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Two Tancredo’s Two Too Many for Bush Administration
azconservative.org ^ | 01/20/2004 | By Dennis Durband, Editor

Posted on 01/20/2004 9:05:55 AM PST by VU4G10

Colorado Republican Congressman Tom Tancredo is a thorn in Karl Rove’s side, to say the least. Tancredo favors border controls; the president and many in Congress do not. Rove, the president’s senior advisor, is attempting to find someone to run against Cong. Tancredo in this year’s election. So far, he has no takers. After all, Tancredo won re-election in 2002 with a 70-percent majority, and no mentally-balanced person would want to challenge such a formidable foe. It would be a waste of time and money.

Many Arizona conservatives are urging State Rep. Russell Pearce to run against Cong. Jeff Flake in District 6 this year. Pearce is a senior advisor to the popular Protect Arizona Now (PAN) initiative. If placed on the 2004 ballot, and if voters support it as expected, PAN would actually require proof of citizenship for things of some importance, such as voting. The White House, state and national GOP leadership favor the president’s Temporary Worker Program and the Flake-McCain-Kolbe guest worker bill, which amount to nothing more than amnesty for millions of foreign invaders.

Now the stage is set: two diametrically-opposed sides with sharply-contrasting views on the border invasion. Tancredo and Pearce are advocating tighter controls of the borders and a stoppage of the drain on American taxpayers caused by the border invasion. The corporate appeasers want to dissolve the borders.

The worst thing in Rove’s world would be to lose Flake and have Pearce replace him through the election process. Rove wants to subtract Tancredo and isn’t going to succeed in that aim. He sure doesn’t want Pearce -- another Tancredo -- going to Washington, D.C., a year from now. Two Tancredo’s are two too many, in the view of the Bush Administration. However, most Republicans would love to see Tancredo and Pearce representing them in Congress.

How motivated are those who oppose Tancredo and Pearce? Let's put things into proper perspective and look at some very recent history.

Some influential and well-connected people have recently suggest that Barnes may be a set-up, a plant to dilute a potential Pearce candidacy by splitting votes between Flake's would-be challengers. Barnes is a moderate who's totally with President Bush.

On Dec. 31, Rep. Pearce was getting ready to appear as a guest on Salt Lake City Radio Station KSL's “Born on the 4th of July" program, hosted by Barbara Jean. It appeared that this would be just another of the many state/regional/national media appearances Pearce would make on the border controversy. As it turned out, this was no ordinary day.

Arizona people listening on the Internet reported that the Salt Lake City station's power went down and the show’s producers were having trouble with outgoing broadcasting and incoming calls. Just bad luck? Tampering? Sun spots? Possibly any of the above, but we're just getting warmed up. There's more to the story.

Fast forward to last week when Pearce was getting ready to guest-host two hours of Ernie Hancock's show on KFNX Radio in Phoenix. Guess what? The station reported losing power and similar problems as the Utah station had experienced. Pearce claims a car accident damaged a nearby power source. But wait: we're still not done.

Rusty Childress, co-chairman of PAN, was a guest on KJZZ Radio, of Mesa, last week ... and guess what happened? The call-in lines went dead.

On Saturday night, Kathy McKee, the other co-chair of PAN, tried to call KFNX Radio to be the guest on the "Mad as Hell" program. ''To make a long story short, I couldn't get in .. . . because the phone lines went down at 10:45 p.m.,'' McKee said. ''They had to call me and patch me in, but then callers couldn't call in.'' Hmmm ... mighty, mighty interesting series of events.

Also, last week GOPUSA/Arizona posted two separate Internet polls on the Congressional District 6 race. The first poll appeared on the Internet for three days and queried readers as to their choice between Barnes and the incumbent Flake. This was a poll that did not get much traction or generate much excitement. Barnes received 22 of the 40 total votes cast, with Flake garnering 13 votes and the third option: “other” getting five votes.

In mid-week, the poll changed to add Pearce to the mix. Almost as quickly as the poll went up, some unknown person(s) with great technical expertise -- possibly some of it legal -- developed a very keen interest in the poll. It became readily apparent that the insertion of Pearce’s name had tripped the sensor of someone very interested in one Arizona congressional seat.

Within 12 hours, 188 votes showed up on the poll screen. Flake and Barnes were neck and neck; Pearce did not show up on the radar. A short time later, the vote tally reached 240 and Flake began to pull away from Barnes. Pearce barely registered a heartbeat with a 3-percent showing.

