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Grand Canyon Made By Noah's Flood, Book Says (Geologists Skewer Park For Selling Creationism)
San Francisco Chronicle ^
| January 8, 2004
| Julie Cart, Los Angeles Times
Posted on 01/08/2004 7:21:37 AM PST by Scenic Sounds
Edited on 04/13/2004 2:45:24 AM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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To: Alamo-Girl
The fact that social science has been historically incompetent says nothing about its ultimate reach. We are just a couple hundred years from a similar situation in physics, and a couple hundred more from the beginning of competence in astronomy.
Mathematical imagination is uniquely suited for scientific speculation, but it only becomes descriptive of reality to the extent that it predicts observable phenomena.
521
posted on
01/19/2004 12:02:11 PM PST
by
js1138
To: js1138; betty boop; Doctor Stochastic
Thank you for your reply - but I strongly disagree with this statement:
Mathematical imagination is uniquely suited for scientific speculation, but it only becomes descriptive of reality to the extent that it predicts observable phenomena.
Mathematical - and especially geometric - statements have been discovered long before there was a hint that such existed in the observable, physical realm. The classic example was Einstein's being able to pull Riemannian geometry off the shelf. This mysterious quality of mathematics is why so many are Platonist and why Tegmark asserts a Level IV of parallel universe.
To: betty boop
yet science does not appear to be the proper tool for the job of explicating or describing 
Science may not have all the answers now, but given an unlimited amount of time..........
523
posted on
01/19/2004 1:10:27 PM PST
by
Dataman
To: Alamo-Girl
I think my statement, as it stands, does not contradict yours: Mathematical - and especially geometric - statements have been discovered long before there was a hint that such existed in the observable, physical realm .
524
posted on
01/19/2004 1:56:06 PM PST
by
js1138
Placemarker
To: skinkinthegrass; KevinDavis; anymouse; RightWhale; Brett66; boris; Central Scrutiniser; ...
Hi All! Got some great news!!!
Physicist has a new addition to the family! :-)
Sophie Rhiannon Sterner was born this morning at 9:58 AM, pink and screaming. She was 7 lbs 2 oz, 20 inches long.
To: RadioAstronomer; Physicist
Physicist has a new addition to the family! :-)Wow, Congrats Physicist. Thanks for the flag RA.
527
posted on
01/19/2004 7:01:12 PM PST
by
farmfriend
( Isaiah 55:10,11)
To: RadioAstronomer
Great News! Great name ... a goddess!
528
posted on
01/19/2004 7:01:19 PM PST
by
MHGinTN
(If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
To: RadioAstronomer
She was 7 lbs 2 oz, 20 inches long.Is it my imagination, or are babies bigger these days.
529
posted on
01/19/2004 7:02:27 PM PST
by
Cold Heat
("It is easier for an ass to succeed in that trade than any other." [Samuel Clemens, on lawyers])
To: wirestripper
Is it my imagination, or are babies bigger these days. I wouldn't have a clue! I never had children. :-)
To: RadioAstronomer
Congratulations!
To: Dog Gone
Not to me! To Physicist! :-)
To: RadioAstronomer; Physicist
Sophie Rhiannon SternerRhiannon ---- Welsh Witch! --- Devilution/Evilution ---- Rock Music Worship ----> Wicked Witch of the West --- I'm melting!
To: RadioAstronomer
Well, that's different. Knock up your wife, lol.
To: Physicist; RadioAstronomer
Hey! That's just great!
Congrats to you and your wife, Mr. Sterner. And cool name BTW ;)
Thanks for the ping, RA
535
posted on
01/19/2004 7:20:01 PM PST
by
BMCDA
To: RadioAstronomer
congratulations!
The joy of life!
God bless!
536
posted on
01/19/2004 7:22:48 PM PST
by
bonesmccoy
(defend America...get vaccinated.)
To: Physicist; RadioAstronomer
Congratulations!
My wish is for you to love her and be proud of her for as long as you live!
And thanks for the announcement, RA!
537
posted on
01/19/2004 7:23:37 PM PST
by
balrog666
(Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.)
To: Hunble
No supporting factual evidence has been presented of an occurrence of spontaneous generation. "spontaneous generation" or the rise of life, from non-life(or order from disorder...contra the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics), is only maintained by atheist evolutionists, not any kind of creationist (be they theistic evolutionists, old earth creationists (my position), or young earth creationists).
Only atheists must maintain an uncaused cause...starting everything (life included) in the universe.
You've got your evidence exactly backwards...
To: RadioAstronomer; Physicist
Congratulations Physicist!
539
posted on
01/19/2004 7:41:30 PM PST
by
Calpernia
(Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
To: bonesmccoy
To Physicist :-)
I am a messenger boy. :-)
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