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NASA Says Second Mars Rover Experiencing Problems
Reuters ^ | January 27, 2004 | Steve Gorman

Posted on 01/28/2004 12:57:03 AM PST by prisoner6

NASA Says Second Mars Rover Experiencing Problems

Tue January 27, 2004 06:47 PM ET



By Steve Gorman

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - As NASA scientists pored over striking new photos from Mars revealing finely layered formations of ancient bedrock, engineers labored on Tuesday to diagnose problems with two robotic rovers on opposite sides of the Red Planet.

Besides a serious malfunction that has idled the first rover, Spirit, since last Wednesday, mission controllers at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory said they are now contending with a power drain on Spirit's newly arrived twin, Opportunity.

Mission manager Jim Erickson told reporters said the power loss appeared to be from one of the craft's heating units that keeps turning itself on and running overnight without receiving commands from NASA to do so.

While engineers do not believe the faulty thermostat will overheat the vehicle, the long-term consequences of the glitch and whether it can be fixed are not yet known, Erickson said.

"I'd like to have a little more information on what we're seeing from the vehicle before we make any judgments there," he said.

Otherwise, the rover was "in pretty good shape" as a new martian day, its fourth, dawned over Opportunity's landing site on a wide, flat plain known as the Meridiani Planum.

The area is of interest to scientists because it is believed to contain large deposits of an iron-bearing crystalline mineral called hematite, which on Earth usually forms in the presence of liquid water.

Both Opportunity and Spirit are equipped with a mobile laboratory of geologic tools designed to search for evidence that the barren martian surface was once wetter, and possibly more hospitable to life, than it is now.

ROCK LAYERS

The first three-dimensional, panoramic images beamed back from Opportunity showed an intriguing outcrop of exposed bedrock "in exquisite detail," said principal science investigator Steve Squyres of Cornell University.

The nearby bedrock formation, the first ever found on Mars, consists of fine layers, some no thicker than a finger, that are believed to be billions of years old, Squyres said. Also visible is a feature believed to be cross-bedding, in which the mineral layers lie at angles to the horizontal stack, which can form from cyclical patterns of sediments that build up, then partially erode away, then rebuild again.

"It's going to be fascinating beyond words to get up close" to the bedrock, he said. "We're going to drive up to this rock outcropping and beat on it with everything we've got."

Andrew Knoll, a science team leader from Harvard University, said the rock layers either originated from ash spewed by volcanic activity early in Mars' history, or from sediments deposited there by wind or water. Closer examination should answer those questions, he said.

Opportunity's "high-gain" antenna, the one used for high-speed communications directly with Earth, has been moved into position, and engineers plan to lift the folded rover off its belly during the day and stretch out its front wheels, Erickson said.

He added that Opportunity was probably still a week away from being ready to roll off its landing platform and onto the floor of the small, shallow crater where the spacecraft is resting. Spirit rolled onto the martian surface 12 days after it landed Jan. 3 in a giant, Connecticut-sized basin known as Gusev Crater, half a planet away.

SPIRIT STILL IDLE

JPL controllers say they are proceeding cautiously with Opportunity in hopes of avoiding a repeat of the difficulties that have left Spirit crippled since last week.

Mission manager Jennifer Trosper said engineers are exploring several scenarios for what may have caused problems with Spirit's onboard computer memory, including an overload from the buildup of data files during the spacecraft's eight-month voyage to Mars.

Another possibility is a burst of charged particles from a solar flare that could have bombarded the rover at a vulnerable point during its communications with Earth.

Project managers have said they hope to understand and overcome their problems with Spirit and return the rover to service in the next few weeks.


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KEYWORDS: mars; nasa; opportunity; rover; space; spirit
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Looks like the Little Green Martians have found this one too...

prisoner6

1 posted on 01/28/2004 12:57:03 AM PST by prisoner6
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To: prisoner6; KevinDavis; bonesmccoy; RightWhale
NO!!! we need more power, scotty!!
2 posted on 01/28/2004 12:58:15 AM PST by GeronL (Two kinds of people in this country: Makers and Takers........ which are you?)
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To: prisoner6
Looks like the Little Green Martians have found this one too...