Then a remarkable thing happened for the first time in the 20-month history of GOPUSA/Arizona polls: The numbers actually went down -- from 240 total votes to 75. And Pearce’s numbers dropped to zero.

Then the vote tally started racing wildly upward. In the next few hours, the vote total pushed toward 2,000. Flake was winning big and Pearce was staying at zero percent, even though his supporters informed me they were starting to vote for him -- and starting to wonder why their tallies were not showing up. In one 10-minute period, 100 new votes went up on the board.

The next morning, the vote total continued to balloon, reaching nearly 4,800. It had been less than 36 hours since the poll was posted on the Internet. Flake had a lead of 2-1 over Barnes, and Pearce registered a faint glimmer with one percent of the vote.

As emails started coming in from bewildered people watching the poll, GOPUSA’s CEO, Bobby Eberle, was alerted about the dubious nature of the poll. Whoever was tampering with this poll had all the guile of a Pampalona bull on its way to Barcelona.

A short time later, Eberle confirmed that someone had indeed hacked into the system. He advised that the poll be removed to get the hacker out of the system. A new poll was quickly posted. Over the next several hours, only a trickle of new votes came in on the new poll. Someone no longer had any interest in GOPUSA/Arizona polls.

Looking again at the bogus poll results, one more strange occurrence was discovered. The poll totals now sat at 4,514 votes, a decline of nearly 300 votes in the last few minutes. Flake had 2,880 “votes,” Barnes had 1,560, Pearce 66 and the “other” option had four votes. Whomever tampered with Flake’s vote total obviously took Barnes’ total up in an effort to make it look like a second contestant was registering believable vote totals. Nice try, but it didn’t work. Nice, illegal try.

The 4,514 votes represented a higher number than the total number of votes cast in all the GOPUSA/Arizona poll votes for the entire year of 2003.

Now the big questions: Who has an interest in the re-election of Cong. Flake? Who has an interest in undermining Rep. Pearce? Is the hacker just some kid down the street who likes to play games with other people’s websites? Was it a political organization or a political operative acting on someone’s orders? Who would care enough about this particular poll to risk a visit from the FBI for hacking?

The answers, as of this moment, are unknown, but the questions are legitimate.

As of Sunday night, Eberle had not responded to queries about whether or not he was able to discern the identity of the hacker, or if he had reported the crime to authorities.

One footnote: Just as Cong. Tom Tancredo concluded his address to the Arizona Republican Assembly in Scottsdale Saturday morning, the power went out in the auditorium. Russell Pearce was in that room; he had introduced Tancredo. Two Tancredo’s is two too many for some people.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; arizona; bushrovefox; illegalaliens; karlrove; nationalsecurity; tancredo
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To: international american
He needs to get Congress to repeal the Campaign Finance Regulation on free speech, too.

Campaign Finance Regulation-Campaign Finance Reform thread-day 40

21 posted on 01/20/2004 10:23:53 AM PST by The_Eaglet (Conservative chat on IRC: http://searchirc.com/search.php?F=exact&T=chan&N=33&I=conservative)
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To: VU4G10
Read later.
22 posted on 01/20/2004 10:32:17 AM PST by EagleMamaMT
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To: joesnuffy

                                                                                     bla bla bla

23 posted on 01/20/2004 10:39:58 AM PST by VU4G10 (Have You Forgotten?)
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To: VU4G10
Tancredo favors border controls; the president and many in Congress do not.

If the second sentence is BS, the rest is most likely worse. No thanks.

24 posted on 01/20/2004 10:46:20 AM PST by PRND21
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To: VU4G10
Screw Karl "Wormtongue" Rove.

That's right, Karl, you go to HELL!

I hope this Pearce dude runs, I'll send him money and maybe even go to AZ to walk for him.
25 posted on 01/20/2004 10:46:44 AM PST by StoneColdGOP (McClintock - In Your Heart, You Know He's Right)
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To: WhiteGuy
Rove, the president’s senior advisor, is attempting to find someone to run against Cong. Tancredo in this year’s election.

And the author's source for this is . . . ?

Oh, that's right. He made it up out of his head. Or maybe he saw it on an internet message board, right there with the internet polls he thinks are so important.

MORON!

