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U.S. raises terrorism threat level - Ridge: Possible attacks could rival 9/11
CNN.Com / U.S. ^ | Sunday, December 21, 2003 Posted: 4:10 PM EST (2110 GMT) | CNN.Com

Posted on 12/21/2003 1:15:58 PM PST by Bobby777

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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
I see America as a team, and as a family. It is disgraceful, in my opinion, to think there are many on our team who aren't doing their part.

"A wise man hears of trouble coming and prepares for it. If that trouble does not arrive, he's still much better off because of it."

41 posted on 12/21/2003 2:00:24 PM PST by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: Young Rhino
"I'm sooo glad that Tom Ridge, a loser who couldn't even deliver Pennsylvania for Bush in 2000, is justifying his paycheck by making this c.y.a. call. What an @ss."

Sadly many Freepers have bought this Smoke and Mirrors show by Ridge hook line and sinker:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1044443/posts
42 posted on 12/21/2003 2:01:59 PM PST by Pubbie (* Bill Owens 2008 *)
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To: P8riot
You'll be fine. Don't worry. It is all in His hands.
43 posted on 12/21/2003 2:02:03 PM PST by sarasota
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To: cake_crumb
Well...if they believe there's credible a threat, don't tell us so we can be happy in our innocent ignorance, and it DOES happen, what do you think will be the result?

As far as I'm concerned, the ultimate imminent threat was delivered on 9/11/2001. That was our wake-up call. Anyone who hasn't been on constant vigilance since that fateful date hasn't been paying attention.

And once again I point out: what is the purpose of these warnings when all the public is told to do is "be vigilant" and "go about your business as usual"? Hell, anyone with half a brain should appreciate the need to be vigilant since we were caught asleep at the switch on 9/11.

44 posted on 12/21/2003 2:02:50 PM PST by Prime Choice (Leftist opinions may be free, but I still feel like I'm getting ripped off every time I receive one.)
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To: livius; All
Ordinary passengers can do a lot in thwarting nutcase agendas. Regular citizens can report anything suspicious.

Just yesterday or on Friday here in PBC, someone walked into a mall with a gasmask on. I heard that little blurb on the tv, as they were evacuating the mall. I don't know how it turned out, or what the guy was doing.

I'm going to dinner in a minute, but wanted to add this:

Down here on FL beaches, there are days when signs warning of sharks in the water are posted. Most people avoid the water on those days. Some do not. From my experience as a rocket scientist, those maintaining vigilance on the sand rarely suffer sharkbite injuries.
45 posted on 12/21/2003 2:04:41 PM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (If you think you are too small to be effective, you have never been in bed with a mosquito.)
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
"I am just becoming a little tired hearing people whining or laughing and ignoring the Alert System. It is in place for them. The goal is protection from nutcases with murderous agendas"

Me too. They're been doing this since - well, because the funds were held up by Daschle and Comapany until November, 2002 and Ridge wasn't even sworn in until January, 2003 after a last ditch effort by the Dems to delay it further - since long before there WAS an Office of Homeland Security to begin with.

It's been tiresome for almost two years. Up until November 2002, there was an idiot or two a week screeching "WHAT ABOUT HOMELAND SECURITY?? WHAT'S THAT IDIOT RIGE DOING ANYWAY??" even though there WAS no Office of Homeland Security at the time.

Now that there IS an Office of Homeland Security, they've switched tactics to demanding performance and exactness that no agency is even capable of. Only thing I can think of is the whiners and bashers are leftist trolls. Leftist trolls aren't much different from the nutcases with the murderous agendas.

46 posted on 12/21/2003 2:04:55 PM PST by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: concerned about politics
Exactly. See my #45
47 posted on 12/21/2003 2:06:11 PM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (If you think you are too small to be effective, you have never been in bed with a mosquito.)
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To: ItsOurTimeNow
The terrorists throughout the world, including al-Qaeda, have their credibility on the line now. After the capture of Saddam Hussein, the Americans suddenly appeared to be invincible, all standing ten feet tall, marching with a fearsome resonance around the world. The Islamofascists have got to make some show of defiance, a desperate gamble that they might make stun the Americans once again, as they did on 9/11.

