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Giuliani in 2008?
Cedar Ra[ids Gazette ^ | January 20, 2004 | Dick Hogan

Posted on 01/20/2004 2:34:08 PM PST by presidio9

Linn County Republicans last night seemed to be looking at political goals for the near and distant future. The near future is re-electing President Bush in November. But then Rep. Jim Leach, introducing former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani at the Linn County Republican caucus, planted the seed that Giuliani would make a good presidential candidate in 2008.

Giuliani responded to the standing ovation by several hundred people at Veterans Memorial Coliseum by saying he was overwhelmed to be there.

"There are more Republicans in this room than in all of New York City," he joked.

If Giuliani has presidential aspirations, he ignored them last night to beat the drum loudly for the Bush-Cheney ticket in November.

Recalling the deadly 9/11 terrorist attack on New York City while he was mayor, Giuliani said he told his police commissioner, "Thank God George Bush is the president of the United States. I knew him to be a man of character. I knew him to be a man of determination who was not going to be swayed. He stood up and said he was going to confront terrorism . . . to prevent it from happening again."

Giuliani said Bush's post-9/11 actions shine even more in light of the fact that Bush had only been in office about nine months when the attack happened.

Giuliani said all the Democratic candidates for president wanted to set the clock back before 9/11 and negotiate, including leaving Saddam Hussein in power in Iraq.

"We believe the world is safer now than it was then" because of Bush's handling of the crisis, Giuliani said.

He also praised Bush's economic policies, saying the economy is rebounding because Bush cut taxes and government control over the private sector.

"The Democrats want to raise taxes again and interrupt the recovery -- one of the strongest we've seen in the last 20 years. Does that make any sense?" Giuliani asked.

"Republicans consistently believe in people. The Democrats believe in government. We would be the party to say we would trust people more (than government)," he said.

The last election was close, and Giuliani said Republicans will fight as if this one will also be tight. He asked Iowa Republicans to work hard to ensure the 4,000-vote margin in the last election reverses and favors the GOP this time.

Cris Tanner, 46, of Marion, said Giuliani's comments inspired her to work harder to spread the word about Bush's good record to people who are undecided.

She also liked the idea of having Giuliani run for president in 2008.

"He'd have my vote," she said. "I think he would carry on and pick up where President Bush would leave off."

Joshua McKenzie, 19, a Kirkwood Community College student attending his first caucus, was similarly inspired, particularly by Giuliani's reminders about Bush's handling of terrorism and the economy.


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: 2008; giuliani
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To: Iron Eagle
I would bolt the the Party. And, it is true they would not miss me, singularly. But, they woulld miss the scores millions of other pro-life conservatives that leave with me.

A Tom Monaghan type would probably run as an independent.

41 posted on 01/20/2004 3:23:30 PM PST by JohnnyZ (This Week in Senate Races: David Beasley (Y), Katherine Harris (N), Gary Hart (?), and Dan Blue (?))
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To: Iron Eagle
I live in Linn County, Iowa and was Alan Keyes chairman in 1996. Alan lost to Bob Dole in Linn County by three votes.

We are a conservative county that doesn't take kindly to RINO's.

Jeb Bush 'o8.
42 posted on 01/20/2004 3:23:49 PM PST by Iowa David
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To: presidio9
I could support Guiliani for liberal New York but not for president.

We need to go more conservative and I think Governor Owens from Colorado is a good prospect. He's done well for us.
43 posted on 01/20/2004 3:24:20 PM PST by Columbine (Owens '08)
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To: Iowa David
I could support Jeb too but I don't think he can run in '08.

It's the dynasty thing.
44 posted on 01/20/2004 3:25:26 PM PST by Columbine (Owens '08)
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To: presidio9; Cagey
Hey, why don't you two stop the name calling and state for the rest of us why you believe that Rudy and Bush are philosophical kissing cousins or polar opposites.

I'd like to hear both arguments...without the catty bullsh**.

45 posted on 01/20/2004 3:26:46 PM PST by wtc911 (I would like at least to know his name)
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To: antaresequity
Rudy WOULD be running against Hitlery. I wouldn't mind if Rudy becomes President after President Bush's second term. I want someone who will continue going after terrorists and Rudy would be that man. If he's willing to blow Osama away, you know he'll go after terrorists.

I don't care for some of his other stances, but right now, the most important thing to me is getting those bent on destroying this country.
46 posted on 01/20/2004 3:27:13 PM PST by BMC1
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To: Cagey
What the heck are you talking about? Rudy is the only one who can honestly beat the BEAST FROM HELL in 08! In a heartbeat I would vot for him! It's him or satan's daughter hitlery!! Take your choice!
47 posted on 01/20/2004 3:30:31 PM PST by RoseofTexas (r)
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To: presidio9
Good God No!

Your choice, Giuliani or Hitlery.
There is no other Republican with enough charisma to beat her, regardless of positions. Most people will always vote emotionally.

