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Freep save for Dean in New Hampshire?

Posted on 01/20/2004 5:07:50 PM PST by counterpunch

Dean seems to be in some trouble. I understand New Hampshire primaries allow party cross-over voting. Is anyone organising a Republican cross-over vote for Dean there? Is anyone in NH going to cross-over for Dean in the primary?

He is by far the best candidate (save Sharpton) to hand Bush a landslide. Let's give him a helping hand next week.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Politics/Elections; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: 2004; dean; freep; newhampshire; nh; nomination; primary
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1 posted on 01/20/2004 5:07:50 PM PST by counterpunch
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To: counterpunch
One cannot crossover from Repub to Dem (or vice-versa).

If a registered Independent as am I, one can choose to vote in either primary,

I've been planning to vote for Dean for a while.
2 posted on 01/20/2004 5:10:23 PM PST by RJCogburn ("Hooray for the man from Texas!"........Mattie Ross of near Dardenelle in Yell County)
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To: counterpunch
Don't do it. I think it's dishonest.
3 posted on 01/20/2004 5:10:43 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: Unam Sanctam
They did it for McCain in 2000. Anyways as we see, only independents can, and it's certainly fair game for them.
4 posted on 01/20/2004 5:13:59 PM PST by counterpunch (click my name to check out my 'toons!)
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To: counterpunch
I think it's a bad idea if Dean got the nomination.

If he did, the media would promote his leftist ideas, particularly our surrender in Iraq. This would encurage whatever dead-enders are there, and other terrorists to hang on.

In 72, the anti-war McGovern lost badly to Nixon. But within a couple of years, Nixon had been run out of DC by doing things that were perfectly normal under JFK and LBJ.

That was the beginning of the lefts takeover of the Democratic party.

For the country, I hope the Dems nominate the candidate who could come closest to winning. I think that's Edwards. Who is smart enough to know that we can't leave Iraq and hand a victory to terrorists who would understand that the US is just a paper tiger.

A Dean candidacy could be a tragedy, even if Bush wins.

I'd prefer a Lieberman candicacy. He couldn't win, but he understands the USs position in the world. But since Lieberman won't get the nomination, the next best would be Edwards.

Just remember, lightning might just strike if Dean runs. Because however slight the chance, he might win it.

5 posted on 01/20/2004 5:17:07 PM PST by narby (The Greens, like the Nazis before them, are inordinate, i.e., there is no limit to their demands.)
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To: narby
True, that is a possibility, however slim.
However my main concern is knocking Clark out of the race ASAP. Not because I think he has a chance against Bush, because he's just as insane and pathological as Dean. But my concern is the longer he is in, the more credibility he gets, and he is giving a very bad image to our military leadership. If he got the nomination, as a decorated general, he would do serious harm to our troops' morale as a representative of the military.

The damage Clark is doing to our military is far more dangerous than anything Dean may say as the Democrat's nominee.
6 posted on 01/20/2004 5:32:35 PM PST by counterpunch (click my name to check out my 'toons!)
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To: counterpunch
Dean is done, kaput, finished. All his little Deaniacs have taken their orange caps and gone home to pout and bitch about how the media screwed their ranting lunatic of a candidate. Vote strategically to draw the election out to the bitter end and drain their pathetic publicly funded piggy banks. Don't vote for Weasley or Lurch.
7 posted on 01/20/2004 5:33:59 PM PST by JebRudy2008 (Dean isn't angry. He is just misunderstood.)
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To: counterpunch
I think it's a great idea, and plan to cast my lot on Feb. 10, in VA. The longer we can help sustain any kind of race the better off we are. It takes time, money, and other resources to keep battling, we can help drain the dim's as much as possible.
8 posted on 01/20/2004 5:43:53 PM PST by gimmealewinsky
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To: JebRudy2008
Absolutely. Though I don't think Dean is done.

Here is my analysis:
This race has become Dean vs. anti-Dean.
Clark had emerged as the early anti-Dean, but he missed his chance at the lock on that vote by skipping Iowa. With a strong finish by both Kerry and Edwards, those three will be battling for the same section of anti-Dean voters. I figure that is about 2/3 of the primary voters now. Dean and his supporters are an island to themselves and I don't think those core votes are transferable. Dean is like a more marketable LaRouche.

