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Giuliani in 2008?
Cedar Ra[ids Gazette ^ | January 20, 2004 | Dick Hogan

Posted on 01/20/2004 2:34:08 PM PST by presidio9

Linn County Republicans last night seemed to be looking at political goals for the near and distant future. The near future is re-electing President Bush in November. But then Rep. Jim Leach, introducing former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani at the Linn County Republican caucus, planted the seed that Giuliani would make a good presidential candidate in 2008.

Giuliani responded to the standing ovation by several hundred people at Veterans Memorial Coliseum by saying he was overwhelmed to be there.

"There are more Republicans in this room than in all of New York City," he joked.

If Giuliani has presidential aspirations, he ignored them last night to beat the drum loudly for the Bush-Cheney ticket in November.

Recalling the deadly 9/11 terrorist attack on New York City while he was mayor, Giuliani said he told his police commissioner, "Thank God George Bush is the president of the United States. I knew him to be a man of character. I knew him to be a man of determination who was not going to be swayed. He stood up and said he was going to confront terrorism . . . to prevent it from happening again."

Giuliani said Bush's post-9/11 actions shine even more in light of the fact that Bush had only been in office about nine months when the attack happened.

Giuliani said all the Democratic candidates for president wanted to set the clock back before 9/11 and negotiate, including leaving Saddam Hussein in power in Iraq.

"We believe the world is safer now than it was then" because of Bush's handling of the crisis, Giuliani said.

He also praised Bush's economic policies, saying the economy is rebounding because Bush cut taxes and government control over the private sector.

"The Democrats want to raise taxes again and interrupt the recovery -- one of the strongest we've seen in the last 20 years. Does that make any sense?" Giuliani asked.

"Republicans consistently believe in people. The Democrats believe in government. We would be the party to say we would trust people more (than government)," he said.

The last election was close, and Giuliani said Republicans will fight as if this one will also be tight. He asked Iowa Republicans to work hard to ensure the 4,000-vote margin in the last election reverses and favors the GOP this time.

Cris Tanner, 46, of Marion, said Giuliani's comments inspired her to work harder to spread the word about Bush's good record to people who are undecided.

She also liked the idea of having Giuliani run for president in 2008.

"He'd have my vote," she said. "I think he would carry on and pick up where President Bush would leave off."

Joshua McKenzie, 19, a Kirkwood Community College student attending his first caucus, was similarly inspired, particularly by Giuliani's reminders about Bush's handling of terrorism and the economy.


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: 2008; giuliani
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To: presidio9
June 25 2003...you called another poster who experienced GZ and said he would not go to work in a rebuilt Trade Center a wimp, a coward, weak hearted, a liberal nut job and afraid.

You in your own words "mocked" him, and then went on to tell the world how brave you are for "confronting the terrorists every day" as if you were night jumping into Afghanistan with real men instead of working in mid town with millions of others including little girls going to school.

I had forgotten that about you. I'm glad you gave me reason to take another look.

121 posted on 01/21/2004 9:39:34 AM PST by wtc911 (I would like at least to know his name)
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To: wtc911
June 25 2003...you called another poster who experienced GZ and said he would not go to work in a rebuilt Trade Center a wimp, a coward, weak hearted, a liberal nut job and afraid.

OK, I'll bite. Please link to the post where I use all those words.

Why am I not suprised that you copped out so quickly on your threat to run away from this thread?

122 posted on 01/21/2004 9:44:28 AM PST by presidio9 (protectionism is a false god)
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To: presidio9

This guy in 2012...

123 posted on 01/21/2004 9:45:51 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative ("Howard Dean is incontrovertible proof that God is on Bush's side in the 2004 election"- Dick Morris)
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To: presidio9
No, I don't think I'll spend any more time with you. It's not important to me what you think. And, so many others have tried, all unsuccessfully, to get you to see that name calling is the cheapest form of communication on this forum.

You are who you are and your words are there as your record.

Should any on-lookers want the post info they can freepmail me and I'll point them to it.

124 posted on 01/21/2004 10:15:12 AM PST by wtc911 (I would like at least to know his name)
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To: wtc911
No, I don't think I'll spend any more time with you. It's not important to me what you think. And, so many others have tried, all unsuccessfully, to get you to see that name calling is the cheapest form of communication on this forum.