26 posted on 01/20/2004 10:55:16 AM PST by JohnnyZ (This Week in Senate Races: David Beasley (Y), Katherine Harris (N), Gary Hart (?), and Dan Blue (?))
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To: goldstategop
Karl Rove is asinine. If he's a political guru, he knows the American people are against amnesty and blatant giveaways to illegal aliens. Tom Tancredo and Russell Pearce mirror the national mood on the subject. Too bad the President won't give them the time of day.

This about sums it up.

27 posted on 01/20/2004 10:56:27 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: goldstategop
If he's a political guru, he knows the American people are against amnesty and blatant giveaways to illegal aliens.

That should have been evident to Rove after Davis was recalled. He must think the WH is immune to negative public reaction.

28 posted on 01/20/2004 11:21:37 AM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: The_Eaglet
"Campaign Finance Regulation-Campaign Finance Reform thread-day 40

I am on the daily ping list.
29 posted on 01/20/2004 11:22:59 AM PST by international american (support our troops...........................revoke Hillary's visa!!)
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To: goldstategop
bttt
30 posted on 01/20/2004 11:25:19 AM PST by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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To: VU4G10

Looks metrosexual to me in this pic.

31 posted on 01/20/2004 11:28:49 AM PST by putupon (Who dropped a KarlRove in the punchbowl at the Republican Party?)
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To: VU4G10
Sounds to me like Tancredo supports the President overall but does differ and intends to oppose him on the Guest Worker issue..... Here's a comment from him made at his appearance in Arizona a couple night ago......

When asked about his response to the outpouring of support in Cochise County, including the push for the man to run for president of the United States, Tancredo smiled and replied, "I love the people here, they are just wonderful to me."

And while he appeared to relish in the thought of a presidential bid, when addressing the crowd later in the evening, Tancredo told the group that his support for President Bush runs much deeper than the immigration issue.

"The fact is the president and I are at odds on this issue I never came to Congress with the thought in my mind that I would be arguing with my president from my party," Tancredo told the crowd. "But you can disagree with the president without being disloyal because this is a basic fundamental difference about how we view the future of the country and despite supporting the president this is not a fight I will walk away from."


32 posted on 01/20/2004 11:58:29 AM PST by deport
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To: VU4G10
bttt
33 posted on 01/20/2004 1:00:50 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Tancredo for President 2004 /Russell Pearce for Congress 2004)
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To: PRND21
Funny, isn't it, that Karl Rove is the bogeyman over at DU as well? Our RealOnlyTrueConservativeConstitutionalPatriots TM here on FR are tongue kissing the leftwing DU cockroaches with increasing regularity as this election season goes on. Not a bit of difference between a paleo third party nutjob type here and a flaming Trotskyite nutjob type there. Both want Bush gone, and a Democrat in, come November 2004.

Same individuals, in some cases, I would surmise.

My, aren't we in for some fun this next 9 months? It'll be like carrying Rosemary's baby.

34 posted on 01/20/2004 1:17:22 PM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: ArneFufkin
It won't be that bad.


35 posted on 01/20/2004 1:32:48 PM PST by PRND21
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To: PRND21
It's thirteen days and counting, and the furor over a Presidential proposal remains unabated here at FR.*

God forbid any of the torturously aggrieved would transition their emotive power toward a strategic approach to forestall the hateful measure in congress: not when there's opportunity to denigrate President Bush and worship the Second Coming of the Lord Almighty on Earth, Thomas (Backbencher) Tancredo.

Jeff Flake should kick his ass, showing him up like that.

*Comedy Central

36 posted on 01/20/2004 1:41:53 PM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: Bikers4Bush
Rove, and the RNC, should put every resource available toward vaporizing Tancredo from his House seat for pulling that b.s. on Jeff Flake. It just shows what destructive, useless backstabbers the lunatic fringe immigration bunkermonkeys are.
37 posted on 01/20/2004 1:48:15 PM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
That should have been evident to Rove after Davis was recalled.

So true. Arnold only beat McClintock senseless by a 48-13 margin. Boy, that'll put the fear of God into ya. Broken knuckles and so forth.

38 posted on 01/20/2004 1:50:40 PM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: hollywood
AZ ping
39 posted on 01/20/2004 1:51:00 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: putupon
Karl Rove-What an Ass-Bump

Karl Rove Does NOT Speak for ME!

40 posted on 01/20/2004 1:52:39 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (I argue as passionately on FR against ILLEGAL ALIENS as I would if Gore, not Bush were President.)
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