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Bush loses in Iowa
WND ^ | 1-21-04 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 01/20/2004 10:41:23 PM PST by JustPiper

The big loser in the Democratic presidential caucuses in Iowa wasn't Howard Dean. It wasn't Dick Gephardt. It wasn't even Al Sharpton who managed to attract about .5 percent of the vote.

The big loser was George W. Bush.

Only one thing can explain the bizarre positions taken by the White House before this week – an overconfidence that President Bush would be facing Howard Dean in his re-election bid this November. Karl Rove's polling must have made the president's political advisers so cocky about the race that they felt invulnerable.

What else could explain the president doing the following:

proposing a politically unpopular amnesty program for illegal aliens;

raising spending on domestic programs by bigger percentages than any of his predecessors, including Democrats;

proposing a vague manned mission to Mars without providing even the least compelling reasons, goals and objectives?

Bush has made many other mistakes in his term, but these whoppers are very recent gaffes made leading up to an election year.

Iowa should provide a wakeup call.

Instead of facing an angry Democrat out of touch with mainstream American values and temperament, Bush may well be facing a seasoned, smooth, mature political pro in John Kerry.

I wonder if he is up to that challenge.

How about a Kerry-Edwards ticket?

I believe if the election took place today, that ticket would have an excellent chance of beating Bush.

I say this as a dispassionate observer, a political analyst. I will not vote for either Bush or Kerry, or any other Democrat seeking the nomination.

But I think it's worth noting we are witnessing the self-destruction of a president – much like his own father self-destructed politically when he broke his "read my lips" pledge.

The latest polls show Bush in a tight race for re-election even before it's clear who his opponent might be.

As a result, Bush finds himself in a statistical dead heat with the opposition nine months before the election. When matched against an unknown Democratic presidential candidate, Bush squeaks out a 48 percent to 46 percent victory. On the question of who is most trusted to handle the nation's major problems, Bush is virtually even with Democrats, ahead 45 percent to 44 percent – down from an 18-point advantage Bush enjoyed nine months ago.

Americans think the Democrats would do a better job on domestic issues – the economy, prescription drugs for the elderly, health insurance, Medicare, the budget deficit, immigration, even taxes.

And why shouldn't they?

Here's the way this presidential race is shaping up: Bush will propose spending $18 billion fighting AIDS in other countries. The Democrat will up the ante to $25 billion.

Bush will propose spending 10 percent more on domestic giveaway programs. The Democrat will up the ante to 20 percent.

If it is conceded that more spending is good, a Republican will lose every single time.

And that's just what Bush has conceded with his phony, so-called "compassionate conservatism," that is really no more than old-fashioned tax-and-spend liberalism.

Bush gained no advantage with the public for his prescription-drug plan. He gained no ground with his bid to legalize millions of illegal aliens. He gained nothing from his attempt at inspiring Americans to join a new space program with a goal of a manned Mars landing. And his domestic spending increases, under attack by his own Republican base, have not served to win new independent or Democrat voters.

In fact, a CBS News poll showed similar drops for Bush support – notably over his plans on immigration.

If Bush were deliberately throwing this election, he couldn't do a more masterful job of losing votes, breaking bonds with his constituency and losing touch with his base.

If ever there was a time for a third party to emerge with some alternative ideas, 2004 is it.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; constitutionparty; farah; gwb2004; iowa; josephfarah; mars; mojoashonasecret; presidentbush; rove; spending; thirdparty
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To: onyx
LOL Yep. I'm not exactly rich, but I got a tax cut, as did 92 million other tax payers in the low and middle class did. Hell, even my rabid grandmother was happy to get one, and she didn't vote for the guy. LOL
221 posted on 01/21/2004 1:52:02 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (All Our Base Belong To Dubya)
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To: A2J
"...I don't believe any conservative expects that Bush fall in line 100% of the time"

Gee, just on one issue "principled Conservatives" abandon him and say he's not being a "true Conservative"! LOL

