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Vanity | Feb. 11, 2004 | Nix Two

Posted on 02/07/2004 4:31:25 PM PST by Nix 2

Gotta tell you something, people. Other than listening to the demons wail about the deficit, what difference has it made in any of your lives? None. Interest rates have not gone up. The Medicare reform bill has the rats climbing the wall because it is the first step towards its OWN slow death. Even G-d kept the Jews wandering in the wilderness until the whole generations of them that knew slavery were dead. So now, seniors have a prescription program and younger workers will have private health accounts. It took the dems a gazillion years to try to make everyone in the USA a slave to government and take over US healthcare bit by bit. This year it would have been fully government run if Gore had made it to Pennsylvania Avenue. Bush is unraveling their dream of the world under Marx.

Are you watching the teachers' union howling at the moon? They can't teach, so they blame the kids for not being able to learn. Bush gave them their chance. They are blowing it big-time. The more they try and steal our kids, the harder we fight, and the more they scream. But it will have its end and it will be under a Bush presidency. We need good minds to have better goals. No one knows that better than he does. The dems are freaking out over *No Child Left behind* because if a teacher can't teach, he/she has got to go. The dems would protect these stupid, moneygrubbers at any cost including the cost of your children's education.

Privatization of ALL healthcare is paramount if we are to maintain the best healthcare system in the world. The dems have run doctors out of practice, turned insurance companies into beancounters, claimed that pharmaceutical companies, which have given us virtually many more years to live, vile, filthy creatures who stalk the weak and the poor. Now, the first step back towards freedom is being looked at and whined about as if you so-called conservatives were personally wounded and the bleeding will never stop. The truly wounded are the democrats who see their phoney, dark, delusional world exposed to the unforgiving light of the truth. They are losing...but will you give credit? This is too pathetic. Do you let others do your thinking now?

What exactly about the immigration reform has you so riled up? You are jumping to so many bogus conclusions, I don't even know where to start. You call it amnesty, and I ask you WHEREIN lies the amnesty? Is it not a fact that no illegal will be able to get a job unless Americans expressly turn it down? And is it not further fact that Americans will receive better training for BETTER jobs because SOMEBODY believes that we have better brains and can learn better skills to come up with better ideas, instead of having the sugah-daddy dems giving everyone handouts and more unemployment compensation so they WOULDN'T go back to work. Don't you realize that only prolonged the recovery, not helped it, or me, or you? Do you realize that maybe, just maybe, some of the jobs illegals take right now will henceforth be open to our American teenagers who lost them to 40 and 50 year old illegals flipping burgers, training jobs, entry level jobs, jobs that taught our kids what it meant to have a work ethic and some responsibilty so they can stop expecting us to spoil them half to death. If they want a $150.00 pair of silly shoes, let them but them themselves. If they want a car, a little hard work never hurt anyone. Or has it truly escaped you that Americans First means young Americans as well? THIS takes a generation as well but like liberals everywhere, yesterday seems to be much too late. Well, where were you when all these things were building up? I asked someone a few years ago, right here on this board. He said "Sure, I think about it, but...I have a family and can't afford to do the right thing.

Now, Bush does the right thing, depriving no one of anything, and the crocodile tears are starting to make Conservatives look more and more like the libs with their hands constantly extended.

Are you stopping in your misplaced anger at President Bush to realize that terrorists damaged us in an excruciating way, but if Gore, or any of his ilk would have been president, they would have seized on that moment to finalize their control over us in ways that should make you thank the Lord for Bush. Gun control would be a gun ban period. We would probably be under martial law, our government would be gone, and our soldiers would be patroling OUR streets while Bin Laden was enjoying French hospitality. The Islamist State Department would be busily going about installing some form of sharia law by now. Do you want to be Canada? Then go the hell there and stop calling yourselves conservatives, because you ain't.

If you were truly conservatives, you would be stopping to think about the freedom you DIDN'T lose. We are at war. They aren't here, WE are there. You would realize that fully one fourth of the US was on fire almost at the same time. We've had megafloods. The Clinton Administration cooked the Stockmarket books to give the illusion of prosperity. Bush has unraveled the tangled yarn and then some. Do you think that was cheap? Do you realize that President Bush rolled back many of the insane enviroweenie laws that caused all that, and because of it, logging can happen again. Oil drilling can begin again. Care will be taken to stop the kind of corrupt and corrupted opposing environmental laws that did nothing to help the environment, but it sure helped to line the pockets of the UN believers of the world and their science of unreality and fishy fantasy.

