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The Real Reason Gaddafi Caved: Libya Wants the 2010 World Cup Soccer Final!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/africa/3234083.stm ^ | November 2, 2003 | Osasu Obayiuwana

Posted on 12/21/2003 4:55:39 PM PST by Gaetano

An encounter with Gaddafi

By Osasu Obayiuwana BBC Sport

Gadaffi was not keen to tackle serious questions

As the son of one of Africa's best-known leaders, it is not surprising that Al-Saadi Gaddafi's three-pronged foray into football continues to attract the headlines.

He is, permit the pun, juggling a lot of balls at the moment - a not-so-successful playing career at Italian Serie A side Perugia, a key role in leading Libya's 2010 World Cup bid and business interests at Juventus - through the Libyan Arab Foreign Investment Company.

When he visited Fifa's Zurich headquarters on 30 September, to submit Libya's World Cup bid, the fanfare heralding his arrival could have been mistaken for a Hollywood film premiere.

Surrounded by a coterie of Libyan officials and European aides, who wove a protective cover around him, Al-Saadi did little to unravel the mystique that surrounds his personality.

I had always wondered how Al-Saadi could reasonably cope with the various responsibilities he had taken on, so when a Libyan official invited me to his press conference - which took place at a nearby hotel later that day - I could hardly turn down the opportunity.

I had been promised that he would give frank and honest answers to any questions I may want to put to him.

But I subsequently realised that any chance of putting him on the spot will be frustrated by the 'rules of engagement' at the conference.

An English aide, who compered the briefing and called him by his official title of 'Engineer Al-Saadi Gaddafi,' said journalists would only be allowed to ask one question and would be entitled to only one answer - follow-up questions were forbidden.

Broken promises

The press conference was conducted mainly in Arabic and snippets of French, with the French answers being loudly translated at the same time as Gaddafi was speaking in Arabic, which made the mix of languages a rather interesting spectacle.

As the conference progressed, Al-Saadi pointed out that the English speaking audience had been left out and demanded that this be resolved.

But the English aide promised, to Al-Saadi's hearing, that I would have the chance to ask my questions and get my replies in English, which he used with little problems when presenting Libya's World Cup bid to Sepp Blatter.

Gadaffi is yet to make his league debut for Perugia

When the floor was finally given to me, I walked within touching distance of Al-Saadi and asked why anyone should take Libya's plan to co-host the 2010 World Cup with Tunisia as a serious proposal - after Fifa had ruled out the possibility.

Gaddafi, who was visibly taken aback with my question, bluntly refused to reply in English, which took things back to square one.

"Why should our plan not be taken seriously?. We have a viable plan which deserves consideration," he said with finality.

Ignoring the rule on follow-up questions, I asked him how he could realistically make a success of a demanding career with Perugia, while he travelled round the world to promote Libya's bid.

Again, I got a rather odd answer and an equally curious response from the audience.

"You know," said Gaddafi, breaking into English, "I am a professional player and trained for two hours before coming to Zurich to present our bid."

For reasons I am yet to fathom, the mainly Arab audience burst into applause as he finished his answer, ending the briefing on a rather confusing note.

Did I gain further insight into the mind of Al-Saadi? Your guess is as good as mine...

(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2010; gaddafi; libya; soccer
This is all about the Colonel's sons obsession with Calcio ! Maybe we could get Assad some tickets to the Champions League final
1 posted on 12/21/2003 4:55:40 PM PST by Gaetano
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To: Gaetano
Do they play soccer in North Korea?
2 posted on 12/21/2003 4:56:30 PM PST by BCrago66
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To: BCrago66
Yes they do. Notice how Kim started flipping out about the time South Korea was hosting the 2002 World Cup final.
3 posted on 12/21/2003 5:00:06 PM PST by Gaetano
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To: Gaetano
Let's get something straight. "Football" is what's on TV right now in my living room. Soccer, or Futbol, is what atheletes unfit for the NFL play. Anytime Gaddafi wants to come try out for a US "Football" team, I'm sure that any of our punters or kickers will be happy to kick his miserable ass...
4 posted on 12/21/2003 5:17:25 PM PST by yooper
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To: Gaetano
Uh...then he would have waited to cave in 2008.
5 posted on 12/21/2003 5:20:21 PM PST by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: Gaetano
Dubya has persuaded Pappa Gaddafi that the World Cup Soccer finals are his appropriate level of world-historical ambition.
6 posted on 12/21/2003 5:20:26 PM PST by Southern Federalist
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To: Gaetano
You say Ghadafi, I say Quadaffi...hehehe!
7 posted on 12/21/2003 5:29:26 PM PST by happydogdesign
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To: cake_crumb
FIFA (soccers version of the NFL) is deciding right now about where in Africa the 2010 World Cup will go. South Africa is the front runner. The 2006 final is in Germany.

By the way outside the US and Canada, futbol/calcio/fussball/football is about 1000 times bigger than politics to most regular guys.
8 posted on 12/21/2003 5:29:43 PM PST by Gaetano
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To: Gaetano
Oh I know...it can make or break a national leader. I used to be a huge fan, back in the days of Pele.
9 posted on 12/21/2003 5:34:22 PM PST by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: jjbrouwer
Soccer Ping

Cameroon and Nigeria would kick Libya's ass, no chance for the cup.

