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AS KERRY EMERGES, SO DOES CONCERN THAT AS PRESIDENT HE MAY BE DENIED COMMUNION
Spirit Daily ^ | 1-29-04

Posted on 01/29/2004 6:30:44 AM PST by cpforlife.org

The emergence of Senator John Kerry as a presidential candidate raises crucial questions about how bishops may react, seeing that he presents himself both as a staunchly pro-choice politician and as a practicing Catholic. The issue is of immediate moment, for it is a time when bishops across the United States -- including on Kerry's home turf of Boston -- have been issuing statements or even canonical declarations warning those who favor abortion to abstain from the Eucharist.

Kerry represents Massachusetts in the U.S. Senate and hails from Boston. He has seized control of the Democratic primaries -- at least for the moment -- and professes to paid heed to his religion. "I am a believing and practicing Catholic, married to another believing and practicing Catholic," he has been quoted as saying.

But only a week ago, newly-installed Boston Archbishop Sean O'Malley struck out against pro-choicers like Kerry, telling a Catholic website called LifeSiteNews.com, "These politicians should know that if they're not voting correctly on these life issues that they shouldn't dare come to Communion."

Those words appear at great odds with Kerry's voting record and may put him on a collision course with the Church, should he ever assume control of the Oval Office. In fact Kerry even opposes a ban on partial-birth abortion. According to his campaign website: "John Kerry believes that women have the right to control their own bodies, their own lives, and their own destinies. He believes that the Constitution protects their right to choose and to make their own decisions in consultation with their doctor, their conscience, and their God. He will defend this right as President. He recently announced he will support only pro-choice judges to the Supreme Court. Kerry also believes that we should promote family planning and health plans should assure women contraceptive coverage.

These positions are the perfect opposite of the Church's, and if elected his standing as a "practicing" Catholic could generate significant -- and perhaps even monumental controversy -- leaving open the possibility that America's second Catholic President could become the first to be prohibited from receiving Holy Communion, the Church's defining sacrament.

Just last November Archbishop Raymond L. Burke -- now in St. Louis but at the time bishop of LaCrosse, Wisconsin -- issued a canonical notification prohibiting the Eucharist for pro-choice lawmakers.

"Catholic legislators who are members of the faithful of the Diocese of La Crosse and who continue to support procured abortion or euthanasia may not present themselves to receive Holy Communion," said the notification. "They are not to be admitted to Holy Communion, should they present themselves, until such time as they publicly renounce their support of these most unjust practices." The document repeated the Vatican's teaching that Catholics involved in lawmaking have a "grave and clear obligation to oppose" any measure that is an attack on human life. "For them, as for every Catholic, it is impossible to promote such laws or to vote for them," it says.

This was followed by a statement by New Orleans Archbishop Alfred C. Hughes -- who less than two weeks ago said that "the Louisiana bishops are sending a copy of this document to each of our elected Catholic public officials in Baton Rouge and Washington. When Catholic officials openly support the taking of human life in abortion, euthanasia or the destruction of human embryos, they are no longer faithful members in the Church and should not partake of Holy Communion. Moreover, citizens who promote this unjust taking of human life by their vote or support of such candidates share in responsibility for this grave evil."

The need is to pray for the potential leaders, as opposed to simple condemnation. Can John Kerry return to faithful Catholicism?


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; abortion; catholiclist; catholicpoliticians; christ; demoncrat; holocaust; kerry; truth
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To: Salvation
Are you saying he is a parasite? LOL!

No, no, no. What he is is a gigolo!

141 posted on 01/29/2004 9:34:39 AM PST by maryz
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To: Texas Jack
Dang, I will never live in Massachusetts. How did Kerry get elected?
142 posted on 01/29/2004 9:36:10 AM PST by hattend (Are we there, yet?)
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To: EggsAckley
I've studied the history of indulgences for years. And yes, I know that the Catholic sites disclaim the existence on indulgences. I happen to believe that indulgences are as rampant today as they were the day that Martin Luther nailed his theses on the door.

You clearly don't even know what an indulgence is.

How else could all these priests walk away scott free after molesting boys for so many years.

I give up. You tell us what this has to do with indulgences, particularly since the priests in question aren't dead, for the most part.

Hint: an indulgence is not a permit to commit a sin, any more than "time off for good behavior" in a federal prison is a license to go out and commit a crime.

143 posted on 01/29/2004 9:37:58 AM PST by Campion
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To: Campion
t was Abp. Fulton Sheen who said that Catholic parents who wanted their children to lose their faith should send them to a Catholic school. (He was speaking specifically about colleges, but the rot has spread since then.)

I suspect this has little relevance to the teaching of religion in Catholic schools in Ireland in the 1960s.

144 posted on 01/29/2004 9:40:10 AM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: Right Wing Professor
I suspect this has little relevance to the teaching of religion in Catholic schools in Ireland in the 1960s.

He was speaking in the 1960's. As I pointed out, he was specifically referring to Catholic colleges in the US, however.

The fact remains that you were misinformed.

145 posted on 01/29/2004 9:42:16 AM PST by Campion
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To: Campion; Right Wing Professor
I'm pretty sure that I learned that the refusal of one partner to consummate the marriage was grounds for an annulment -- likely at some times and places the most common one.
146 posted on 01/29/2004 9:43:17 AM PST by maryz
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To: cpforlife.org
Why isn't he denied communion now?
147 posted on 01/29/2004 9:45:06 AM PST by mystery-ak (Almighty God, Embrace with Your invincible armour our loved ones in all branches of the service.)
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To: maryz
I'm pretty sure that I learned that the refusal of one partner to consummate the marriage was grounds for an annulment

An unconsummated marriage can be dissolved by the Church, even if it is not found to be null.