The greatest calamity that could have happened to al-Qaeda was that they WERE so successful on September 11, 2001. Nothing they have done since has been even remotely comparable, and they had no means to deliver a second strike. The Americans, once alerted, have (with a few notable exceptions) been relentless in the determination to root out and eliminate the inequity visited upon this country.

It is significant that this upsurge in chatter, immediately after the seizure of Saddam Hussein, came at a time when the nation as a whole is standing down for Hannukah-Christmas-Kwanzaa-Bacchanalia holidays at the winter solstice. Be alert on your way to the office party.
48 posted on 12/21/2003 2:07:01 PM PST by alloysteel
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To: Bobby777
I am very, very thankful that George W. Bush is President of the United States.
49 posted on 12/21/2003 2:08:03 PM PST by Savage Beast ( "Whom WILL the TERRORISTS vote for? - - Not George W. Bush, THAT'S for sure!" ~Happy2BMe)
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50 posted on 12/21/2003 2:11:27 PM PST by Sweet_Sunflower29 (If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em with bull$hit!)
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To: Bobby777
Death to the TERRORISTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They have declared WAR on free countries!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
51 posted on 12/21/2003 2:13:38 PM PST by chuckr
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To: Bobby777
I think they get free seats, but only a fraction of the flights have a marshall.
52 posted on 12/21/2003 2:13:50 PM PST by expatpat
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To: ItsOurTimeNow
I just fear that too many of these warnings will end up jading the public, and eventually no one's going to pay ANY attention to it.

If the public becomes jaded then those in the public who become jaded are at fault.

The government is simply telling us that the volume of threats is "significantly higher" and that the threats are coming from known sources but that there was "nothing site-specific."

Or should the government protect us from such horrible but vague information because we the people can't be trusted with such information else we might become jaded?

Oh please nanny government protect me from myself because I may become jaded.

That's what you are saying??

53 posted on 12/21/2003 2:14:34 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Bobby777
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54 posted on 12/21/2003 2:15:22 PM PST by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: cake_crumb
We can't have it both ways. First people harangue the president for "knowing" the WTC and Pentagon would be targeted on 9/11 and not telling anyone, THEN they gripe because warnings are issued when there's a threat. It's a holiday. The threat level always rises over holidays.

These people are a buch of whinny whinnied, whinnying whinnies. Sheesh!

55 posted on 12/21/2003 2:17:42 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Bobby777
Text of Ridge Comments on Threat Level

By The Associated Press

December 21, 2003, 2:50 PM EST

Text of comments Sunday by Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge announcing elevation of the national threat level, as transcribed by FDCH e-Media Inc.:

RIDGE: Good afternoon.

Today the United States government raised the national threat level from an elevated to high risk of terrorist attack or, as more commonly known, from a yellow code to an orange code.

We know from experience that the increased security that is implemented when we raise the threat level, along with increased vigilance, can help disrupt or deter terrorist attacks. The U.S. intelligence community has received a substantial increase in the volume of threat-related intelligence reports. These credible sources suggest the possibility of attacks against the homeland, around the holiday season and beyond.

The strategic indicators, including al-Qaida's continued desire to carry out attacks against our homeland, are perhaps greater now than at any point since September 11, 2001. The information we have indicates that extremists abroad are anticipating near-term attacks that they believe will either rival or exceed the attacks that occurred in New York, in the Pentagon, in the fields of Pennsylvania nearly two years ago.

Recent reporting reiterates -- and this is a constant stream of reporting -- that al-Qaida continues to consider using aircraft as a weapon. And they are constantly evaluating procedures, both in the United States and elsewhere, to find gaps in our security posture that could be exploited.

Our actions, our considerable actions, are directed against their efforts. We have not raised the threat level in this country for six months. But I remind everyone, we have raised it before.

Homeland security professionals and security professionals at all levels of government -- federal, state and local -- as well as the private sector, are hard at work to increase the security in your community, state and across the entire nation.

