Interesting map here that goes along with this that also came from this site, entitled,
THE ENEMIES OF THE WORLD:
1 posted on
01/29/2004 6:39:37 PM PST by
Nagilum
To: Nagilum
Oil being a world market. I dont think it matters too much where the oil comes from. If Im wrong, let me know. Sorry to rain on your parade.
2 posted on
01/29/2004 6:48:44 PM PST by
Coroner
To: Nagilum
Waste of time. It doesn't matter where you buy it. It's a commodity. You would need every single person in the world to agree to do it in order for it to work. Otherwise, the price of Arab oil would decline slightly and then everyone would buy it, forcing the price back up.
3 posted on
01/29/2004 6:52:01 PM PST by
Rodney King
(No, we can't all just get along.)
To: Nagilum
Not a bad idea. I've been trying to buy at Exxon since they are US owned. We are flooded with BP and Shell here in central Ohio. I could switch to Sunoco and kill two birds I guess.
6 posted on
01/29/2004 6:56:54 PM PST by
Buck72
To: Nagilum
Well... Here in the state of Washington pretty much all of our gas comes from Anacortes, WA which is the southern terminal for the supertankers bringing oil down from the Alaska pipeline. Pretty much nomatter what you buy here, Exxon, Texaco, BP, Chevron... whatever... it's all an Alaska product.
7 posted on
01/29/2004 7:00:07 PM PST by
Ramius
To: Nagilum
I dont know how accurate it is. I know that in Portland, Texaco, Shell, Chevron, ARCO, and Tosco were forever making fuel swap deals. ARCO would run out of super and Texaco would push a shot up the pipeline to them. Texaco would run low on diesel and Tosco would send a shot down.
Sometimes if the pipeline was being used for something else theyd transfer it via barge and on some occasions theyd actually tell the drivers to pull all their unleaded (or whatever) out of the other companys loading facility. Sort of funny to see a big truck that says TEXACO down the side of it loading at the Chevron rack.
8 posted on
01/29/2004 7:01:15 PM PST by
Who dat?
To: Nagilum
It would seem to me to be more prudent to encourage drilling & production in the USA to lessen the need for imports. This is to promote self-sufficiency and independence.
10 posted on
01/29/2004 7:05:19 PM PST by
visualops
(Liberty is both the plan of Heaven for humanity, and the best hope for progress here on Earth-G.W.B.)
To: Nagilum
You may want to check your mutual funds, and see which companies you are supporting, too.
11 posted on
01/29/2004 7:05:23 PM PST by
Pan_Yans Wife
(He who has never hoped can never despair.)
To: Nagilum
Bookmark.
Thanks.
13 posted on
01/29/2004 7:05:53 PM PST by
Pharmboy
(History's greatest agent for freedom: The US Armed Forces)
To: Nagilum
bookmarked
17 posted on
01/29/2004 7:15:39 PM PST by
yonif
("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
To: Nagilum
IIRC... the U.S. actually gets only about 20 or 25% of its oil from the middle east as a whole. It's actually quite a bit more practical to get our imports from South America (Argentina, being the biggest I think). The balance is domestic.
The silly truth is that if we absolutely had to... we could get along without any ME oil at all. Whatever of it that is finding its way here gets so diluted and cross-sold among the distributors I'm not sure you could really isolate a good boycott target.
It is actually Europe that is totally dependent on ME oil, whatever portion they don't get from the North Sea.
19 posted on
01/29/2004 7:18:05 PM PST by
Ramius
To: Nagilum
I hate to burst your bubble but "swapping" is very common within the petrochemical industry. Say that Hess gets a little short of unleaded in your area but they're long in another area. It's not uncommon to call up any competitor and ask it to deliver supplies to their stations; in turn Hess then delivers supplies to that company's stations in the area in which they're long. But, if it makes you feel good, go ahead and do it.
21 posted on
01/29/2004 8:06:11 PM PST by
Chu Gary
(USN Intel guy 1967 - 1970)
To: Nagilum
Please check out snopes.com beforw posting dubious email!!
URBAN LEGENDS
Wrong again. The DoE tracks oil imports by company each month, and although the raw data are a little hard to follow (fortunately, the DoE also provides an explanation of their symbols), for February 2002 the totals were as follows:
CITGO is a wholly-owned subsidiary of the national oil company of Venezuela, so naturally most of its crude oil comes from there. However, in February 2002 CITGO also imported from Middle Eastern countries in the following quantities:
Iraq: 1,342,000 barrels
Kuwait: 437,000 barrels
Conoco imports primarily from Mexico, Venezuela, and Canada, and not from Middle Eastern countries. However, they are planning to merge with Phillips, which does import from Middle Eastern countries (see below).
BP imports from a variety of oil-producing countries, but in February 2002 BP North America also imported from Middle Eastern countries in the following quantities:
Iraq: 470,000 barrels
Kuwait: 415,000 barrels
Saudi Arabia: 2,123,000 barrels
Algeria: 3,853,000 barrels
Phillips also imports from a variety of oil-producing countries, but in February 2002 Phillips imported from Middle Eastern countries in the following quantities:
Iraq: 717,000 barrels Saudi Arabia: 1,100,000 barrels
Sinclair imports from Canada, not the Middle East.
Sunoco imports primarily from Canada, Angola, and Nigeria, not Middle Eastern countries.
23 posted on
01/29/2004 10:07:51 PM PST by
endthematrix
(To enter my lane you must use your turn signal!)
To: Nagilum
Re: Enemies of the world. You must know more than those who choose to deal with them. Why would anybody choose to? Cheap and necessary energy, maybe? Please, you maybe more righteous by wanting to purchase alternate forms energy but it is the US Government who has staked it's claim to foreign sources of oil, however don;t fool yourself as to the reasons why.
24 posted on
01/29/2004 10:17:08 PM PST by
endthematrix
(To enter my lane you must use your turn signal!)
To: Nagilum
I hate to rain on your parade too, however oil and gas, once refined, are traded indiscriminently practically up to the consumer's gas pump.
Part of the modern distribution network, as far as I know, is for each region of the country to just have one tank farm (you don't see separate tank farms for each brand of gas) for central distribution of standard gasoline formulations. In the brand's truck (correct me if I'm wrong someone) dyes and other unique additives are put in, setting each brand's gasoline apart....yet all share the same basic gas.
Buying from those oil companies who don't buy Arab crude oil is fine....and you'll help their profitability, however they got their gas from the same supplier as everyone else, and depending on where you are, it may be from Arab countries it may not be--oil doesn't have a religion or culture anyway, oil is oil.
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