Who says George W. Bush has done "nothing" for conservatives?

WhiteHouse.gov; various news sources ^ | 1/27/04

[Wolfstar]

[ED. NOTE: In the last few months, FReeper Southack put together a list of Bush administration achievements over its first three years in office, and tirelessly posted it whenever an opportunity presented itself. Southack gave me permission to take that list, organize it by topics, and enhance it with further research from whitehouse.gov and other sources. This thread is posted in gratitude to and in honor of Southack.]

Abortion & Traditional Values

1. Banned Partial Birth Abortion — by far the most significant roll-back of abortion on demand since Roe v. Wade.
   
2. Reversed Clinton's move to strike Reagan's anti-abortion Mexico Policy.
   
3. By Executive Order (EO), reversed Clinton's policy of not requiring parental consent for abortions under the Medical Privacy Act.
   
4. By EO, prohibited federal funds for international family planning groups that provide abortions and related services.
   
5. Upheld the ban on abortions at military hospitals.
   
6. Made $33 million available for abstinence education programs in 2004.
7. Supports the Defense of Marriage Act — and a Constitutional amendment saying marriage is between one man and one woman.
8. Requires states to conduct criminal background checks on prospective foster and adoptive parents.
9. Requires districts to let students transfer out of dangerous schools.
10. Requires schools to have a zero-tolerance policy for classroom disruption (reintroducing discipline into classrooms).
11. Signed the Teacher Protection Act, which protects teachers from lawsuits related to student discipline.
12. Expanded the role of faith-based and community organizations in after-school programs.
    

Budget, Taxes & Economy

1. Signed two income tax cuts, one of which was the largest dollar-value tax cut in world history.
2. Supports permanent elimination of the death tax.
   
3. Turned around an inherited economy that was in recession, and deeply shocked as a result of the 9/11 attacks.
4. Is seeking legislation to amend the Constitution to give the president line-item veto authority.
5. In process of permanently eliminating IRS marriage penalty.
   
6. Increased small business incentives to expand and to hire new people.
   
7. Initiated discussion on privatizing Social Security and individual investment accounts.
   
8. Killed Clinton's "ergonomic" rules that OSHA was about to implement; rules would have shut down every home business in America.
   
9. Passed tough new laws to hold corporate criminals to account as a result of corporate scandals.
   
10. Reduced taxes on dividends and capital gains.
    
11. Signed trade promotion authority.
    
12. Reduced and is working to ultimately eliminate the estate tax for family farms and ranches.
13. Fight Europe's ban on importing biotech crops from the United States.
14. Exempt food from unilateral trade sanctions and embargoes.
15. Provided $20 million to states to help people with disabilities work from home.
16. Created a fund to encourage technologies that help the disabled.
17. Increased the annual contribution limit on Education IRA's from $500 to $2,000 per child.
18. Make permanent the $5,000 adoption tax credit and provide $1 billion over five years to increase the credit to $10,000.
19. Grant a complete tax exemption for prepaid or college tuition savings plans.
20. Reduced H1B visas from a high of 195,000 per year to 66,000 per year.

Character & Conduct as President

1. Changed the tone in the White House, restoring HONOR and DIGNITY to the presidency.
2. Has reintroduced the mention of God and faith into public discourse.
3. Handled himself with enormous courage, dignity, grace, determination, and leadership in the aftermath of the September 11, 2001 hijackings and anthrax attacks. He almost single-handedly held this country together during those searing days:

• Just three days after the attacks, in his address at the National Cathedral, the President reassured the nation when he said: "War has been waged against us by stealth and deceit and murder. This nation is peaceful, but fierce when stirred to anger. This conflict was begun on the timing and terms of others. It will end in a way, and at an hour, of our choosing."
  