Americans should know that along with this announcement comes action. A specific plan goes into place as we speak. Most importantly, we share specific information with those who need it and who can act upon it.

Already, I have spoken to the nation's governors, our homeland security advisers, several mayors and other local officials, and asked them to review the security measures they currently have in place and to increase protections to thwart terrorist attacks. And they are doing so.

In addition, we have made calls to officials from states and major cities, and will continue to do so, throughout the past week, reminding them to be on a heightened alert. And now we've called upon them to increase their levels of security.

Leaders in the private sector that control resources critical to our country, they'll be contacted today and provided with very specific measures for them to take to protect those resources and the communities in which those resources are located.

Where appropriate, we have also shared information with foreign countries, to enlist their help in combating these terrorist threats.

All federal departments and agencies are implementing action plans in response to the increase in the threat level.

We have enhanced security at our nation's airports and around other transportation systems and infrastructure. We will redeploy agents and other resources at our borders to meet the current threat. There will be more Coast Guard air and sea patrols off our shores, in our ports and escorting ships.

Now, obviously, I will not outline all of the actions that are being taken to protect our citizens. We will not broadcast our plans to the terrorists. But extensive and considerable protections have been or soon will be in place all across the country. I can assure you that your government will stand at the ready, 24 hours a day, seven days a week, to stop terrorism during the holiday season and beyond. Now, in addition to knowing that homeland security professionals at all levels are working to keep our communities safe, we do ask individual Americans to do a few additional things during this time of heightened alert.

I have said many times before that homeland security begins at home. I guess it means I'm saying it again. Your awareness and vigilance can help tremendously. So please use your common sense, and report suspicious packages, vehicles or activities to local law enforcement. Go over your family emergency plans, and if you haven't developed one by now, please do so.

These kinds of precautions, we think, just make good sense. I can tell all of you, from personal experience, that those of us who were affected for several days during the hurricane season were glad to have done some advanced planning to prepare.

Now, for those traveling during this holiday season, let me thank you, in advance, for putting up with some inconveniences. As we learned during the Thanksgiving holiday, additional security measures sometimes require additional patience. I think we did a pretty good job keeping things safe and not too slow at our airports. And we believe that, with your cooperation, the same will be true in the coming days and weeks. And finally, no matter your faith or your culture, we know that now is the time of year for very, very important personal and family and community celebrations. So I encourage you to continue with your holiday plans. Gather with your family and friends and enjoy the spirit of the season.

There is no doubt that those of us fortunate to live in this country have a lot to be thankful for, not the least of which is the opportunity to live in the greatest country in the world. America is a country that will not be bent by terror. America is a country that will not be broken by fear. And instead, America is a country blessed with citizens marked by goodwill and great resolve.

We will show the terrorists both during this holiday season: goodwill toward our fellow men and readiness and resolve to protect our families and our freedoms.

Thank you.

QUESTION: Can you detail the types of chatter that you're talking about when you saying you're getting more information about threats during the holiday season? I know last week, there was some discussion of a female suicide bomber in New York City. Is this the type of thing that you're hearing?

RIDGE: First of all, we heard the reporting, saw the reporting about the suicide bomber, and that's something we're obviously very concerned with, because it's a tactic that's been employed around the country, but we have no independent confirmation of that particular reporting. But nonetheless, we continue to hear, one, the interest in using aircraft as a means of attack. Two, there's continued discussion -- again, these are from credible sources -- about near-term attacks that could either rival or exceed what we experienced on Sept. 11. And I would say and reiterate that I think not only the volume of reporting is up, but from several credible sources. So we take a look at the scope of the reporting, the volume of the reporting, the credibility of the reports, and say now is the time that we put into plan -- we put into action the plans that we have developed during the past several months. It's been six months since we put these plans into effect, and we just ramped them up again.