222 posted on 01/21/2004 1:53:53 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (All Our Base Belong To Dubya)
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To: A2J
There are many points of disagreement I have with Bush. However, on the big 3, National security, economic policy and spending, he has a solid conservative record on all but spending. In other words the same record as Reagan. I am looking at a short 36 months which has had more world changing events shoved into it than most presidents don't face in 8 years and I see one hell of a good record to support.
223 posted on 01/21/2004 1:56:46 AM PST by Texasforever
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To: A2J
He has appointed conservative judges,he has signed the partial birth abortion bill,he called for socially conservative things tonight,sanctity of marriage,children taught abstinence,anti drugs,faith based initiatives,holding schools to standards to find the children not learning.

He cut taxes to get the economy going.Spending is a problem so he suggested no more than 4% dicretionary growth in spending or veto.He had a re cession,911,two wars, to deal with.I am hoping we can do better.
224 posted on 01/21/2004 1:59:00 AM PST by MEG33
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To: Texasforever
Ditto. I may disagree with him on some points, but I'm not going to ding him on the spending. He's having to satisfy everyone's cravings, yet the Democrats spent 4 decades doing the same s%^$( and they don't like it when some Republican steals their thunder. They're only mad because they're out of power and not getting the credit.
225 posted on 01/21/2004 2:00:04 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (All Our Base Belong To Dubya)
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To: Texasforever
Now there you go hurting my feelings.

Good.

226 posted on 01/21/2004 2:02:19 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Death is certain; little chance of success; what are we waiting for???)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Good.

You ain't the sharpest knife in the drawer are you. LOL That is the last third of your name to be confirmed.

227 posted on 01/21/2004 2:06:12 AM PST by Texasforever
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
The real question is, where are the high-profile Republicans, who should be speaking out about the President's mid term lurch towards liberaldom? Why have they been neutered? They seemed to be everywhere, before the last election.

They tend to be socially conservative and care about things like the budget and the borders and jobs when they need the votes of every-day conservatives. If they can win without us, they'll support corporate greed, everytime.

If the Republicans don't need to tend to their base for re-election, things nobody wants like non-citizens taking jobs will be ignored.

At this juncture, GWB is opting for supporting marriage to keep his religious right base in line. That's pretty sly, since civil unions will be settled in the courts, and the state shouldn't be involved in marriage beyond granting civil unions anyway...it's a religious issue.

228 posted on 01/21/2004 2:14:38 AM PST by grania ("Won't get fooled again")
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To: A2J
I don't believe any conservative expects that Bush fall in line 100% of the time, but on major points as the Homeland Security Department debacle (i.e., the Patriot Act), increasing spending on a scale that would make democrats salivate, and the amnesty issue are just three points where he is not moving toward the mainstream of America but beyond it way out to the left.

Then there is the pro-abortion funding of Planned Parenthood and support of UNESCO. Don't forget the attack on freedom of speech by signing the McCain-Feingold Campaign Finance Regulation bill.

229 posted on 01/21/2004 2:16:20 AM PST by The_Eaglet (Opportunity: http://www.peroutka2004.com)
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To: Porterville
What is interesting is that the biggest challenger would be Lieberman, but the dems don't want him because he is... well, because let's just say dems are racist

Jeez you sound just like a liberal. "They don't like his policies. He is Jewish. Therefore they don't like Jews." Play the race card at DU. You'll get far better results.
230 posted on 01/21/2004 2:44:41 AM PST by LanaTurnerOverdrive
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To: Texasforever
The Far-right is nowhere to be found except at home on election day or chasing the latest flavor of "true conservative" 3rd party.

Your reconstruction of this issue is untrue. Bush ran business-wing candidates against incumbent conservative Republicans in the primaries when he was governor, and he's doing it again (so we are told/promised/threatened) in the case of Tom Tancredo. The business-wing crowd did it in California, too, bringing in Arnold Schwarzenegger when McClintock and the conservatives could have won it outright by themselves.

