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I am not familiar with David Hope. And for the record, I disagree with him in this.

However, I do take exception to placing Tom Wright under the label of 'apostate bishop'. For the record, he does not, like so many in the ECUSA, believe that homosexuality is an acceptable and holy 'life-style choice.'

He states (by the way, in the same article where he is quoted in opposition to Bush and Blair) "If people's instinct leads them towards persons of the same sex then that is, like many other things in life, something with which a Christian has to wrestle rather than just saying, 'Well, if you feel that strongly, that's the way it should be'."

In his theological work he is fighting a mighty battle against the liberal, demythologizers of the past two centuries and he is doing so with some success. I am certain he would shy away from labels, but if he must be categorized, he would be a very conservative theologian and he definitely raises the blood-pressure of those on the religious left.

Personally I support Bush and Blair and the war in Iraq. But not without reservation insofar as I think that the way we handle ourselves in 'post-war' Iraq will tell more about the real character of our two nations. And I am confident that, despite Tom Wright's reservations, that character will continue to show forth.

But I am appalled at the kind of snide, unthinking and thoroughly uninformed commentary I have seen in this thread which is not only un-Christian, but, in my opinion, un-American. I was under the impression that our soliders are fighting and dying for the right of everyone to be able to freely express their opinions. I gather that in the brave new world so desired by many on this thread that dissenting opinions will no longer be tolerated.

I'll be right back after I slip on my asbestos overalls.

"But I am appalled at the kind of snide, unthinking and thoroughly uninformed commentary I have seen in this thread which is not only un-Christian, but, in my opinion, un-American. I was under the impression that our soliders are fighting and dying for the right of everyone to be able to freely express their opinions. I gather that in the brave new world so desired by many on this thread that dissenting opinions will no longer be tolerated."

Dear Child, no one physically shut up the stupid, morally bankrupt priest, even on this thread. He's perfectly free to continue to make his asinine, uneducated, knee-jerk Marxist comments, and he's free to do so BECAUSE we are tolerant and free ourselves.

But don't expect all of us to shut the F*ck up just because some left-leaning priest has uttered a few nonsensical words at us.

On the contrary, we are responding to his dementia with our *own* freedom of speech.

And we are responding in kind.

When a priest starts making absurd and outlandish comments such as "Blair is acting like a White Vigilante" then you can hardly expect us not to respond in kind, even though we are his moral and intellectual superiors who *could*, if we chose, behave on a much higher level than he is capable of competing on.

"Why is it that the religious left can not be roused to support action when humans are being placed into wood chippers for fun? What twisted brand of theology do these leftist hold to that they have compassion for a murderous thug, yet fear Christians, conservatives, and those who liberate a people? What scripture do they draw from to justify their hypocrisy?

The answer: They are POLITICAL first, religious second...these same leftist hypocrites supported NATO bombing of Yugoslavia, but when the American president is a conservative Christian republican, they suddenly find war abhorrent. They are indeed a low breed."

70 posted on 12/30/2003 6:58:30 AM CST by Impeach the Boy

Well said. The Marxist priests are perfectly happy to see evil regimes murder, rape, and torture the innocent. In fact, such morally bankrupt priests encourage such regimes by opposing those of us who would dare to put a stop to their evil and madness through force of our own arms.

There is surely a special place in Hell for such betrayers of the cross as these apostate priests who would perpetuate such evil by opposing the use of our own force to stop it, too.

I respectfully disagree with your analysis of at least some of the comments here. If David Hope had simply spoken as himself - taken off his collar and clerical shirt and said 'hey this is just my opinion' then he would have every right in the world to say whatever stupid thing he wanted to say. HOWEVER, when he is speaking as an Anglican Bishop he does NOT have that right, and is, to the extent he is making politically oriented comments, misrepresenting the Anglican Communion by doing so...