To: jstolzen
Yes, that is the implied meaning I gather.
However, I am going back to my original position and dropping all PC at this point.
IMHO al-Qaeda is under the direct control of Ayman al-Zawahiri, who in turn is under the direct control of the Russian intelligence services. al-Qaeda is thoroughly compromised by Russian intelligence. al-Qaeda is a proxy of Russia. When the US is attacked is will be in effect a Russian attack.
That's my story and I am sticking to it.
To: Sean Osborne Lomax
When the US is attacked is will be in effect a Russian attack. That's my story and I am sticking to it.
So are Granny and I
6,135 posted on
02/04/2004 8:34:39 AM PST by
JustPiper
(D A M N I T O L Take 2 and the rest of the world can go to hell for up to 8 full hours)
To: Sean Osborne Lomax
So what happened to OBL, sold out by AQ?
Certainly our own CIA/NSA would know that about a certain AQ/Russian connection if it exists. WHat are they saying about the proxy angle or is that just beinf scoffed at?
6,138 posted on
02/04/2004 8:41:29 AM PST by
SCR1
To: Sean Osborne Lomax
Sean, I commend you for having the guts to say what you think.
So I'm going ask you if you wouldn't mind giving me your assessment of the Russian maneuvers coming up this month, the report that the number of subs in or near the Gulf of Mexico (2 Russian and1 Chinese), the West Coast and East Coast have increased as of late, the fact that we seem to be in a hurry all of a sudden to expedite the deployment of our missile defense system and the fact that China just announced huge expenditures for their Civil Defense, including fallout shelters?
Also, are you familiar with the Project For The New american Century? If so, what's your take on it as perhaps being part of the reason for our tensions with Europe as well as the apparent escalation of tensions globally? If not, I suggest you check it out when you have the time.
Thanks
6,139 posted on
02/04/2004 8:45:29 AM PST by
milkncookies
(When the pin is pulled, Mr. Grenade is not your friend.)
To: Sean Osborne Lomax; All
IMHO al-Qaeda is under the direct control of Ayman al-Zawahiri, who in turn is under the direct control of the Russian intelligence services. al-Qaeda is thoroughly compromised by Russian intelligence. al-Qaeda is a proxy of Russia. When the US is attacked is will be in effect a Russian attack. It seems the "Hunt for Red October" continues.
Here is my approved liner note for this novel:
Gripping! What a read. Tom Clancy himself would be impressed. Finally, the "Empire" strikes back.
To: Sean Osborne Lomax
I definately agree re: AQ being a Russian proxy.
Goes back to Nynquist's stories about what Soviet General Lebed said.."WHEN the US is attacked with a suitcase nuclear weapon, it will be blamed on 'Arab terrorists'. Don't believe it. It will be Russian Spetsnaz [sp - Secret Service]".
Supposedly, they would go for our satellite uplink stations first, to 'blind' the US to ICBM launches. This matches EOM's claim that we will be "blind" after the attack.
The only thing we can hope is that W & company have warned Putin and his gang thoroughly, and that we are "on" to what's happening (assuming you and I are correct in our assumptions).
I also assume that if we've thought of this angle, that the USG is also all over it. Which makes me feel "somewhat" better - although I'm pretty concerned about the upcoming Russian nuclear manuevers (supposedly the largest in > 20 years?). One has to wonder if that's timed to coincide with a major attack in the US...just as the Rusky bombers are airborne..hmmmmmm..
I do have to say that I am pretty amazed that we didn't see any major attack "between the Eids", as promised directly by AQ (in the "break the back, change the order of things" threat that one of the AQ leaders actually did make - I forget where, but it was not on a message board but an actual interview).
6,145 posted on
02/04/2004 9:04:59 AM PST by
jstolzen
(All it takes for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing - Edmund Burke)
To: Sean Osborne Lomax
"al-Qaeda is under the direct control of Ayman al-Zawahiri, who in turn is under the direct control of the Russian intelligence services"
I find this interesting because al-Zawahiri was in the US in Northern California in 1995 visiting various mosques and Sacramento now has 30,000 very recent Russian immigrants.
We had an unpleasant run in with some of these Russian "youths" while camping at Yosemite last year. They had a Russian flag at their campsite and were wearing CCCP sweatshirts.
To: Sean Osborne Lomax
When your right...you're right!
To: Sean Osborne Lomax
Huh? You sound like my husband. He thinks this is just the cold war redux. They had to find another way to fight us, and here it is.
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