10 posted on 12/21/2003 5:37:04 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (En la boca cerrada, no entran moscas)
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To: yooper
Hey, don't diss soccer, I'm sure that a good proportion of NFL players couldn't and kick for 45 minutes straight without barfing their lungs out. Same goes for them trying to play rugby, without pads...
11 posted on 12/21/2003 5:39:55 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (En la boca cerrada, no entran moscas)
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To: Central Scrutiniser
Nigeria blew their chance of hosting when they went on that murderous rampage during the Miss Universe thing. But yes, they and Cameroon can certainly play well.
12 posted on 12/21/2003 5:43:35 PM PST by Gaetano
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To: Gaetano
Gadhafi sure fooled me!

I was convinced his offer to disassemble Libya's WMD programs, coupled with his announcement today that Israel should now follow his lead was a very well crafted ploy to either weaken Israel (long suspected of possessing nuclear weapons), or manipulate world opinion to view Israel as a WMD nation. To think this is really about a soccer.
13 posted on 12/21/2003 6:32:29 PM PST by backtothestreets
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To: Gaetano
Mmmmmm the BBC... hahahahahahahha
14 posted on 12/21/2003 8:31:02 PM PST by pattycake
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To: Gaetano
"I had been promised that he would give frank and honest answers to any questions I may want to put to him."

Is this idiot serious?

I fear he may be.

15 posted on 12/21/2003 8:38:59 PM PST by blackbart.223
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To: Gaetano
Here is a more realistic reason why Gaddafi folded. 'Cowboy' W had the goods on him and he knew it! I searched and didn't find this posted anywhere else.

Revealed: the real reason for Gaddafi's WMD surrender
By Julian Coman and Colin Brown
(Filed: 21/12/2003)

Libya's promise to surrender its weapons of mass destruction was forced by Britain and America's seizure of physical evidence of Col Muammar Gaddafi's illegal weapons programme, the Telegraph can reveal.

United States officials say that America's hand was strengthened in negotiations with Col Gaddafi after a successful operation, previously undisclosed, to intercept transport suspected of carrying banned weapons.

The operation is said to have been carried out under the Proliferation Security Initiative (PSI), an international, American-led scheme to halt the spread of WMD by seizing them in transit. The PSI was first mooted by President George W Bush in May but was not officially launched until September.

Last week, a senior official from the US State Department confirmed that the PSI had "netted several seizures", although he refused to give further details.

President Bush and Tony Blair had praised Libya's decision to give up its WMD and allow international inspectors to oversee their destruction.

Mr Bush described it as a "wise and responsible choice" while a statement issued by the Libyan foreign ministry said that the country had agreed "of its own free will" to destroy its unconventional weapons.

The PSI operation, however, added decisively to the pressure already brought to bear on Col Gaddafi by America and Britain as they prepared to attack Iraq in March.

One Cabinet minister said: "It demonstrates that change can be brought about by standing tough. There is no question that this change of heart by Gaddafi was brought about by the fact that the US and Britain were seen to be standing up to and called Saddam Hussein's bluff."

The Travellers Club in Pall Mall, beloved of spy novelists and frequented by senior officers in the intelligence services, was the venue last week for the final breakthrough talks between MI6 and Libyan intelligence officials.

British immigration rules were discreetly changed to allow the Libyans to enter the country on visas. Three Libyan officials met a four-strong British team led by William Ehrman, the director general of defence and intelligence at the Foreign Office, and including two MI6 officers, to agree the text that would be read out on Libyan television on Friday night.

Mr Blair was forced to wait until the Libyan statement had been taken down by the BBC monitoring unit, translated and its contents checked to make sure they tallied with the agreed text before he was given the go-ahead to make his announcement in Durham during the 10pm news broadcasts.

The Government is hoping that the capture of Saddam, the collapse of the European Union constitution talks, and Col Gaddafi's commitment to surrender WMD will boost Mr Blair's standing with his own backbenchers.

"It has been a triple whammy and there is a sense of success at the end of this year," said a Downing Street official. "It is important domestically, but it is also important internationally."

At a PSI conference in Washington last week, Paul Wolfowitz, the deputy secretary of defence, reminded the 16 member countries - who include France, Germany, Italy and Japan in addition to Britain and America - that the threat to global security extended beyond North Korea and Iran, the focus of recent pressure from Washington over their nuclear programmes.

"While PSI participants agree that North Korea and Iran are of particular concern, we know that our efforts cannot be confined to just any one or two countries alone," Mr Wolfowitz said.

Libya has long been in American sights over its acquisition of WMD. In June, John Bolton, the under-secretary of state for arms control and international security, warned that the regime was exploiting the suspension of United Nations sanctions after the Lockerbie trial.

"Since the sanctions were lifted, Libya has been able to be more aggressive in pursuing weapons of mass destruction. Libyan agents are trying to acquire dual-use technology. That is very worrying," he said.

The Libyan foreign ministry announced yesterday that it had already sent a team to Vienna to begin talks with the International Atomic Energy Authority, the UN nuclear watchdog.

The official Libyan news agency, Jana, last night quoted Col Gaddafi as declaring that his statement on WMD was "a courageous step which deserves the support of the Libyan people".

16 posted on 12/21/2003 10:47:36 PM PST by JohnBovenmyer (I)
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To: Gaetano
Well these people may want the World Cup for Soccer; but that does not say it all; for sure.

Wasn't it Iran who wanted to host the Olympics?

17 posted on 12/22/2003 5:03:17 AM PST by cricket
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