Terri Schiavo update: Judge Baird's is OFF case.

Hospice Patients Alliance ^ | 1-5-04 | Ron Panzer

[cpforlife.org]

This is a Hospice Patients Alliance Special Update Jan 5, 2004, sent out periodically to inform the public about news affecting hospice and end-of-life care.

We have just confirmed that ALL of Judge Baird's cases, INCLUDING the suit by Michael Schiavo v Gov Bush related to the Terri's Law, challenging its constitutionality, HAVE been transferred to Judge Nelly Khouzam. This information came directly from Judge Khouzam's assistant. Judge Khouzam is known to be a "by the book" tough, but fair judge.

For a little about Judge Khouzam see:

"Diminutive judge sits tall behind the gavel" Northpinellas St Petersburg Times 12/29/2002 http://www.sptimes.com/2002/12/29/NorthPinellas/Diminutive_judge_sits.shtml

The court is NOT explaining why the judges were suddenly switched, except to say that "judges rotate from time to time." We believe it might have something to do with:

Local PINELLAS COUNTY COURT BAILIFFS AND COURT EMPLOYEES WERE TAKING BETS ON WHETHER TERRI WOULD DIE OR NOT!!!

It was widely reported that Judge Baird made reckless and prejudicial comments in support of Greer and Felos and against Jeb's lawyers way before he had heard the evidence from the Governor's attorneys.

In other words, Judge Baird's comments are the likely reason local Pinellas County employees were doing "inside betting" that the local Pinellas County Judges would back each other's poor and constitutionally illegal decisions against Terri's constitutional rights and thus overrule Jeb Bush and Terri's Law. The 6th Circuit Judges are upset to have anyone tell them they are morally and legally wrong...... whether it's constitutionally illegal or not to murder Terri.

Conducting inside betting on the case is a severe violation of the code of conduct for court employees! Whether that is, or is not, the reason the judges have been switched, the very important change in judge can be extremely significant to what happens to Terri. We are hoping that Judge Khouzam will give the Gov a fair hearing in the case and allow the discovery he sought (which was denied by Baird). If Judge Khouzam allows some discovery as requested by Gov Bush, it could make all the difference!

You heard it hear first!

Ron Panzer President, Hospice Patients Alliance http://www.hospicepatients.org

[msmagoo]

"Come to think of it, I think the Pinellas county judges should be examined by Dr. Hammesfahr, as I suspect a major epidemic of Mad Cow disease there."

ROFLOL! CJD is a terminal illness, too....

[msmagoo]

GRETA is covering the Schiavo case next!

*PING*

[msmagoo]

FEEL LOUSY is on too....

[msmagoo]

Connor says the case is headed for the FL Supreme Court.
FeelLousy says court is waiting for appeals court to rule on a couple issues.

FL says Terri will die in a "painless manner" - Connor disputes that - asks why MS did not tell civil jury Terri wanted to die in this manner.

FL getty weepy about Terri's "civil rights being violated." (GAG)

Connor mentions NO WRITTEN directions.

Any money left? Greta asks.

No, FeelLousy says. "Not a penny," says Felos.

Connor points out "hundreds of thousands of dollars" back when MS began these proceedings.

Connor mentions Terri may be medicated when Greta asks how she is now.

Felos says no medication - "No cerebral cortex - no awareness - nothing can help this poor girl."

Connor says if he and Bush can get this before a jury they will try to get it heard in US District Court.

(Go Federal - that's new info! msmagoo)

[cyn]

Ken Connor said if lose locally will take to the supremes -- FL and US

[txrangerette]

Saw it. Connor was ok, only wish
he had revealed MS's personal info
to deflate Greta & Felos's attemot
to tab him as "Terri's husband".

Gag me - the truth must out!

Was wondering about Jeb's rights
being trampled. Connor did say,
first FL then U.S. Supremes. My
question on an earlier thread has
been answered.

Hey, & they showed her responding
to her mom - over & over again.

That was terrific!

[msmagoo]

Yes, that was good news - US District Court is Federal and would involve rights of a disabled person under the ADA - also the right to due process, right to trial by jury, and duty of the court to "err on the side of Life" (I hope.)

[txrangerette]

ping to #366

[msmagoo]

Did he say US Supremes? I was trying to type and listen, so might have missed it. He did say US District Court, which means it could end up in the lap of SCOTUS. Whoa!

[The Red Zone]

As far as a competing State right and Terri’s right to life and the State right to protect that right (I would describe it as more a duty rather than a right) I would have to argue that in this case it is no longer a valid question.

If so, "the law is an ass."

[The Red Zone]

No, FeelLousy says. "Not a penny," says Felos.

"Well, not in THAT pocket. What, you want to know what's in the other pocket? No Fair!"

Anyhow, even if this is taken at face value, if Mikey would just cede to the Schindlers with a "hold harmless" agreement, there would be plenty of funds coming in from the public.

[HiTech RedNeck]

If so, "the law is an ass."

Quite so. Late-recalled anecdotes of hearsay are much too slender a reed to bear the moral weight of ceding the right to life. The kind of anomic autonomy that dlds so learnedly cheers is from the pit of hell. Who cares if there's lots of "precedent": it's just like your example of the finely German engineered train carrying the victims to Auschwitz.

[msmagoo]

LOL Let's see those hands, Felos. No crossies!

On another thread, I read that Demers has vetoed Wolfson's reappointment as Terri's guardian.

Circuit judge turns down Bush request for Schiavo advocate

[msmagoo]

"Late-recalled anecdotes of hearsay are much too slender a reed to bear the moral weight of ceding the right to life."

Well said!

[m4629]

There is also a big difference between no money left in Terri's account and No Money Involved. Felos only talked about the first half. There is Big Money involved.

Just ask Mikey how much he paid out of his own pocket for the birth delivery of his 2 kids with Jodi and, or how much it costs to insure the kids and Jodi under a typical "basic family plan" over the next 18 years.

I don't imagine Mikey's employer's insurance is so generous as to cover the kids and Jodi while Mikey is still married to Terri. Therefore, in order to sign up his new family, Terri must die.

That's Big Money Felos didn't talk about.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Therefore, in order to sign up his new family, Terri must die.

Or, divorce

[m4629]

You are right HTR.

But I don't think Mikey wants to take a chance on Terri ever pointing a finger at him. But if she could do it down the road, it would be cute to see a video of Terri flipping Mikey the bird.

[daylate-dollarshort]

...and what, pray tell, do you think of bald allegations with no reference to fact at all?

[floriduh voter]

That lovely smile on the split screen debunking Felos while the words were spewing out of his mouth.

I believe in the end, if need be, President Bush would sign an Executive Order/Pardon to save Terri's life.

[floriduh voter]

Yes, Felos is balding. Bad comb over imo.