08/2004 1:21:25 AM PST by Jorge
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To: Jorge
My bet is you don't bring it up ....because you know I am right dude.

Wrong! ;-)

Your kids are probably right. ha ha!

Oh, they are! :-)

Night...

624 posted on 02/08/2004 1:25:14 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
Just to be clear, my apology is sincere if I misrepresented your position on homosexuality in any way, as I obviously did.

You don't need to apologize. You are not the first Freeper who interpreted my position as being "pro-gay".

625 posted on 02/08/2004 1:31:29 AM PST by Jorge
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To: Jorge
Okay.
626 posted on 02/08/2004 1:38:42 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Nix 2
You said to Eternal Vigilance:
If you are going to call attention to something I wrote, why not paste what YOU call an attack against conservatives for me so I can see it for muhself?

This was a message TO conservatives. And I meant every word of it. If you are a conservative, then you ought pay more attention...because people like YOU are part of the problem.

I can just hear you giving a speech to young voters about how awful the president is, but vote for him anyway because JeffingK is more awful...then 'splain why. Pathetic.

Last things first...

You should hear Eternal Vigilance speaking to voters (young or old). It's not at all how you wish others to believe he would speak, per your insinuations above.

Now, first thing last...

Here's what I've seen by your editorial/vanity/flame post that started this whole thing...

Other than listening to the demons wail about the deficit ...

Now, the first step back towards freedom is being looked at and whined about as if you so-called conservatives were personally wounded and the bleeding will never stop....

They are losing...but will you give credit? This is too pathetic. Do you let others do your thinking now?...

What exactly about the immigration reform has you so riled up? You are jumping to so many bogus conclusions, I don't even know where to start....

Don't you realize that only prolonged the recovery, not helped it, or me, or you? Do you realize that maybe, just maybe...

Or has it truly escaped you that Americans First means young Americans as well?...

Well, where were you when all these things were building up?...

Now, Bush does the right thing, depriving no one of anything, and the crocodile tears are starting to make Conservatives look more and more like the libs with their hands constantly extended....

Are you stopping in your misplaced anger at President Bush to realize that terrorists damaged us in an excruciating way,...

Do you want to be Canada? Then go the hell there and stop calling yourselves conservatives, because you ain't....

If you were truly conservatives, you would be stopping to think about the freedom you DIDN'T lose. ...

Bush has unraveled the tangled yarn and then some. Do you think that was cheap? Do you realize that President Bush rolled back many of the insane enviroweenie laws that caused all that, and because of it, logging can happen again. ...

Are you so nonsatisfiable that you don't realize that the man from Texas stood and faced down the UN ...

FLAME AWAY!!!

...insulting, condescending, inflammatory comments, meant to start a flame war. When you start a thread with comments like those laced throughout, it's obvious what you wanted. And you got it.

But has it helped the cause of bringing unhappy conservatives back into the fold? Or has it only further widened the divide?

627 posted on 02/08/2004 1:55:10 AM PST by tgslTakoma
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To: tgslTakoma
...insulting, condescending, inflammatory comments, meant to start a flame war.

BS. Stop with the victim card.

628 posted on 02/08/2004 1:57:20 AM PST by Texasforever
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To: EternalVigilance
No, she was rebuked by a mod on this thread for that statement.

I read further and saw that, much to my relief.

:-)

629 posted on 02/08/2004 2:03:09 AM PST by tgslTakoma
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To: EternalVigilance; nopardons
To: nopardons
If we ever gave you that opinion, that wasn't the our intention. Please do not act as an authorized moderator.
291 posted on 02/07/2004 11:40:39 PM EST by Admin Moderator

Copy that. Over.

630 posted on 02/08/2004 2:04:54 AM PST by tgslTakoma
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To: tgslTakoma
You have posted that twice. What is your point?
631 posted on 02/08/2004 2:05:54 AM PST by Texasforever
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To: EternalVigilance
You have stamina for a sick person!

M&Ms

:-)

632 posted on 02/08/2004 2:07:12 AM PST by tgslTakoma
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To: EternalVigilance
Hope you get through this thing before that cold has had time to run its course! LOL...

Man, what a thread! I think the cold has died from exhaustion. (Now I'll sleep the day away)

:-)

633 posted on 02/08/2004 2:13:28 AM PST by tgslTakoma
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To: Texasforever
Read the "article" again and call BS.

How to win friends and influence people it ain't.

P.S. hon, I am nobody's victim.

See ya!

634 posted on 02/08/2004 2:14:33 AM PST by tgslTakoma
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To: tgslTakoma
P.S. hon, I am nobody's victim.

Well darlin' stop acting like it.

635 posted on 02/08/2004 2:15:57 AM PST by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
You have posted that twice. What is your point?

'Just catching up on my replies, hon. G'night.

636 posted on 02/08/2004 2:16:22 AM PST by tgslTakoma
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To: tgslTakoma
'Just catching up on my replies, hon. G'night.

G'nite sugar.

637 posted on 02/08/2004 2:17:17 AM PST by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever

638 posted on 02/08/2004 2:23:40 AM PST by tgslTakoma
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To: Nix 2
I think the people who tend to believe in Bush are the kind of people who see the glass as half full, people who are just generally optimists. I trust in his judgment because so far I just haven't seen a reason not to. Unlike Clintoon who seemed creepy to me from day 1.
639 posted on 02/08/2004 2:35:08 AM PST by IrishRainy
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To: Lazamataz
I see nothing soothing like fluffy clouds or warm fuzzy kittens in the thought that many good conservatives on this board had rather vote for a third party or stay home than vote for President Bush.

Their disapproval of his record is more important than allowing a lefty Kennedy loving John Kerry to win the Presidency.

I don't ask them to like Bush,certainly not to love Bush.I ask simply for their help in protecting the nation against the democratic take over of the oval office.There IS a difference.
640 posted on 02/08/2004 2:36:33 AM PST by MEG33 (BUSH/CHENEY '04)
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