Q: Are you saying, Secretary Ridge, saying the chatter is up? The highest it's been since Sept. 11 is a pretty dramatic statement. But how would you compare it to, say, the orange alert that you called last February, when there were CIA reports saying an imminent attack was probably about to happen, and obviously didn't? But how would you compare it to that time? Is the chatter more serious, is it more intense?

RIDGE: Well, I think the level -- again, I don't recall numerically, quantitatively, that time, but any time the federal government goes from yellow to orange, orange back down to yellow, there's a consensus within the intelligence community that not only the volume, but the credibility and the kind of reporting merits us to either raise or lower the level of threat. So I think it's more important to focus on the fact that there is that consensus within the intelligence community that we go up.

Q: In the past, there's been certain events, though, such as Iyman Faris being arrested that led to a sudden concern over the Brooklyn Bridge being blown up or the wires being cut. Has there been some specific event, in terms of somebody being collared in recent weeks? Has it been the boat that was intercepted, that had drugs and also several alleged al-Qaida members, by the Navy?

RIDGE: First of all, with regard to Iyman Faris, I think that highlights a very good point. It was reported that it was he that said, "Gee, when America goes up and there's added security or added levels of prevention, we're inclined to deter or postpone those attacks." And that's one of the reasons we do go up.

No, I think it is really the overall -- the credibility of sources pointing toward near-term attacks in the United States. And it's really the scope and the volume of the reporting and the number of credible sources.

Q: What about interception with the al-Qaida members? Are they providing any information that would have helped sort of go into the mix here?

RIDGE: Well, you know, that's a process of interrogation. And if and when they do, and if it's actionable, we would share it with the right kind of people but not discuss it publicly.

Q: With security already so high at the airports, I mean, why is there continued concern about airplanes being used as weapons or bombs being put on them? I mean, I think, Americans would think our airports are petty secure right now.

RIDGE: I hope they do, because we think the aviation is far, far more secure from the curbside to the cockpit. I mean, they are layered, comprehensive, defensive measures, baggage screeners which are now professional. We armed hundreds, we're going to arm thousands, of pilots. We've got hardened cockpit doors. We've got thousands of federal air marshals.

But again, since there is a recurring theme that we have heard echoed again during the past couple of weeks, it's part of the reason we go up. We have a substantial level of security at the airports, but we can ramp it up a little bit more when we go to orange, and that's precisely what we do.

But make no mistake about it, aviation is far more secure than it's ever been in the history of the country.

Q: Are you also hearing more about heightened problems for Americans abroad? And are you giving any warnings there, specifically?

RIDGE: Well, I think any intelligence relating to activity or heightened threat to Americans abroad, as you know, is -- those warnings are issued from the State Department. And I'd refer you to the State Department on those.

There have been a couple that have been out there, obviously. And whether or not, based on the intelligence that we are reporting on -- that is, as it relates to threats to the homeland -- I'd refer you to the State Department to see if they're going to add any additional warnings to the international sector.

Yes?

Q: You touched on this briefly, but what are the implications for people that are traveling over the holidays? Are they going to see different things at airports, at bus stations, et cetera?

RIDGE: I think they will undoubtedly see additional security at airports. We are going to ask the traveling public to do the same thing they did in helping us as they did during Thanksgiving. We're not going to compromise security. We are going to add more security. But if they do a couple of things during the course of their travel, they will expedite things. I mean, take all those items out of your pocket and put them in that tray. Take the computer out of the case. Take the coat off. There are a lot of little things that they can do so we can move things along.

But if you've got travel plans, travel. I mean, we've had a lot of people working on this for the past couple of days that had some travel plans, and we encourage them and everybody else, just travel.

Q: What about traveling to New York City? I mean, that's obviously a city that's been hit before. Are these threats directed at specific American cities, or is it just incredibly broad over the entire nation?

RIDGE: Well, first of all, I think it has been reported before -- and I think it comes as no surprise -- that New York and Washington have been, are, and undoubtedly always will be some of the most high- profile targets in this country.