Yep, I can see them turning the heater switch on and off, and then laughing while the little humans try and figure out what happened. Bush just HAD to go to Roswell. The Martians are pissed.

3 posted on 01/28/2004 1:00:12 AM PST by montag813
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To: prisoner6
Can we do anything right any more?
4 posted on 01/28/2004 1:35:51 AM PST by RLK
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To: prisoner6
Failure is not an option.
5 posted on 01/28/2004 1:41:10 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: prisoner6
without receiving commands from NASA to do so

We need to start sending a couple of techs along on these robot missions.

6 posted on 01/28/2004 1:47:17 AM PST by Flyer (LOST - Tag line, disappeared 01/21/04, black Times New Roman, 73 characters - Reward!)
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To: prisoner6
Check the thermostat's configuration (if it has one). If it's a goner, disable the thermostat, run the heater in manual mode, and make the on/off decision in software. I'm no rocket scientist, but I hope someone who is thought of this scenario.
7 posted on 01/28/2004 2:00:03 AM PST by Jack of all Trades
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To: prisoner6
I was just on JPL web site and they received 2 new pictures from spirit overnight.

The remark was "spirit is on the mend".
8 posted on 01/28/2004 2:22:28 AM PST by Lokibob (All typos and spelling errors are mine and copyrighted!!!!)
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To: Jack of all Trades
...disable the thermostat, run the heater in manual mode...

I used to do that with my Fine French < /sarcasm > automobiles...ALL of them, each and every one. Watch the temp guage, when it gets hot, flip a switch.

prisoner6

9 posted on 01/28/2004 2:26:53 AM PST by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts hold the country together as the loose screws of the left fall out!)
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To: prisoner6
That's a perfect analogy, and the system effects will be the same for opportunity. The software would have to pay extra attention to the temperature reading, and the actual temperature might be prone to over and under shoots. That's a better solution than letting the rover turn into a door stop.

IMHO, this is taking a possible solution too far given the information released so far. Some basic investigation is required. For now, let's just hope that "power Draw" was included in the risk factor during the FMEAs. A little flexibility and redundancy may be needed to work around this situation.
10 posted on 01/28/2004 2:52:55 AM PST by Jack of all Trades
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To: prisoner6
"one of the craft's heating units that keeps turning itself on and running overnight without receiving commands from NASA to do so."

Maybe it gets cold at night.
11 posted on 01/28/2004 3:09:54 AM PST by Hon
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To: RLK
Can we do anything right any more?

Given the endeavor of getting these complex rovers down safely on a shoestring budget....damn good work for just a heater problem and a software bug.

If anything, it gives a clear example of an advantage of manned exploration - to have onsite service and repair.

12 posted on 01/28/2004 4:28:59 AM PST by Ophiucus
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If anything, it gives a clear example of an advantage of manned exploration - to have onsite service and repair.

Tell that to the Columbia's crew.

13 posted on 01/28/2004 4:32:25 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: prisoner6
It must have been that 35 cent thermostat switch they bought at Home Depot.
14 posted on 01/28/2004 5:03:03 AM PST by marvlus
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To: mewzilla
Tell that to the Columbia's crew

Pathetic and cheap comment. Nice.

15 posted on 01/28/2004 5:05:21 AM PST by Ophiucus
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To: Jack of all Trades
Your idea, although quite logical, is too simplistic. Yep, it would likely work, but the techs at JPL involved in this project just have to make it a complicated solution - that way they preserve their value to the project. If it's as simple as your solution, who needs all those high-paid programmers?
19 posted on 01/28/2004 5:39:47 AM PST by TheBattman (Miserable failure = http://www.michaelmoore.com)
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