  
• On Friday, September 14, 2001, President Bush visited Ground Zero. Standing on a crushed and burned fire engine atop the smoldering pile at Ground Zero, he put his arm around a retired firefighter who had volunteered to help, and began speaking to the crowd. Rescue workers shouted that they could not hear him. Someone handed him a small American flag and bullhorn. The President spontaneously shouted: "I can hear you. The rest of the world hears you. And the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon." The crowd roared with cheers and chants of "USA! USA! USA!" Then he raised that American flag and rallied a nation:
  
  

Education & Employment Training

1. Signed the No Child Left Behind Act, delivering the most dramatic education reforms in a generation (challenging the soft bigotry of low expectations). The very liberal California Teachers union is currently running radio ads against the accountability provisions of this Act.
   
2. Announced "Jobs for the 21st Century," a comprehensive plan to better prepare workers for jobs in the new millennium by strengthening post-secondary education and job training, and by improving high school education.
3. Is working to provide vouchers to low-income students in persistently failing schools to help with costs of attending private schools. (Blocked in the Senate.)
4. Requires annual reading and math tests in grades three through eight.
5. Requires states to participate in the National Assessment of Education Progress, or an equivalent program, to establish a national benchmark for academic performance.
6. Requires school-by-school accountability report cards.
7. Established a $2.4 billion fund to help states implement teacher accountability systems.
8. Increased funding for the Troops-to-Teachers program, which recruits former military personnel to to become teachers.
   

Environment & Energy

1. Killed the Kyoto Global Warming Treaty.
2. Submitted a comprehensive Energy Plan (awaits Congressional action). The plan works to develop cleaner technology, produce more natural gas here at home, make America less dependent on foreign sources of energy, improve national grid, etc.
3. Established a $10 million grant program to promote private conservation initiatives.
4. Significantly eased field-testing controls of genetically engineered crops.
   
5. Changed parts of the Forestry Management Act to allow necessary cleanup of the national forests in order to reduce fire danger.
   
6. Part of national forests cleanup: Restricted judicial challenges (based on the Endangered Species Act and other challenges), and removed the need for an Environmental Impact Statement before removing fuels/logging to reduce fire danger.
   
7. Killed Clinton's CO2 rules that were choking off all of the electricity surplus to California.
   
8. Provided matching grants for state programs that help private landowners protect rare species.
   

Defense & Foreign Policy

1. Successfully executed two wars in the aftermath of 9/11/01: Afghanistan and Iraq. 50 million people who had lived under tyrannical regimes now live in freedom.
2. Saddam Hussein is now in prison. His two murderous sons are dead. All but a handful of the regime's senior members were killed or captured.
3. Leader by leader and member by member, al Qaida is being hunted down in dozens of countries around the world. Of the senior al Qaida leaders, operational managers, and key facilitators the U.S. Government has been tracking, nearly two-thirds have been taken into custody or killed. The detentions or deaths of senior al Qaida leaders, including Khalid Shaykh Muhammad, the mastermind of 9/11, and Muhammad Atef, Osama bin Laden's second-in-command until his death in late 2001, have been important in the War on Terror.
4. Disarmed Libya of its chemical, nuclear and biological WMD's without bribes or bloodshed.
   
5. Continues to execute the War On Terror, getting worldwide cooperation to track funds/terrorists. Has cut off much of the terrorists' funding, and captured or killed many key leaders of the al Qaeda network.
   
6. Initiated a comprehensive review of our military, which was completed just prior to 9/11/01, and which accurately reported that ASYMMETRICAL WARFARE capabilities were critical in the 21st Century.
   
7. Killed the old US/Soviet Union ABM Treaty that was preventing the U.S. from deploying our ABM defenses.
   
8. Has been one of the strongest, if not THE strongest friend Israel has ever hand in the U.S. presidency.
   
9. Part of the coalition for an Israeli/Palestinian "Roadmap to Peace," along with Great Britain, Russia and the EU.
   
10. Pushed through THREE raises for our military. Increased military pay by more than $1 billion a year.
    
11. Signed the LARGEST nuclear arms reduction in world history with Russia.
    
12. Started withdrawing our troops from Bosnia, and has announced withdrawal of our troops from Germany and the Korean DMZ.
    