The business wing pushes conservatives out of the party, and then guys like you come around and sneer that the conservatives aren't "loyal", when it was trimmers like Kay Bailey Hutchison who turned their backs on the conservatives to begin with on issues like abortion. Kay didn't need to trim on abortion, she just agreed with NARAL and NOW, so she decamped on the conservatives in the Texas GOP (a whole damn bunch of people, and you know it!!!) and then got in a snit when they called her on it at the state convention.

Yacht Clubbers feel free to decamp whenever they want and not stick by the platform, but when they're running the committees, everyone else has to bellyfeel the Kool-Aid or we aren't "loyal", we're rat-weasels who are going to run out and support the Socialist Workers Party -- well, just keep saying that until it comes true! Is that better than doing something for the conservatives and meaning it?

Or is it just that you think that real conservatives are a bunch of below-the-salt, not-rich-enough-for-prime-time, polyester-clad Unwashed fit only to bring your car around? And that you have to break it off in them every chance you get, because your class-snottiness and amour-propre demand it? Do you think some old guy in a black suit isn't good enough to merit your loyalty back, is that it? Is that your idea of party loyalty, and of how to treat American citizens who don't belong to the People Like Us Club? And after Ronnie Reagan and his brown suits [Egon von Furstenburg, on haberdashery: "A man in a brown suit will never be taken seriously."] brought you pinstripers back from howling in the wilderness in 1980?

As far as "defending marriage", what's Bush doing holding conversations with the Log Cabins? What is there to talk about with those guys? Single-sex marriage? Repealing sodomy laws? He was doing it in 2000, then he appointed a Loggie to be his AIDS guy when he didn't have to do that. Why? Are the 2.5% of the electorate who are gay a big swing constituency now? Are they going to back Bush on partial-birth abortion? On school vouchers? Come on!

231 posted on 01/21/2004 2:46:30 AM PST by lentulusgracchus (Et praeterea caeterum censeo, delenda est Carthago. -- M. Porcius Cato)
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To: JustPiper
Ladies and Gentlemen, my fellow FReepers,

what has happened? Could anyone of you please give me a simple answer to a simple question:

Is it possible (not in theory but for real) that Bush won´t be re-elected in November?

My media here presents the Democratic candidates in a bright shining light, pretending that they´re the saviours of the world. So journalists here are completely biased regarding the presidential campaign.

I for one actually don´t really care about the election, since it´s not my choice. But I´d like to know wether the coverage like "Bush is in danger" is exaggerated or not.

Thanks in advance for your answer,

Michael
232 posted on 01/21/2004 3:44:03 AM PST by Michael81Dus
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To: Michael81Dus
The entire process right now is in choosing the democrat candidate.The media here is mostly liberal,so they love it,except when a top contender implodes like Dean,but they quickly fall in love with the next frontrunner.Bush has n't really started campaigning.It will be a close election,I believe.I believe Bush can win it.
233 posted on 01/21/2004 3:53:29 AM PST by MEG33
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To: Texasforever
...the immigration proposal is not a vote getting strategy and it is an issue that will be forgotten in a couple of weeks outside of the usual suspects...

You're too dismissive, Tex.

I can't tell you how many times I've looked around on election nights, when things were hanging by a chad, and tried to catch the eye of the Mister Confident Predictions of whatever campaign we were working on. Every vote is needed, and this idea of trading off a bloc to capture another is high risk. The Dems have been very clever, the way they have neutralised the gun issue so Southerners can vote according to tradition. And I don't think the amnesty issue is going to disappear in a couple of weeks. Our prime minister fought and won an election by being tough on illegals and our Labor Opposition's polling tells them not to dare go hard against it. I see a lot of similarities with that, Stateside. All it would take would be some kind of last minute scandal, manufactured by the Dem machine and set running by their media, to shave a heap of points off the President's lead later this year. Anyway, we'll see. I've got this thread bookmarked as 'Tex's Predictions', so we can review as required. :) Cheers, By

234 posted on 01/21/2004 4:27:01 AM PST by Byron_the_Aussie (http://www.theinterviewwithgod.com/popup2.html)
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To: Texasforever
He was born with a silver boot in his mouth...