So9

48 posted on 01/20/2004 3:32:38 PM PST by Servant of the 9 (Goldwater Republican)
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To: presidio9
Santorum is owesome, but my concern is that he alienates the pro-death crowd with is rhetoric (since he is staunchly pro-life!)
49 posted on 01/20/2004 3:33:15 PM PST by Maigrey (Never post anything that will make your husband or the IRS hate you! - Jim Robinson)
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I have to say I'm pro-choice, but we'll save the abortion debate for another time. As much as I like Rudy, and I would think long and hard about voting for him mind you if he was on the ticket, I know he would never win. If he managed to get out of the primarys, which is doubtful, conservatives would stay away in droves. He's got luggage galore, he's simply not going to win an open shot at the White House in 2008. It pains me to say that, but its the truth.

I'd much rather see him Go for Gov. of New York, or bide his time and hope for an Attorney General nomination.

Besides, remember Gov's are who wins National elections.

You can count on one hand the candidates in the last 100 years who've won who weren't VP's or Gov's.
50 posted on 01/20/2004 3:33:33 PM PST by jmcclain19
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To: presidio9
Never
51 posted on 01/20/2004 3:33:55 PM PST by petercooper (DEAN = Democrats Experiencing Another Nightmare)
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To: RoseofTexas; wtc911
In a heartbeat I would vot for him!

Rose, I would too. I just like the guy and know where he's coming from. I should have put the requisite /s in that first post of mine for you.

52 posted on 01/20/2004 3:36:13 PM PST by Cagey
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To: presidio9
Rudy has unfinished business in New York.














53 posted on 01/20/2004 3:37:57 PM PST by DKNY
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To: antaresequity
Rudy's Job is to run against Hillary

He had the chance, and he threw it away. I think Rudy wants to succeed Pataki, sooner rather than later. I just don't see Rudy having legislative ambition.

54 posted on 01/20/2004 3:40:44 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: RoseofTexas
Rudy is the only one who can honestly beat the BEAST FROM HELL in 08!

Try to offer some semblance of an argument -- ANYTHING! -- that this is true and maybe I won't consider you a raving left wing pro-abort intent on getting a liberal in the White House.

Because outside of a few Rudy flunkies, nobody with half a brain believes that is true.

Try: J.C. Watts could not beat Hillary because . . .
Bill Frist could not beat Hillary because . . .
and keep going until you have explained your bizarre statement that NO other candidate could beat her.

55 posted on 01/20/2004 3:41:01 PM PST by JohnnyZ (This Week in Senate Races: David Beasley (Y), Katherine Harris (N), Gary Hart (?), and Dan Blue (?))
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To: Iron Eagle
This may suprise you, but right-to-life is a winning position on abortion (see this article at democratsforlife.org.

Neither is abortion necessarily a "woman's issue"(actually, of course it isn't since both men and women are aborted): More women switch their position once they simply see what an abortion is.

Polls increasingly show how out of touch the mainstream media is on this issue with the population at large, with a majority of Americans now declaring that abortion is the deliberate killing of a human being. But then, we in flyover country don't matter to them, but who cares.

56 posted on 01/20/2004 3:42:31 PM PST by Lexinom
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To: Lexinom
I think the Clinton's hold is slipping through time and by '08 this whole business might not even be an issue...However, should the wicked witch of the east run in '08, I feel that we have several good solid Republicans like JC Watts, Rick Santorum, Tom Delay and my favorite JD Hayworth out there that may gain in stature and viability between now and then...Let's take a deep breath and stick to THIS election for now!
57 posted on 01/20/2004 3:57:33 PM PST by princess leah
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To: Iron Eagle
Suit yourself! By adopting that approach, you help manifest more abortions and a more pronunced culture of death.

Hard to see how that can make you happier.
58 posted on 01/20/2004 3:57:43 PM PST by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: princess leah
You got it, it's sure to be a roller coaster.
59 posted on 01/20/2004 4:02:12 PM PST by Lexinom
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To: Iowa David
I live in Linn County, Iowa and was Alan Keyes chairman in 1996.

A-ha! I know who you are. ;O) I was a precinct captain. While going through some old files a couple weeks ago, I was reminded that Alan won this precinct by a very large margin. I really thought he was going to win the county, thanks in no small part to your tireless efforts.

Alan lost to Bob Dole in Linn County by three votes.

Sure, that was the "official" result. Did you ever get the precinct-by-precinct results from Des Moines, so we could check for... um... tabulation "errors"? I seem to recall those numbers were reportedly (conveniently?) discarded, lost, destroyed, or otherwise unavailable from the powers-that-be.

We are a conservative county that doesn't take kindly to RINO's.

Only when we're motivated. Frankly, I wondered if Giuliani was brought in to discourage conservatives from attending the county-wide caucus. That way, we wouldn't hijack the platform issues, the county convention, and the county machine like we (used to) do every time there's a Republican race for President. :-)

60 posted on 01/20/2004 4:12:02 PM PST by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary. You have the right to be wrong.)
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