13. Prohibited putting U.S. troops under U.N. command.
14. Paid back UN dues only in return for reforms and reduction of U.S. share of the costs.
15. Earmarked at least 20 percent of the Defense procurement budget for next-generation weaponry.
16. Increased defense research and development spending by at least $20 billion from fiscal 2002 to 2006.
17. Ordered a comprehensive review of military weapons and strategy.
18. Ordered a review of overseas deployments.
19. Ordered renovation of military housing. The military has already upgraded about 10 percent of its inventory and expects to modernize 76,000 additional homes this year.
20. Is working to tighten restrictions on military-technology exports.
21. Brought back our EP-3 intel plane and crew from China without any bribes or bloodshed.

Globalization & Internationalism

1. Challenged the United Nations to live up to their responsibilities and not become another League of Nations (in other words, showed the UN to be completely irrelevant).
   
2. Killed U.S. involvement in the International Criminal Court.
   
3. Told the United Nations we weren't interested in their plans for gun control (i.e., the International Ban on Small Arms Trafficking Treaty).*
4. The only President since the founding of the UN to essentially tell that organization it is irrelevant. He said: "The conduct of the Iraqi regime is a threat to the authority of the United Nations, and a threat to peace. Iraq has answered a decade of UN demands with a decade of defiance. All the world now faces a test, and the United Nations a difficult and defining moment. Are Security Council resolutions to be honored and enforced, or cast aside without consequence? Will the United Nations serve the purpose of its founding, or will it be irrelevant?" We all know the outcome and the answer.
5. Told the Congress and the world, "America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our country."
   

Government Reform

1. Improved government efficiency by putting hundreds of thousands of jobs put up for bid. This weakens public-sector unions and cuts undeserved pay raises.
   
2. Initiated review of all federal agencies with the goal of eliminating federal jobs (completed September 2003) in an effort to reduce the size of the federal government while increasing private sector jobs.
   
3. Led the most extensive reorganization the Federal bureaucracy in over 50 years: After 9/11, condensed 20+ overlapping agencies and their intelligence sectors into one agency, the Department of Homeland Security.*
4. Ordered each agency to draft a five-year plan to restructure itself, with fewer managers.
5. Converted federal service contracts to performance-based contracts wherever possible so that the contractor has measurable performance goals.
   

Health

1. Strengthen the National Health Service Corps to put more physicians in the neediest areas, and make its scholarship funds tax-free.
2. Double the research budget of the National Institutes of Health.
3. Signed Medicare Reform, which includes:

• A 10-year privatization option.
• Prescription drug benefits: Prior to this reform, Medicare paid for extended hospital stays for ulcer surgery, for example, at a cost of about $28,000 per patient. Yet Medicare would not pay for the drugs that eliminate the cause of most ulcers, drugs that cost about $500 a year. Now, drug coverage under Medicare will allow seniors to replace more expensive surgeries and hospitalizations with less expensive prescription medicine.
  
• More health care choices: As President Bush stated, "…when seniors have the ability to make choices, health care plans within Medicare will have to compete for their business by offering higher quality service [at lower cost]. For the seniors of America, more choices and more control will mean better health care. These are the kinds of health care options we give to the members of Congress and federal employees. What's good for members of Congress is also good for seniors.
  
• New Health Savings Accounts: Effective January 1, 2004, Americans can set aside up to $4,500 every year, tax free, to save for medical expenses. Depending on your tax bracket, that means you'll save between 10 to 35 percent on any costs covered by money in your account. Every year, the money not spent would stay in the account and gain interest tax-free, just like an IRA. These accounts will be good for small business owners, and employees. More businesses can focus on covering workers for major medical problems, such as hospitalization for an injury or illness. At the same time, employees and their families will use these accounts to cover doctors visits, or lab tests, or other smaller costs. Some employers will contribute to employee health accounts. This will help more American families get the health care they need at the price they can afford.
  

Homeland Security, Border Enforcement & Immigration

1. *See Government Reform above. Under President Bush's leadership, America has made an unprecedented commitment to homeland security.
2. Has CONSTRUCTION in process on the first 10 ABM silos in Alaska so that America will have a defense against North Korean nukes. Has ordered national and theater ballistic missile defenses to be deployed by 2004.
   
