[Tumbleweed_Connection]

Georgia Takes on 'Evolution'

[Conspiracy Guy]

I hate biology.

CG

[Always Right]

Evolution is not an isolated concept that can be expediently omitted from a high-school biology syllabus. Rather, it is the single unifying concept of modern biology.

Liberals always overstate the importance of evolution. Some of the greatest biologist and scientist don't believe in evolution. The vast majority of biology has nothing to do with evolution.

[tbpiper]

The writer is a research fellow, department of cell biology, Yale University School of Medicine.

This guy can't see the forest for the trees.

[Ken522]

ALBERT E. PRICE, with his exaulted position and impeccable credentials, must think himself as one of the elite.

[bzrd]

He equates evolution with Newton's laws...and thus...exposed his bias on the subject.

Brian.

[Dust in the Wind]

"Without it, students are denied a framework to understand how these different areas are related and interdependent."

Sounds like a potfull of lousy instructors to me. This person's brain obviously has fallen short of the number of links necessary to evolve a coherent conclusion.

[70times7]

Here we go again.

I am so frustrated by the fact that we creationists are biased ignorant fools with no reasoning skills at all. We just believe what we choose and readily dismiss facts that don't line up with the framework we have selected. We force through our right wing mythology through intimidation and bullying. This is why creation is taught freely throughout the land and evolution is, at the least, frowned upon in our high schools. And, oh yes, we own the NEA, we just absolutely own it.

On the other hand, those who believe (sorry, bad choice of words) in evolution are unbiased, above reproach and are clearly intellectually superior (I must presume this is through evolution... damn this large brow of mine!)

Oh well, perhaps one day my sorry mind will crawl out of its primordial soup and I will abandon my efforts to keep mankind in the mental Stone Age. The Vulcans and the United Federation of Planets is waiting to see when we will be sufficiently warped to join them.

[ThinkPlease]

G'morning ping.

[Quix]

BELIEVE IN EVOLUTION! Great practice for denial of all sorts; illogic of all sorts; belief in lies of all sorts.

Actually, ET driven ET seeded panspermia holds more water than evolution does!

[ml/nj]

The neat thing about Newton's laws is that they are not contradicted (at least for velocities which are small compared to the speed of light). The problem with "evolution" (whatever it is since "evolution" seems to evole too) is that it is riddled with contradictions and inconsistencies. I guess saying that "evolution" is fundamental to modern biology must make it so.

ML/NJ

[aruanan]

Denying Evolution Is Denying Biology

If this is talking about so-called micro-evolution, speciation, "jumping genes", mitochondrial drift, etc., etc., etc., no problem. But when these actual, observed, biological facts are used, like papier mache, to cover in bits and pieces and give form to an otherwise invisible intellectual construct, use that appearance as a means to imbue the bits and pieces of fact with greater significance than they could ever have had alone, and then use that significance as proof of some sort of unassailable facthood of the invisible construct (viz the title of this thread), then one has embarked on an enterprise, no doubt highly creative, even artistic, of weaving together unexamined assumptions, begged questions, intellectual distaste, and ardent hopes with biological fact into a simulacrum of something one can feel comfortable with (anyone familiar with the philosophical context of the hunt for a naturalistic Explanation of All that anticipated and rejoiced in Darwin will understand this). It is to real biology what deconstructionist literary criticism or psychoanalysis is to a book or a mind: it tells you a lot more about the one doing the criticism or analysis than it does about anything that's actually out there.

[ThinkPlease]

Dr. Price is completely correct in what he says. I always think its funny when people doubt scientists for their findings, especially when they are indeed not qualified to understand the mechanisms and reasoning behind those findings. People rarely doubt their mechanic, nor do they doubt their doctor, or a police detective when they make determinations based on available evidence. Yet, scientists (astronomers and biologists in particular) are attacked and doubted regularly. Talk about a double standard. When are people going to realize that biblical literalism isn't going to work?

[PatrickHenry]

A few recent threads on the classroom controversy:
Georgia may shun 'evolution' in schools.
Georgia Takes on 'Evolution'.
JIMMY MONKEYS WITH EVOLUTION FOE.

[Sloth]

Rather, it is the single unifying concept of modern biology. It unites all areas of biology, from ecology to physiology to biochemistry and beyond. Without it, students are denied a framework to understand how these different areas are related and interdependent.

Evolutionary theory should be covered in biology classes, but to claim that it is foundational to understanding the rest of biology is an absurd lie. It is not "the single unifying concept of modern biology" by any stretch of the imagination.

[montag813]

I don't get the big controversy over evolution. Evidence clearly supports this fact over 2 centuries. Why does this offend some people's religious beliefs? I see evolution as inseperable from creationism, and not at all mutually exclusive. Who else but the Lord could devise such a wonderfully complex system?

[stanz]

The title says it all. You cannot study biology without accepting evolution as its one unifying tenet.

[BibChr]

Be sure not to miss the writer's followup:

Chanting Dogma Is Chanting Truth — If I Chant It!

Dan

[gg188]

Denying Evolution Is Denying Biology

Denying GLOBAL WARMING is denying biology.

Denying that capitalism is evil is denying economics.

Denying that Islam is the religion of peace is denying history.

Denying that homosexuality is an inherited DNA trait is denying genetics.

Denying that Reagan was stupid and that the 80's were the worst decade ever is denying history.

Denying that the USA is the root of all problems in the world is denying multiculturalism and diversity.

(and other BS they teach kids in college.)

[exmarine]

Without it [evolution], students are denied a framework to understand how these different areas are related and interdependent.

They should say, "without it, students are denied a SECULAR HUMANIST ATHEISTIC framework..."

[Jim Noble]

Evolution is not an isolated concept that can be expediently omitted from a high-school biology syllabus. Rather, it is the single unifying concept of modern biology. It unites all areas of biology, from ecology to physiology to biochemistry and beyond. Without it, students are denied a framework to understand how these different areas are related and interdependent.

Completely, totally false.

I have a B.S. with honors in Biology, and an M.D., and I specialize in Clinical Microbiology.

Biology, like all sciences, is not a catalog of facts or concepts. Biology, like all sciences, is a system of testing facts or concepts.

Microevolution occurs every day, is trivial to test, and withstands any possible challenge.

Macroevolution (Darwinism) has never been demonstrated, is probably untestable, and is subject to many criticisms.

Screeds like this one from the Yale research fellow are expressions of religious belief, not science.