After Iowa, there are supposed to be three viable candidates, but with Clark and to a lesser extent Lieberman bypassing Iowa, they have unnaturally enlarged the the field. So with 4 or 5 candidates all fighting for the 2/3 of the voters who are loking for the anti-Dean, Dean may be able to squeak by with his core supporters. Kerry and Clark will split the votes in the northeast, and Edwards will split them with Clark in the South. Both candidates will cut into Clark and the other one's votes enough to keep them all below a third.

Had Dean not placed below Kerry and Edwards in Iowa then I believe those two would have been finished and it would have been a Dean/Clark race. Thanks to Dean's poor showing, those two have a renewed viability as the anti-Dean and it cuts directly into Clark.

It seems that all four of them (Dean, Kerry, Edwards Clark) will remain viable until at least Super Tuesday. It should be anyone's race until at least then. So yes, we want to make sure Dean stays in and maintains a slight advantage for optimum bitterness in the race.
9 posted on 01/20/2004 5:48:07 PM PST by counterpunch (click my name to check out my 'toons!)
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To: narby
Edwards would be a nightmare. The soccer mom's are already falling all over themselves, he's "so dreamy". He's got his two cute kids to exploit and he's from the South.

Not to mention, he's a slick trial lawyer that knows how to debate.

Women vote, in large numbers. And he WILL toe the Clinton line.

Edwards is a nightmare.

Go Dean!
10 posted on 01/20/2004 5:52:56 PM PST by terilyn
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To: counterpunch
Yes, I would say vote for Dean.

I have my early ballot ready here in AZ . I switched to the Dems in Dec and will switch back Feb 4th. I am leaning to Dean or Sharpton.
11 posted on 01/20/2004 5:56:52 PM PST by Az Joe (Hey Howard the Coward!----Bush IS MY neighbor!)
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To: terilyn
I really think what happened in Iowa was a fluke. People got scared of Dean and voted for Edwards at the last minute.
12 posted on 01/20/2004 5:57:15 PM PST by Burn24
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To: Burn24
I really think what happened in Iowa was a fluke. People got scared of Dean

I don't think it was a fluke. I think people got scared of Dean - period. I've been reading a lot of threads at Dem sites about Dean, and there are so many threads that begin like this: "Well, I WAS a supporter of Dean, but now I support..." So many of Dean's supporters are jumping ship it seems.
13 posted on 01/20/2004 5:58:55 PM PST by summer
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To: Burn24
I really think what happened in Iowa was a fluke. People got scared of Dean

I don't think it was a fluke. I think people got scared of Dean - period. I've been reading a lot of threads at Dem sites about Dean, and there are MANY threads that begin like this: "Well, I WAS a supporter of Dean, but now I support..." So many of Dean's supporters are jumping ship it seems.
14 posted on 01/20/2004 5:59:17 PM PST by summer
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To: Az Joe
Sharpton will not register in AZ. Sacrifice your vote with honor to Dean, who will need it in a tight race with Clark.
I will be doing the same as a registered "Decline to State" here in California.
15 posted on 01/20/2004 6:00:25 PM PST by counterpunch (click my name to check out my 'toons!)
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To: counterpunch
Even though Bush would easily defeat Dean, the media and Democratic members of congress would say it was because the voters were anti-Dean not pro-Bush and they would try to deny Bush a mandate. If Bush beats Kerry or Edwards, the media will have no choice but to give Bush a mandate providing he wins by a healthy margin.
16 posted on 01/20/2004 6:08:15 PM PST by JohnBDay
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To: JohnBDay
Who cares what they say?

What matters most is that Dean will expose the ugly underbelly of what the Democrat party is all about, and voters will want no part of it. Dean will do serious damage to the public's perception of what a Democrat is, and it will have a longterm affect.

This is what we want.
Also, Dean will dismantle the Clinton party machine and what little "legacy" he has left. Not to mention, many Democrat senators and representatives will go down with him. Think about the bigger picture and the longer term possibilities.

Go Dean!
17 posted on 01/20/2004 6:12:40 PM PST by counterpunch (click my name to check out my 'toons!)
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To: JohnBDay
Having beat Dean would be no more of a problem for GWB after the election than beating somebody else. I wouldn't worry about it if I were you.
18 posted on 01/20/2004 6:34:55 PM PST by Post Toasties
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To: JohnBDay
Haven't you noticed that the 'Rats have been doing their damnedest all along to 'deny Bush a mandate'? They won't be able to summon any more resolve after 2004 no matter how GWB wins.
19 posted on 01/20/2004 6:37:01 PM PST by Post Toasties
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To: Little Bill
Well? You gonna cross over?
20 posted on 01/20/2004 6:38:33 PM PST by RaceBannon
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