3. Announced a 9.7% increase in government-wide homeland security funding in his FY 2005 budget, nearly tripling the FY 2001 levels (excluding the Department of Defense and Project BioShield).
4. Before DHS was created, there were inspectors from three different agencies of the Federal Government and Border Patrol officers protecting our borders. Through DHS, U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) now consolidates all border activities into a single agency to create "one face at the border." This not only better secures the borders of the United States, but it also eliminates many of the inefficiencies that occurred under the old system. With over 18,000 CBP inspectors and 11,000 Border Patrol agents, CBP has 29,000 uniformed officers on our borders.
5. The Border Patrol is continuing installation of monitoring devices along the borders to detect illegal activity.
   
6. Launched Operation Tarmac to investigate businesses and workers in the secure areas of domestic airports and ensure immigration law compliance. Since 9/11, DHS has audited 3,640 businesses, examined 259,037 employee records, arrested 1,030 unauthorized workers, and participated in the criminal indictment of 774 individuals.
7. Since September 11, 2001, the Coast Guard has conducted more than 124,000 port security patrols, 13,000 air patrols, boarded more than 92,000 vessels, interdicted over 14,000 individuals attempting to enter the United States illegally, and created and maintained more than 90 Maritime Security Zones.
   
8. Announced the Student and Exchange Visitor Information System (SEVIS), an internet-based system that is improving America's ability to track and monitor foreign students and exchange visitors. Over 870,000 students are registered in SEVIS. Of 285 completed field investigations, 71 aliens were arrested.
   
9. This week, the US-VISIT program began to digitally collect biometric identifiers to record the entry and exit of aliens who travel into the U.S on a visa. Together with the standard information, this new program will confirm compliance with visa and immigration policies.
10. Eliminated INS bureaucratic redundancies and lack of accountability.
11. Split the Immigration and Naturalization Service into two agencies: one to protect the border and interior, the other to deal with naturalization.
12. Signed the workplace verification bill to prevent hiring of illegal aliens.
13. Established a six-month deadline for processing immigration applications.
14. Information regarding nearly 100% of all containerized cargo is carefully screened by DHS before it arrives in the United States. Higher risk shipments are physically inspected for terrorist weapons and contraband prior to being released from the port of entry. Advanced technologies are being deployed to identify warning signs of chemical, biological, or radiological attacks. Since September 11, 2001, hundreds of thousands of first responders across America have been trained to recognize and respond to the effects of a WMD attack.

Judiciary & Tort Reform

1. Is urging federal liability reform to eliminate frivolous lawsuits.
   
2. Killed the liberal ABA's unconstitutional role in vetting federal judges. The Senate is supposed to advise and consent, not the ABA.
   
3. Is nominating strong, conservative judges to the judiciary.
   
4. Supports class action reform bill which limits lawyer fees so that more settlement money goes to victims.

Politics

1. His leadership resulted in Republican gains in the House and Senate, solidifying Republican control of both houses of Congress and the presidency.
   
2. Signed an EO enforcing the Supreme Court's Beck decision regarding union dues being used for political campaigns against individual's wishes.
   

Second Amendment

1. Ordered Attorney General Ashcroft to formally notify the Supreme Court that the OFFICIAL U.S. government position on the 2nd Amendment is that it supports INDIVIDUAL rights to own firearms, and is NOT a Leftist-imagined "collective" right.
2. Signed TWO bills into law that arm our pilots with handguns in the cockpit.
   
3. Currently pushing for full immunity from lawsuits for our national gun manufacturers.
   
4. *See Globalization & Internationalism.
   

Traditional Values, Compassion & Volunteerism

1. Endorses and promotes "The Responsibility Era." President Bush often speaks of the necessity of personal responsibility and civic volunteerism. He said, "In a compassionate society, people respect one another and take responsibility for the decisions they make in life. My hope is to change the culture from one that has said, if it feels good, do it; if you've got a problem, blame somebody else — to one in which every single American understands that he or she is responsible for the decisions that you make; you're responsible for loving your children with all your heart and all your soul; you're responsible for being involved with the quality of the education of your children; you're responsible for making sure the community in which you live is safe; you're responsible for loving your neighbor, just like you would like to be loved yourself."
   
