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Divers Aim To Raise The Graf Spree
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| 2-4-2004
Posted on 02/04/2004 10:49:43 AM PST by blam
Divers aim to raise the Graf Spee
Feb 4 2004
Divers will begin this week raising pieces of the German pocket battleship Admiral Graf Spee, scuttled off Uruguay in the early days of the Second World War to avoid being sunk by a British armada.
The Battle of the River plate that led to pride of the German fleet's humiliating end rapidly become nautical folklore ... and a film.
Hector Bado, a spokesman for the salvage team, said work on the Graf Spee was scheduled to begin tomorrow but high winds and choppy waters on the broad waterway separating Uruguay from Argentina could delay the project until Friday.
A symbol of Nazi naval might, the ship prowled the South Atlantic chasing and sinking as many as nine allied merchant ships before it was crippled by British warships in a December 1939 naval engagement.
Scuttled by its captain fearing a battle with a larger naval force, the Graf Spee has remained in waters less than 25 feet deep only miles outside the port of Montevideo.
Mr Bado said the recovery team will first attempt to remove a 27 ton communications tower equipped with an early radar and what was then sophisticated sighting equipment for its 11 guns.
"The radar was one of the first to be used in that era," said Mr Bado, whose group has private funding and Uruguayan government backing for the operation which could take years.
The recovery operation is a private effort that could take three years or more and would cost millions of pounds.
The team is aiming to salvage as much of the warship as possible to put on display in Uruguay.
"It was a masterpiece in its time," said Mensun Bound, a marine archaeologist from Oxford University.
"And it doesn't have a dark history. Its captain was a man of great dignity and honour. It was a battle in which both sides came out with their honour intact."
Feared by many navies at the outset of the war, the Graf Spee - a pocket battleship which carried less powerful guns and was smaller than a conventional battleship - fought one of the early important naval battles of the war when it was spotted by British forces off the South American coast.
The Battle of the River Plate began on December 13, 1939, near the mouth of the river as the German warship was pursued by a group consisting of the British light cruisers Exeter and Achilles, and the Ajax of New Zealand, under the command of Commodore Henry Harwood.
Uruguayans by the thousands followed the battle from clifftops along the coast and from high rooftops during a booming gun battle offshore.
The Graf Spee was crippled in the fight after receiving several direct hits and Captain Hans Langsdorff decided to seek refuge in Montevideo harbour but was unable to make the necessary repairs within the 72-hour period afforded in a neutral harbour by international convention.
In a decision that avoided the Graf Spee's capture, the German warship subsequently limped out of the harbour and was sunk by Capt Langsdorff on December 17, 1939.
The crew was taken by ship to Buenos Aires and the captain committed suicide days later.
TOPICS: Germany; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: divers; germany; graf; grafspee; militaryhistory; raise; shipwreck; spree; uruguay; wwii
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posted on
02/04/2004 10:49:44 AM PST
by
blam
To: blam; Caipirabob
Huija!
I can pretty much guarantee that this was HUGE stuff for the Montevideans in tiny Uruguay.
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posted on
02/04/2004 10:52:59 AM PST
by
martin_fierro
(Chat is my milieu)
To: blam; snippy_about_it
Thanks for the article Blam.
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posted on
02/04/2004 10:53:11 AM PST
by
SAMWolf
(Why is the third hand on the watch called the second hand?)
To: blam
The Graf SPREE???
(just teasing)
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posted on
02/04/2004 10:53:37 AM PST
by
EggsAckley
(..................**AMEND** the Fourteenth Amendment......(There, is THAT better?).................)
To: blam
More like a heavy cruiser than a battleship. There was a lot of fast and loose playing around with terms in the 1930s.
To: blam
Captain Hans Langsdorff decided to seek refuge in Montevideo harbour but was unable to make the necessary repairs within the 72-hour period afforded in a neutral harbour by international convention. This part's interesting.
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posted on
02/04/2004 10:57:00 AM PST
by
ibbryn
(this tag intentionally left blank)
To: blam
It'll be interesting to see what they can recover. I wonder what corrosion and sea life has done to her.
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posted on
02/04/2004 10:57:17 AM PST
by
Professional Engineer
(Spirit/Opportunity~0.002acres of sovereign US territory~All Your Mars Are Belong To USA)
To: ibbryn
There is a good movie about this story.
They were given no choice. Either they violate the law and end up arrested and scuttled, or thy return to open sea for a guaranteed sinking.
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posted on
02/04/2004 10:58:49 AM PST
by
sharktrager
(The last rebel without a cause in a world full of causes without a rebel.)
To: EggsAckley
I was hoping this was going to be about wild behavior by a cute tennis player.
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posted on
02/04/2004 11:00:27 AM PST
by
eno_
(Freedom Lite - it's almost worth defending)
To: eno_
DING DING DING!!**
You win the prize. I was searching for that............
~</;o)
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posted on
02/04/2004 11:02:44 AM PST
by
EggsAckley
(..................**AMEND** the Fourteenth Amendment......(There, is THAT better?).................)