Are you so nonsatisfiable that you don't realize that the man from Texas stood and faced down the UN so that they can't even get a paragraph ratified because he has them running in circles and has not much to do with the terrorists and crooks who run the damb place.

We have a good man as President. He will be even better with a bigger majority in the House and Senate. Anyone else who is, or might run, will NEVER be able to accomplish what Bush has already accomplished, and he isn't done yet...and there is NO SUCH THING as instant gratification. All that leads to his horrors down the road...like Medicare was before this reform.



TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Miscellaneous; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: deficit; democrats; fauxconservative; fuzzylogic; illegals; jobs; kyoto; medicare; navelinthinker; pathetic
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To: EternalVigilance
No, babe. The demons, or so I have always believed, is a pseudonym for democrats, (which I am certain you already knew.) Okay? Simple. They are the ones who are wailing....far off their own beaten path, I might add.

Then I ASKED a question of conservatives. YOU leapt forward with a totally out of context post and you are still doing it. Why?

Other than listening to the demons wail about the deficit, what difference has it made in any of your lives?

See?

501 posted on 02/07/2004 10:37:09 PM PST by Nix 2 (http://www.warroom.com QUINN AND ROSE from 6-10 AM-104.7 FM in da Burgh&WWVA AM)
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To: Texasforever




Cheap shot as usual.

Well hello Pa Kettle. Or is it Ma?

The mundanities in this thread have all been dealt with ad infinitum.

Vote for Bush. I'm voting for Bush. However, I'm not doing it for any of this "speak, see, and hear no evil" claptrap.


502 posted on 02/07/2004 10:37:23 PM PST by Sabertooth (The Republicans have a coalition, if they can keep it.)
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To: Texasforever
The deficits didn't lead to large tax increases...

Come on. Who do you think you're kidding?

503 posted on 02/07/2004 10:38:00 PM PST by EternalVigilance (I'm a redhead ...and was once a stepchild...)
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To: EternalVigilance
Who is looking for a fight now. You very first post on this thread was an insult and it went downhill from there. EV you are a hypocrite.
504 posted on 02/07/2004 10:38:36 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Sabertooth
Where is THAT??? (At least on this thread.)
505 posted on 02/07/2004 10:40:07 PM PST by Nix 2 (http://www.warroom.com QUINN AND ROSE from 6-10 AM-104.7 FM in da Burgh&WWVA AM)
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To: Sabertooth
Vote for Bush. I'm voting for Bush. However, I'm not doing it for any of this "speak, see, and hear no evil" claptrap.

I know you want to be on both sides. However I have only seen you on one side so far.

506 posted on 02/07/2004 10:41:02 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: EternalVigilance
See, this is one of the reasons I support English-only. Learn to read, man.

I graduated first in my college class with a perfect 4.0 GPA and communications was one of my strongest areas of study.

You obviously have a problem in articulating a coherent argument.
Your response had absolutely NOTHING to do with what I posted.

507 posted on 02/07/2004 10:41:11 PM PST by Jorge
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To: Jorge
The one thing I absolutely love about FreeRepublic.........

The love I feel when I come to the boards!

;->

508 posted on 02/07/2004 10:42:45 PM PST by Thumper1960
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To: Nix 2
Believe me, 'babe', there are plenty of conservatives wailing about these deficits.

Many of us warned and warned and warned against this spending orgy, but to no avail.

Now the political chickens are coming home to roost. Might be awhile before the economic chickens come home to roost, but they will. No doubt about it.

Is it fixable? Of course.

Will it be fixed if conservatives remain mute? Nope.

Even the President himself is beginning to address this problem.

Thank God.

One footnote: it is still highly doubtful that the RATs will be able to capitalize on this political opportunity...simply because they have no credibility on the subject.

If the Republicans address it now, in a grownup fashion, the stick the Dems would like to beat us with will be taken from their hands.

Time to get started.
509 posted on 02/07/2004 10:44:06 PM PST by EternalVigilance (I'm a redhead ...and was once a stepchild...)
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To: Jorge
Some people around here insist on showing their own ignorance -- they seem to pride themselves on personal attacks, but it reflects on them, not on their "targets".
510 posted on 02/07/2004 10:44:09 PM PST by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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To: Jorge
If your reading comprehension is up to snuff, you are just being dishonest, then.
511 posted on 02/07/2004 10:45:20 PM PST by EternalVigilance (I'm a redhead ...and was once a stepchild...)
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To: Thumper1960
Yeah, I know 'zactly what you mean.
512 posted on 02/07/2004 10:45:46 PM PST by Nix 2 (http://www.warroom.com QUINN AND ROSE from 6-10 AM-104.7 FM in da Burgh&WWVA AM)
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To: Sabertooth
I am very open minded.