2. Started the USA Freedom Corps, the most comprehensive clearinghouse of volunteer opportunities ever offered. For the first time in history, Americans can enter geographic information about where they want to get involved, such as state or zip code, as well as areas of interest ranging from education to the environment, and they can access volunteer opportunities offered by more than 50,000 organizations across the country and around the world.
   
3. Established the The White House Office and the Centers for the Faith-Based and Community Initiative — located in seven Federal agencies. The faith-based initiative supports the essential work of these important organizations. The goal is to make sure that grassroots leaders can compete on an equal footing for federal dollars, receive greater private support, and face fewer bureaucratic barriers. Work focuses on at-risk youth, ex-offenders, the homeless and hungry, substance abusers, those with HIV/AIDS, and welfare-to-work families.
   
4. The White House released a guidebook fully describing the Administration's belief that faith-based groups have a Constitutionally-protected right to maintain their religious identity through hiring — even when Federal funds are involved.
5. Issued an EO implementing the Supreme Court's Olmstead ruling, which requires moving disabled people from institutions to community-based facilities when possible.
6. Increased funding for low-interest loan programs to help people with disabilities purchase devices to assist them.
7. Revised the Department of Housing and Urban Development's Section 8 rent subsidies to disabled people, permitting them to use up to a year's worth of vouchers to finance down payments on homes. HUD has started pilot programs in 11 states.
8. Committed US funds to purchase medicine for millions of men, women and children now suffering with AIDS in Africa.
   
9. Heeding the words of our own Declaration of Independence, the president laid out the non-negotiable demands of human dignity for all people everywhere. On January 29, 2002, he said, "No nation owns these aspirations, and no nation is exempt from them. We have no intention of imposing our culture. But America will always stand firm for the non-negotiable demands of human dignity." As stated by the President, they are a virtual manifesto of conservative principles:

• Equal Justice
  
• Freedom of Speech
  
• Limited Government Power
  
• Private Property Rights
  
• Religious Tolerance
  
• Respect for Women
  
• Rule of Law

[Edit35]

"I'm already laughing because you included "Medicare Reform" as an accomplishment. That's just denial of reality."

I suppose you think Medicare should not be reformed, and simply left the way it is?

[longtermmemmory]

One interesting thing I learned in candidate school. Many campaigns are focusing on SuperVoters. People who vote each and every time, even on odd time elections. They view them as a guaranteed target which does not waste campaign materials.

How many conservatives are these SuperVoters? Democrats?

We have all heard of broken glass republicans, but do we have numbers. (look at us we a paying attention months out and pudits say people don't focus until two weeks out.)

[Delphinium]

Bush needs us all.

You must have a personal problem with those to the right.

Sorry, you find me so offensive. I bet somewhere we would agree. Thats why I asked what issues brought you to the Republican party?

[Sabertooth]

See, I don't have a problem with people criticizing Bush. I don't agree with all of this policies or decisions either. My ONLY problem is when conservatives here advocate voting for someone other than Bush.

Seen this?

DENVER - Twenty-three congressmen warned President Bush in a letter yesterday that he risks an election-year backlash from Republican voters if he continues to press his guest-worker proposal.      

The Republican lawmakers said their congressional offices have received a flood of angry letters, e-mails and phone calls from Republican constituents vowing that they will refuse to vote for the president if his program is approved.      

"Since the President's speech, our offices have been inundated with calls from dismayed constituents expressing vehement opposition to the Administration's proposal," said the letter signed by several members of the House Immigration Reform Caucus.      

"It is a matter of great concern to us that these constituents politically active American citizens are so disillusioned by the proposal that many of them will become disenchanted with not only the Administration, but with Congress as well," said the letter, which also was sent to House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert, Illinois Republican. "If we do not listen to our constituents on this matter, our influence and effectiveness in Congress could be jeopardized."      