No he wasn't. He was born with it in his brain.

235 posted on 01/21/2004 4:30:17 AM PST by AAABEST
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To: CWOJackson
"...till November, then rub his face in it good and hard so he never forgets, is my motto! Blackbird." Hey, I want that quote bumped as often as possible. Blackbird just summed up the whole political agenda for that group of people. They don't care about this country or what would happen to it with Kerry in the White House. They don't care whether the Supreme Court gets stacked with pro-abortion justices for the next 20 years. This is all about political grudges and personal pay back. That needs to be exposed to the light of day often.

Here, allow me to help you out! Bump it often, and add your own Socialist Rhetoric while you're at it. Your hatred of those of us on the right is more and more glaring every single day. Pummel away, I'm not hiding. Blackbird.

236 posted on 01/21/2004 4:37:46 AM PST by BlackbirdSST
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To: denydenydeny
Consider the source. It's nutty Joe Farah.

You are so right. Joe needs to get out more. Every one of the "horrible mistakes" is highly popular with one or more segments of the electorate.

Just wait, later this year Joe will cite these same mistakes of Bush as pandering to voters instead of alienating them.

237 posted on 01/21/2004 4:38:11 AM PST by Sci Fi Guy
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To: JustPiper
IMHO everyone is missing one thing in this discussion. What is missing is the recognition of the "us vs. them" motive in human behavior.

Until about 6-10 thousand years ago we functioned in face to face, small groups. Competing for food and power resulted in a constant effort for one group to do in another. This has been so hard-wired into our psychology that even very simple social psychology experiments can show how readily even fictional small groups will punish other groups with unbelievable fury and consequences.

Usually, there is always an in-group morality and quite a different out-group morality. By now you probably think this just a piece of crap; however, see Adams and Hogg's book on "Social Identity Theory: Constructive and Critical Advances (1990)." Also, contrast Deuteronomy 15:7-10 (in group morality) with Deuteronomy 24:21-22 (out group morality).

The upshot of this is that when we strongly identify with a group there is an atavistic tendency to resort to inapplicable, small group behavior. Hence, there is a tendency to feel and act in a deplorable way to the "out group."

Pesident Bush has inadvertantly slipped into this real quagmire--manifest hostility to the Mexican illegals. The emotions are powerful, not rational and dangerous. I credit him with trying to make an effort here. All previous Presidents have either made light of the problem, ignored it or in the case of President Reagan changed the law. IMHO the President has taken this effort on full well knowing it will cost him respect and votes.

What is usually suggested on these and other pages is a macho, macho send them back. Remember, there are 8-10 million of them and they came here to work and most do. It is morally hard to become angry and punitive (on an individual not a group basis) with someone whose chief failing is they want to participate and produce to feed themselves and their families.

238 posted on 01/21/2004 4:45:01 AM PST by shrinkermd (i)
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To: JustPiper
Bush is trying to play both sides of the fence. Spending 18bil Usd on Aids in other countries? I don't want to spend a dime on fighting Aids in this country. You might as well flush the money down the toilet. I seriously have to wonder about the amnesty for illegal aliens, and on this issue Bush may lose my vote( not that I'd ever vote for a rat), how does this benefit the U.S.? Maybe he should take the money to fight aids and spend it on cleaning up the illegal aliens and border security. The tax cuts I agree with, I think tax rates should be brought back down to the levels of the second Reagan tax cut. Bush is basically trying to out-democrat the democrats and lower taxes and fight the war on terrorism.
239 posted on 01/21/2004 4:57:49 AM PST by muslims=borg (Behind enemy lines in New Jersey)
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To: onyx
yall remember Pat's VP choice.

Ezola Foster? Ardent conservative. Fill me in.

240 posted on 01/21/2004 4:59:29 AM PST by Old Fud
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