You are who you are and your words are there as your record.

Should any on-lookers want the post info they can freepmail me and I'll point them to it.

In other words, you lied when you made those things up about me, and now you have invented a spectacularly lame cop-out: "I have the proof, but I'm not going to give it to you. I should have expected as much from you.

BTW, the cheapest form of communication on this forum is actually desperate attempts to seize the moral high ground. Verifiable observations are not "name calling." You have documented yourself on this thread as either
(a)a lying wease
OR
(b)stupid.

Which is it?

125 posted on 01/21/2004 10:48:59 AM PST by presidio9 (protectionism is a false god)
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To: presidio9
June 25, 2003. Thread...An empty plan for Ground Zero...you used all those names I mentioned and more.
126 posted on 01/21/2004 12:32:19 PM PST by wtc911 (I would like at least to know his name)
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To: wtc911
But you can't provide the link, huh? I'm inclined to call it stupidity, but I'm gonna go with "weasel."
127 posted on 01/21/2004 12:34:03 PM PST by presidio9 (protectionism is a false god)
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To: wtc911; eastsider; tiamat; ARCADIA; AAABEST; NYC GOP Chick; Dead Dog; 1Old Pro; finnman69; ...
Since you have characteristically weaseled out of posting the thread, I am going to do you the favor of linking it myself. I stand by everything I said to NYC Republican. The people I pinged in all agreed with me on that thread. My point was and remains that as a former tenant of 2 WTC, and current tenant of Rockafeller Plaza (top current terrorist target in NYC by most accounts), I would be honored to work in a rebuilt WTC. NYC Republican felt the need to persue a 200 post thread about how people would be afraid to work there. You joined in to state your opinion that I would be afraid to work there as fact. This, I believe is a cardinal sin in your book. You also engage in prodigious name calling (also a no-no, according to this thread). I welcome all to revist this thread, as it will demonstrate to readers exactly what sort of a jackass you really are.
128 posted on 01/21/2004 12:59:05 PM PST by presidio9 (protectionism is a false god)
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An Empty Plan For Ground Zero
129 posted on 01/21/2004 1:00:13 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: presidio9
Would Jeb go for it?

Tia

131 posted on 01/21/2004 1:06:15 PM PST by tiamat ("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno World!")
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To: tiamat
I doubt he's ever have the chance. Personally, I think it's about time this country elected another Catholic president. The first was an embarassment.
132 posted on 01/21/2004 1:13:12 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: presidio9
I have no problems with a Catholic, or a Jew or anything else for that matter. ( Well, maybe i have problems with Islam) but is there a suitable Catholic who ISN'T a Dem?

Tia

133 posted on 01/21/2004 1:32:50 PM PST by tiamat ("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno World!")
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To: tiamat
is there a suitable Catholic who ISN'T a Dem?

Other than Jeb Bush (he converted)? Rick Santorum?Don Carcieri?

134 posted on 01/21/2004 1:41:57 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: wtc911
"During the time of his one elected position what changes did he make in the NYC gun laws?"

He proposed that the City Council (I think that is the group) ban guns within 1000 feet of a school.

The City Council declined. (he tried).

135 posted on 01/21/2004 1:42:02 PM PST by gatex
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To: presidio9
Didn't know Jeb had converted.

Did not realise those other guys were.

Thanks for telling me.

Tia

136 posted on 01/21/2004 1:51:19 PM PST by tiamat ("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno World!")
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To: tiamat
Jeb's wife, Columba, is Catholic and Hispanic.
137 posted on 01/21/2004 1:53:23 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: presidio9
Makes sense.
138 posted on 01/21/2004 1:54:58 PM PST by tiamat ("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno World!")
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To: tiamat
Makes sense

And his brother is "pandering" when he reaches out to Hispanics. How many Hispanic relatives do you thing Clark, Kerry, Dean and Edwards have between them?

139 posted on 01/21/2004 1:57:27 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: presidio9
Depends!

A while ago they were all Jewish! And I just bet some of their Best Friends Are Black

They will say/claim whatever works! <p. Tia

140 posted on 01/21/2004 2:15:09 PM PST by tiamat ("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno World!")
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