Most of the congressmen signing are conservatives who represent Western, Southern and Midwestern states, including California, Idaho, Texas, Tennessee and Kansas.      

The White House plan, released earlier this month, would give guest-worker status to undocumented aliens who have come to the United States to work. An estimated 8 million to 12 million immigrants live here illegally.      

But critics say the plan would give de facto amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants, exacerbating the social ills faced by many border states while reducing respect for immigration laws.     

 White House spokeswoman Claire Buchan said yesterday that she hadn't yet seen the letter, but stressed the importance of the president's proposal in controlling illegal immigration.     

"The president's temporary-worker program is a well thought-out aimed at improving border security, meeting our economic needs and being compassionate to those trying to improve their situation for themselves and their families," Miss Buchan said. "He looks forward to working with Congress to pass this legislation."
Republicans warn Bush on immigration policy
Washington Times - 1/28/04 - Valerie Richardson

Who's the problem here?

That I remember because to me it is the same as if a Democrat or Green came here advocating a vote for Kerry.

What do you call a politician who stubbornly squanders votes away, which is the same as giving them to Kerry?

[Texasforever]

How many conservatives are these SuperVoters? Democrats?

What has been shown is that the ideologues in both parties are heavily represented in the primaries. If they get the nominee they want they then vote for him in the general election, if the don't get the one the want they either stay home or go for an alternative outside the party. The classic case right now are the Dean supporters ready to jump ship and go Green again.

[jim35]

Thank you for that. I try not to be baited by these Bush-haters but it's so hard not to. Most, although not all of these folks are Californians who have more or less accepted these illegals for decades. Now suddenly it's a crisis and we should all be freaking out and make this our number one national priority. I'll bet if Bush did make some major proposal to get rid of the Mexicans, these same folks would scream that he's making more big government, or rewriting the constitution, and/or spending too much money. Much better to sit around and support some loser who doesn't have a chance in Hades of winning. That leaves them free to armchair quarterback without criticism, since we will never know what their guy would have done.

[Texasforever]

You must have a personal problem with those to the right.

Nope I am on the right. I am just not on the populist right.

[Joe Hadenuf]

Why do you pretend California just now, with Bush, has a problem with illegals??

Just now? I'm the one that was saying this epic crisis has been going on for years, since before Bush's Dad was president. He did nothing too. Check my history.

Where has your concern been all these years before now? Spare me! I lived in L.A. for three years, 1970-1973. It was over-run with Mexicans back then, big time, as was all of Southern California, and you know it!

Well you obviously don't have clue about California. I've been here all my life, a native. And no, the invasion didn't really start taking a dramatic turn until about the mid to late seventies. In 70 to 73 California had no real illegal alien problem. A few yes, but nothing like what happened from 1980 until now. So you are clearly wrong.

Suddenly it's your number one priority to get rid of the Mexicans? Right!

Wrong again. Without going into details, I was and have been very active in combating illegal alien crime and fraud for many years since 1984. Including being very active in prop 187.

And what about your local politicians, and your state government, what have they done about this grave concern of yours? Not much I'll bet.....

Our local politicians like Gray Davis and Barbara Boxer? Both from New York. We just hung one from a political rope for suggesting the illegals be provided with drivers licenses and spending like a drunken sailor. It was historic.

Your state has let the Mexicans run back and forth over the border for 30-40 years at least.

Wrong again, in 92 the people of the great state of California voted overwhelmingly for Prop 187. The federal government in concert with the state government burned our ballots and declared our free election illegal. Of course you weren't around then.

Now Bush is suppose to round them all up, send them all back, and build a wall around our country, guarded by our military, to fix a problem you Californians, have been ignoring or condonig for years!

Again, your very ignorant on this issue and California. Prop 187 says it all.

Excuse me if I'm not too sympathetic to your plight, nor is it high on my priority list, or that of most Americans.

No problem, as it's already escalating by leaps and bounds in your own backyard and state. It's nationwide and coast to coast. Set alarm and wake up.

Oh, and I will have no sympathy for you.

