Pope wants new international order to keep peace

Reuters | January 1, 2004 | Claire Soares

[HAL9000]

VATICAN CITY, Jan 1 (Reuters) - The world needs a "new international order" to solve its conflicts and ensure peace, Pope John Paul said in his New Year's Day address on Thursday.

The ghosts of 2003 -- when the United States invaded Iraq without United Nations approval -- dominated the pope's first speech of 2004.

"More than ever we need a new international order which draws on the experience and results of the United Nations," the 83-year-old pontiff said at a mass in St Peter's Basilica.

"An order which is capable of finding adequate solutions to today's problems, based on the dignity of human beings, on integrating all society, on solidarity between rich and poor countries, on the sharing of resources and the extraordinary results of scientific and technological progress," he added.

Speaking at Christendom's largest church, the pope urged people not to lose hope of finding peace in the Holy Land, which the Vatican feels is vital to winning the war on terror.

"The land in which Jesus was born sadly continues to live in a dramatic condition. And in other parts of the world sparks of violence and conflict have not been extinguished either. But we need to persevere and not bow to the temptation of losing hope."

Turning to Africa, the pope paid tribute to his Burundi ambassador, Michael Courtney, killed on Monday in an ambush the army has blamed on rebels who have refused to join a peace process to end a 10-year conflict.

"(He) was tragically killed...while he was going about his mission of promoting dialogue and reconciliation. We pray for him and hope his example and sacrifice will bear the fruits of peace in Burundi and the world," the pope said.

The leader of the world's one billion Catholics, who suffers from Parkinson's disease that makes it difficult for him to talk, seemed alert and read all of his homily in a clear voice.

But it is unclear what 2004 holds for him. For the first time since his election in 1978, the pope enters the new year with no firm plans for travel, although there have been some invitations.

He was particularly weak on his last foreign trip, a visit to Slovakia in September, when aides had to read most of his addresses for him.

[onyx]

The TROLL is been given the ZOT.

[razorbak]

The Bible is clear that there will be wars until the end of time. Peace will not come on earth until the Prince of Peace comes to earth. In fact, the Bible even teaches that wars and impending wars will increase in frequency and intensity just before Christ returns.

(Mat 24:6 KJV) And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. (Mat 24:7 KJV) For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. (Mat 24:8 KJV) All these are the beginning of sorrows.*

*The word sorrows is translated from the Greek word meaning "labor pains." Labor pains increase in frequency and intensity as the time of birth draws near.

Those who will control the last final attempt at "one world government" will be the ones who are allied with the Antichrist.

[DeepDish]

After my previous post I checked CAtholic Family Association's page. It appears that his account has been suspended. Did he draw zot ealier and has since been restored or did the mods just now shoot the guy in the back.

[onyx]

I had been reading along, (reading sinkspur's excellent comments) and just when I had "had it" with the troll, ZOT it was gone.

[endthematrix]

"The UN is a debating society and its predecessor, the League of Nations, fail(ed) on the big issues."

I wouldn't sweep away the UN yet. It is a pebble in your shoe that one day will render you lame. Some visualize world peace, I see world police.

[Bluntpoint]

You jump in. You shout "basher!"

You then exercise your moral vanity by long, tiresome posts that no one reads.

You then take your leave because you are late for Mass.

Ten people email me declaring you to be one of the biggest blowhards and want-to-be bullies on FR.

Then I go back to my farm work.

Nothing very fearsome.

[G.Mason]

"Speaking for yourself?"

Not being a politician, or a religious leader, I never speak for anyone else. ;)

[ninenot]

Yeah. It was damn fortunate for us that Luther, Zwingli, et al, invented physics, mathematics, and metaphysics.
/sarcasm

[Bluntpoint]

Enter at your own risk of damnation!

[ninenot]

Cap'n, you ask whose side Sinky is on...

You're gently kidding him, of course. Sinky is a pure anti-nomian--one who resists and resents authority. Another model (far more depraved than Sinky) is Rembert Weakland, still acting like the syphilitic Worm here in Milwaukee.

Sink could also be described as a knee-jerk "patriot,"--one of those to whom America is right, no matter what--except that Sink's major arguments are usually fought on moral fields.

He despises Right Order, in brief.

[RiflemanSharpe]

With all due respect to his Holiness, the Americans and the British already have that covered. After more then a decade of doing very little to control terrorism. We have decided to hunt them down an take them out.

[ninenot]

It is worth noting that Cap'n is used to the utilization of force, including deadly force, in his daily occupation--and seems to be recalcitrant about using it.

Sinky, on the other hand, is an IT industry guy with a Seminary background--no military (or at least he hasn't talked about it.)

Hmmmmmmm.

[ninenot]

On another thread, a poster who had lived in Egypt for a number of years and who, as a result, spent solid time in a number of MidEastern countries, summarized thus:

'The Middle East does NOT have a middle class....there are the very rich and the very poor...'

JPII seems to understand this, perhaps because his knowledge of the world is a little better than yours.

Think about that possibility--that JPII's information sources are better than yours.

[sinkspur]

'The Middle East does NOT have a middle class....there are the very rich and the very poor...'

What does this have to do with anything?

[sinkspur]

Sinky, on the other hand, is an IT industry guy with a Seminary background--no military (or at least he hasn't talked about it.)

This seems to be some sort of snide ad hominem that has nothing to do with anything.

[sinkspur]

He despises Right Order, in brief.

More ad hominems. WRONG ad hominems to boot.

[sinkspur]

Dr. Kopp apparently got himself banned, AGAIN.

The boy just can't behave himself, it appears, even for a few hours.

[GirlShortstop]

Dr. Kopp apparently got himself banned, AGAIN.

Sink perhaps you will explain this please:  when I click on his CAtholic Family Association name, it pulls up his [blank] about page, on which the FR links work.  There's not a "banned notice" that I've found.

[Cap'n Crunch]

Good morning.

I got knocked off line last night after my last post.

I'd like to thank the good Doctor (although it would appear he has been 'zotted') for expressing the way I feel about the situation with his posts.

I believe that if we do not listen to the Holy Father's message we will be living in a worldwide condition like we see in Israel/Palestine.

I also believe that we here in the United States need to look in the mirror and see what we are becoming and change it. If we don't then we won't need the Muslims to continue terrorism against us, we will self destruct. We do live in, and the Holy Father named it, a culture of death. Christianity is under attack in this country and hedonism is rampant.

The front page of the newspaper in my city today showed the first baby of '04. Illegitimate. The rate here in my city of illegitimacy is over 50%.

2004 ought to be very interesting.

[DallasMike]

See #519 t cure your ignorance as to he auto-da-fe.

See the dictionary to cure yours:

Noun 1. auto-da-fe - the burning to death of heretics (as during the Spanish Inquisition)