I don't care why you vote for Bush, just so you do.

I wish more people would follow your example.

513 posted on 02/07/2004 10:46:05 PM PST by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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To: EternalVigilance
My post went right to the heart of what you said, and was very much on point. All readers can see that.

LOL! Your post didn't even begin to address what I posted. If it did I would be glad to respond to it. But it had NOTHING to do with anything. Try again.

Why do you folks play these silly semantic games? Do you think no one will bother to go back and read what you wrote?

You obviously didn't bother reading what I wrote before responding. Why should they go back and read it? How silly.

514 posted on 02/07/2004 10:49:37 PM PST by Jorge
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To: Nix 2
The optimist would say it's an example of how dynamic the Conservative movement really is. Dynamicism being a vibrant and in motion concept.
515 posted on 02/07/2004 10:51:54 PM PST by Thumper1960
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To: Jorge
John Jorsett: As the man falling pst the tenth floor said, "So far, so good." Just because the earth didn't immediately swallow the United States when the deficit hit 500 billion doesn't mean that there won't be long-term consequences. At some point taxes will have to go up to pay for this horn of plenty and that's going to hit the economy hard.

You: Both the Reagan and Clinton deficits were are much larger percentage of the GDP and we didn't see the results you predict.
Quite the opposite.

Me: I guess you've forgotten the largest tax increase in history passed by Clinton and his RAT Congress in his first year in office...the one they forced through by one vote.

Guess you forgot that the RAT Congress raised taxes in RR's second term, and spent like madmen.

I guess you forgot the tax increases the RATs forced out of George HW Bush, along with a promise of spending cuts that just never materialized.

Hmmm...looks pretty pertinent to me.

Course, I'm a high-school dropout.

516 posted on 02/07/2004 10:52:13 PM PST by EternalVigilance (I'm a redhead ...and was once a stepchild...)
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To: EternalVigilance
Even the President himself is beginning to address this problem.

EV, why did you pick such a fabricated argument when THIS was one of the reasons I was angry in the first place? Blaming Bush when he has done everything humanly possible to bring this country back with nearly impossible odds was getting a bit much. As a conservative, remaining silent was not an option when some of the worst attacks on him were coming from *conservatives.* It is beyond the pale.

517 posted on 02/07/2004 10:52:15 PM PST by Nix 2 (http://www.warroom.com QUINN AND ROSE from 6-10 AM-104.7 FM in da Burgh&WWVA AM)
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To: Thumper1960
The one thing I absolutely love about FreeRepublic.........
The love I feel when I come to the boards!

It's the gift that keeps on giving.

518 posted on 02/07/2004 10:53:04 PM PST by Jorge
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To: Nix 2
See, you perceive conservatives attacking the President. But that just doesn't square with reality. Conservatives have fought like mad-dogs for this man...for many at great personal cost.
519 posted on 02/07/2004 10:54:31 PM PST by EternalVigilance (I'm a redhead ...and was once a stepchild...)
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To: sauropod
"This is a stupid post. NCLB has dictated that math be taught to special needs children that can't handle it. My ex-wife has told me what has been happening (she is a special education teacher). If the kids can't handle it, the test scores are down. If the test scores are down, the school suffers from the county education bureaucracy and people lose their jobs over a stupid, stupid one size fits all prescription."

I'm sorry but your assertion is not even close to being accurate. First off, you imply that teaching math to "special needs" students is nearly impossible, as if special needs people are all retards and incapable of learning.

I mean, what the heck are special needs students anyway? (I hate that term. To some of today's elites, the term special needs applies to any and all who are not perfect students and/or those with even the slightest of behavior problems.

Consider: Not all kids are easy-as-pie to teach, and sometimes teachers have to adapt, although it seems many in today's teacher unions are reluctant to do just that.

Furthermore, the claim that people lose their jobs if test scores go down is just plain wrong, if not hysterically ridiculous.

I mean, there is not even a "county education bureacracy" in my part of the country.

In fact, county govt. in Bucks County, Pennsylvania has very little to do with education, execpt maybe to provide a few tech schools here and there for kids who want to learn the trades rather than academics. (Local school boards answer mostly to state govt.)

Forgive my perceived beligerence, but the author of the original post was spot on when he/she implied that the Dems are cukoo for going hysterical over GWB's "No Child Left Behind" legislation, which in reality is a long overdue means of getting teachers to make some extra efforts in teaching rather than just giving up and blaming everything on the existance of "special needs" students.

520 posted on 02/07/2004 10:54:39 PM PST by Edit35
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