However, the unilateral refusal of one spouse to consummate the marriage would certainly be grounds for a finding of nullity even if that were not the case.

148 posted on 01/29/2004 9:46:15 AM PST by Campion
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To: CAtholic Family Association
I have a question.

That Pope John Paul II, Supreme Pontiff of the Catholic Church take jurisdiction of this petition. Part 1 That Canon 1398 be changed to read: "A person who willfully enables an abortion or euthanization incurs a latae sententiae excommunication.[...]"

If a member of the Catholic Church rejects abortion but supports a law that “willfully enables” others to have one it is considered apostate. If he rejects false creeds (Islam for example) but supports a law that “willfully enables” others to practice said faith (the 1st Amendment) he is not considered apostate.

Why the double standard?

Isn’t it also a sin to “willfully enable” another to place other gods before the Lord? Why does the church turn a blind eye to this?

149 posted on 01/29/2004 9:49:39 AM PST by Gerfang (The fox knows many things. The hedgehog knows one true thing.)
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To: Salvation
Nice set of links...as expected, the Catholic liberals are are CINO (Catholic In Name Only)...why even 'practice' the faith if you're not willing to follow the doctrine ?
150 posted on 01/29/2004 9:51:07 AM PST by in the Arena (1st Lt. James W. Herrick, Jr., - MIA - Laos - 27 October 69 "Fire Fly 33")
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To: Campion
The fact remains that you were misinformed.

Nothing of the sort. I was referring to the practice of granting annulments, not the canon law. The Church in United States processes 60,000 annulments a year; that's 75% of all annulments worldwide, and up from 400 a year in 1968. Are you trying to tell me the way canon law is being applied is the same, from country to country, and from 1968 to the present?

If you think a man could have gotten a Church annulment in Ireland in the 1960's, after thirty years and lots of children, by claiming he'd entered the marriage intending to cheat, then let me politely inform you you don't know what you're talking about.

151 posted on 01/29/2004 9:58:41 AM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: An American In Dairyland
Now why would she object to that?

So does that mean that Kerry is divorced in the eyes of the Church?
152 posted on 01/29/2004 10:01:42 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: mystery-ak
"Why isn't he denied communion now?"

There is no good reason why.

Sadly, our Bishops have been negligent in following the Holy Father's many clear and repeated calls that this entire matter be settled once and for all.

The article, as well as others do give reason to have some new hope; as a few bishops have started to act on this.
153 posted on 01/29/2004 10:17:12 AM PST by cpforlife.org (The defense and promotion of LIFE is not the ministry of a few but the responsibility of ALL.)
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To: JohnnyZ
I went to Mass,many years as a half repentent sinner until a hunger for Communion with the Body and Blood caused me to repent,confess and come back to Christ,fully and entirely.

There were some other,acts of God and man, that were also involved but that was the principal one.

I think attending Mass and not receiving Communion forced me to consider my sins weekly. Sometimes "out of sight out of mind",can cause the loss of a soul.

Just my own personal experience and view.

154 posted on 01/29/2004 10:32:06 AM PST by saradippity
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To: Kieri
...if Jenny wants to dabble in politics she should STAY OUT OF THE CHURCH!

No, she should attend church - maybe some of it will sink in. But she should stay out of the line for communion.

155 posted on 01/29/2004 10:43:28 AM PST by T Minus Four
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To: Republican Red
Many others, including Jackie Kennedy Onasis were excommunicated for divorce.

People are not excommunicated for divorce. They excommunicate themselves when they remarry without obtaining an annulment first.

156 posted on 01/29/2004 10:48:19 AM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: John123
Again, how can a marriage that spawned two children be annulled?

There is a misunderstanding of what Catholic annulment is. The Church recognizes that a legal marriage took place. They require a legal divorce before the annulment process is considered. Children are therefore not illegitimate. Catholic annulments rule on the sacramental nature of the marriage. Two different things.

Note: you can get a legal annulment if the divorce occurs within the first year. Again, that's a different matter from the Church.

157 posted on 01/29/2004 10:55:00 AM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: 2nd amendment mama; A2J; Agitate; Alouette; Annie03; aposiopetic; attagirl; axel f; Balto_Boy; ...
ProLife Ping!

If anyone wants on or off my ProLife Ping List, please notify me here or by freepmail.

158 posted on 01/29/2004 10:55:53 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Pre-empt the third murder attempt-- Pray for Terry Schiavo!)
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To: cpforlife.org
AS KERRY EMERGES, SO DOES CONCERN THAT AS PRESIDENT HE MAY BE DENIED COMMUNION

Why would I be concerned about that? Sounds like a great idea to me!

:-)

159 posted on 01/29/2004 10:59:41 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Pre-empt the third murder attempt-- Pray for Terry Schiavo!)
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To: cpforlife.org
But only a week ago, newly-installed Boston Archbishop Sean O'Malley struck out against pro-choicers like Kerry, telling a Catholic website called LifeSiteNews.com, "These politicians should know that if they're not voting correctly on these life issues that they shouldn't dare come to Communion."

Come on Bishop, let's formalize this. Inaction scandalizes the Church.

160 posted on 01/29/2004 11:08:05 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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