The greatest state of the greatest country on earth

[Delphinium]

Maybe I am misunderstanding you?

Tell me more clearly why you called me "bad"?

[fly_so_free]

"I don't care how close someone is to me philosophically, if they are voting against Bush, they are political oppostion"

It's difficult not to see it that way isn't it? I mean , I just veiw the threat of a democrat president as being so much worse than anything President Bush has done, or not done, it's hard to understand those who don't look at it that way too.

(sigh...)It's also hard to be ignored by someone you kind of liked, just because you disagreed with them- but I guess that's just the way it goes. Can't we all just get along? Guess not :-(

Anyway nite all

[longtermmemmory]

hmmm, which raises the Ralf nader question again.

I am trying to get an image on numbers. The consensus was that Republicans are more dedicated that democrats in general. This is why the democrats have had to rely on GOTV (get out the vote) operations.

This of course has lead to voting assisters who made sure union members did not have memory lapses and mistakenly vote wrong. It ticket off union bosses when the found they were taking people to the polls to vote for the other guy. (in certain areas they were expecting 100%. really)

The supervoter could be that base that Bush feels he has and it gives him the ability to breach nasty subjects.

Immigration has to be dealt with realisticly. It may not be a gem campaign topic, but Bush was elected to do a job first and run for re-election second. It may not be any plan on the table now, but at the very least we a talking about it.

[Joe Hadenuf]

Most, although not all of these folks are Californians who have more or less accepted these illegals for decades.

Wrong again. Your batting zero. Cal Prop 187. Read the history, educate yourself.

[Tamzee]

What do you call a politician who stubbornly squanders votes away, which is the same as giving them to Kerry?

I say he must have a damn good reason to be taking such a great political risk. I've given this a great deal of thought and it seems to me as if Bush's primary reason for taking such a gamble even despite the loud screams of protest is because he honestly feels it is important for national security. He has been fighting like crazy to have terrorist cells identified WITHIN our country and to keep the rest of Al Quaeda OUT. That will be more feasible if the amount that are unregistered here is cut down significantly and if the numbers trying to sneak in illegally are cut down also.

I can see points in the argument that his proposal is the best way to accomplish this in a cost-effective manner. If all the information he has at his fingertips leads him to believe this proposal is necessary for our country, I will look at it very carefully and I'll wait and see how details are fleshed out before I yank my support for his re-election.

[Texasforever]

Tell me more clearly why you called me "bad"?

Just a poor attempt at using street slang. I don't think you are bad at all.

[Tamzee]

Here is a good question, who does Osama support for 2004?

That's not only a good question, but it leads to another...

...who would Osama want conservatives to vote for in 2004, GOP or third-party?

[Joe Hadenuf]

Now suddenly it's a crisis and we should all be freaking out and make this our number one national priority.

Wrong again. It's now a national crisis due to the invasion going coast to coast, nationwide. Care to see articles from North Carolina to Idaho regarding the invasion of millions?

What, did you think they would all continue to come and stay in just Texas, AZ and California? Sorry it expanded slightly when you were sleeping.

[Joy Angela]

And, may I add...

We're going to see that

NEVER, EVER will Hillary and her companion, Bill
EVER sit in the White House again.

Once...shame on you.
Twice..shame on us.

Three Times..I'd like to see them try.

[fly_so_free]

"I don't care how close someone is to me philosophically, if they are voting against Bush, they are political opposition"

It's difficult not to see it that way isn't it? I mean , I just view the threat of a democrat president as being so much worse than anything President Bush has done, or not done, it's tough to understand those who don't look at it that way too.

(sigh...)It's also hard to end up being ignored by someone you sort of liked initially, just because you disagreed with them, but I guess that's just the way it goes. Can't we all just get along? Guess not :-(

Anyway nite all

[Delphinium]

Oh good, guess I didn't get it.

I need to loosen up a little.

I find myself being too uptight about these political issues.

[Joy Angela]

Bush is our Protector.

Hillary is the Destroyer.

God above...

Please stop Hillary.

In the name of Freedom for All

In the name of Liberty on Earth.