To: KellyAdmirer
More like a heavy cruiser than a battleship.Displacement, armor, gun caliber, power plant -- she fit into may classes depending on which category you focus on. The term "Pocket Battleship" was hung on her by the British who wanted to emphasize the point that she was built in violation of the tonnage limits placed on the Germans by the Treaty of Versailles. But she wasn't a true Battleship by any stretch...
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posted on
02/04/2004 11:04:03 AM PST
by
Tallguy
(Does anybody really think that Saddam's captor really said "Pres. Bush sends his regards"?)
To: blam
Sinking of the Graf Spee
Oh there was a jolly ship built in Nazi Germany,
And the name of that ship was the Admiral Graf Spee;
And she looted merchantmen of ev'ery nationality
As she sailed upon the rolling, bowling,
As she sailed upon the rolling sea.
She met three cruisers of the British army,
And to stop them she knew would put Berlin on the spree.
Their commander laughed aloud: 'Now merry game there'll be,
For I'll sink them 'neath the rolling, bowling,
For I'll sink them 'neath the rolling sea.'
She fired her mighty guns, did the Admiral Graf Spee;
Her captain laughed aloud, and hugged himself with glee,
But he swore a hasty oath as the little cruisers three
Came dashing over the rolling, bowling,
Came dashing over the rolling sea.
'To the helm, quick,' he cries, 'and turn face right merrily,
Or our Fuhrer's small moustache we never more may live to see.'
With his tail between his legs, in his ear a lively flea,
He went scurrying through the rolling, bowling,
He went scurrying through the rolling sea.
Yes, the 'bear' he went to cover where his wounds
the world could see,
For the British bulldog bite had hurted painfully,
And the foeman speeding forward knew the fight that he had seen
Would end beneath the rolling, bowling,
Would end beneath the rolling sea.
Yes, and this was the end of the Admiral Graf Spee,
And perhaps it was for this that a pocket ship was she,
For in Davy Jones's pocket, scuttled most ingloriously,
She rusts beneath the rolling, bowling,
She rusts beneath the rolling sea.
The Admiral Graf Spee was scuttled in Montevideo harbor in 1939
to prevent its capture by by Ajax, Achilles and Exeter. Big morale
boost to the Allied forces.RG
Song based on Golden Vanity (VANTYGL*)
from a newspaper in County Armagh
Printed in Roy Palmer, Oxford Book of Sea Songs
SOF
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posted on
02/04/2004 11:04:15 AM PST
by
coydog
(I love my country, I loathe its government. I AM Canadian.)
To: EggsAckley
BUMP.
To: blam
Just a little trivia, but "Graf" is German for Count or Earl. So the battleship "Admiral Graf Spree" was named for an Admiral who was also Germanic Royalty...a bit quirky considering that Hitler's rise to power depended upon the German Kaiser (Ceasar / King) being out of the picture.
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posted on
02/04/2004 11:04:48 AM PST
by
Southack
(Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
To: Constitution Day
heheheh.
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posted on
02/04/2004 11:09:20 AM PST
by
EggsAckley
(..................**AMEND** the Fourteenth Amendment......(There, is THAT better?).................)
To: Southack
Well, Nazism eventually had to co-opt and incorporate the old royalist elites, largely through their dire fear of Communism.
Always was a lot of tension in the regime between the "old guard" and the upstart "corporals" like Hitler who had the power.
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posted on
02/04/2004 11:09:26 AM PST
by
John H K
To: sharktrager
They were given no choice. Either they violate the law and end up arrested and scuttled, or thy return to open sea for a guaranteed sinking.Read a great book where it's described how this actually happened.
The british actually rose fake masts on a ship to make it's silhouette look lake a great warship taht was really a thousand miles away.
To: ibbryn
Actually it's even more interesting than that. Under the so-called "Cruiser Rules" the German ship couldn't leave a neutral port within a certain time period (I think it was 24-hours) of the departure of a ship from a hostile nation. The Brits had several merchant ships in Montevideo harbor and they were letting them leave one-at-a-time in order to prevent the Graf Spee's early departure. By this gambit the British consulate was attempting to 'hold' the Graf Spee in the harbor until more Naval Forces arrived.
The deception worked: Capt. Langsdorff was convinced that he was going to run into a British Battle Fleet instead of a few damaged light cruisers, and so he slipped anchor with a skeleton crew and scuttled the ship, much to the relief of the British sailors.
The Graf Spee -- damaged as she was -- constituted a superior force to the allied cruiser force. She had them outranged & outgunned bigtime.
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posted on
02/04/2004 11:12:23 AM PST
by
Tallguy
(Does anybody really think that Saddam's captor really said "Pres. Bush sends his regards"?)
To: Professional Engineer
It'll be interesting to see what they can recover. I wonder what corrosion and sea life has done to her. I understood that it was heavily 'mined' for it's steel to supplant the scarce natural resources in the area.
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posted on
02/04/2004 11:12:32 AM PST
by
TC Rider
(The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
To: Southack
I believe the Graf Spee was completed in the '20's -- before Hitler came to power. He could have changed the name as he had done with the "Deutschland" (which was the Graf Spee's sister ship).
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posted on
02/04/2004 11:14:27 AM PST
by
Tallguy
(Does anybody really think that Saddam's captor really said "Pres. Bush sends his regards"?)
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