Secondly, I think I've said before, I doubt if there is a city that is better prepared, more on alert, that has devoted more resources to prevention and security than New York City. And they probably have a lot of other mayors and police chiefs doing the same thing. So, no, this is not specifically directed at New York. Basically, they are always at an elevated state of security and prevention. I mean, that's just how their mayor chooses to operate. And, you know, Chief Kelly, Mayor Bloomberg, Gov. Pataki, they've committed the resources to make sure the citizens and visitors are protected, and they'll continue to do that.

Sir?

Q: Mr. Secretary, is the reason why you're making this a national -- you're raising the threat level nationally, is it because you don't have a specific or specifically targeted cities? You have, again, just, sort of, chatter that's not really directed in any particular place?

RIDGE: Yes, we have reviewed -- and again, it's not surprising that some of the same

venues come up. I mean, there are always -- they talk about New York and Washington, and it's predictable that, if they're looking for a - if they're talking about a terrorist attack of the same or greater dimension than on 9-11, I mean, you naturally, I think, gravitate toward the larger urban areas. And so, to make sure that we enhance security across our major metropolitan areas, we go up.

Q: President Bush has said in the past that the war on terror has greatly hampered al-Qaida's ability to communicate within its network. What does it say that now you believe that chatter is at a greater point than any time since 9-11?

RIDGE: Well, first of all, I think the president's assessment is correct. I mean, we've decapitated or imprisoned from one-half to two-thirds of the known leadership. We've literally taken off the table, for their use, probably a couple of hundred million dollars by freezing those assets. Those that were in leadership have been dispersed, so the communication is more difficult.

So, in reality, all those -- that may be the reason that it has been so long. I'm not going to speculate. But remember, we haven't raised this level of alert for over half a year. But make no mistake about it. The president has said this is -- we have to be -- we are in this for the long term. That in spite of the extraordinary success of the military and the CIA, the cooperation with our allies, the apprehension or death of a lot of the principals and the freezing the assets, that this is still an international war, international terrorist cells, including al-Qaida. And the fact that we are picking up information that results in us going to orange, I think, is a reflection of increased capacity, probably on our side, not necessarily greater ability on theirs.

Q: Do you have any indication that the increased chatter has anything to do with the capture of Saddam Hussein last week?

RIDGE: There's no nexus that I'd be prepared the draw now. I mean, there are several fronts of the war on terror, and capturing Saddam Hussein is of great significance to this country's international effort to combat terror. But we don't see any nexus, with regard to the reporting, that causes us to raise -- any connection that causes us to raise the threat level.

Q: With all the talk about going to orange, was there ever any discussion, was the level of chatter ever serious or high enough that you thought of going to red?

RIDGE: When we convened those that we get together and have the discussion about the quality of the information and the kinds of actions we should take, whether or not we go up to orange or whether we go to more specific actions, no. I mean, but, again, I think it's very important to note that ever since 9-11, from the early morning hours when the president meets with the intelligence community and the attorney general and the FBI director and everybody else, there's been a continued focus not only on the war on terror abroad, but the war on terror and its impact in the United States.

Twice a day, the intelligence community meets to review the intelligence of the day and how it relates to intelligence that they've acquired before. And so, it's 24-7 since 9-11. And, again, the convergence of the quantity, the quality and the credibility and the scope and the notion that there are near-term attacks of a scope that's equal to or greater than those that occurred on 9-11 -- there was a general consensus within the community now is the time to go up.

We got action plans, specific things people going to do at the federal, state and local level. We'll give specific directions to certain segments of the private sector.

I mean, I just want Americans to understand that we have, literally, thousands and thousands of homeland security professionals out there who, based on going to orange, will do additional things. There is an additional risk, and we are going to do additional things to combat the risk.

Thank you very much.

56 posted on 12/21/2003 2:18:48 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Prime Choice
You've been told WHY there's a need for the warnings by several posters on this thread, including me. I'll try one more time: WE HAVE TO KNOW. PERIOD. IF WE DO NOT KNOW WE CAN NOT PROTECT OURSELVES OR OUR FAMILIES.

In case you're ignorant of the way the world worked prior to 9/11/01, various intelligence agencies received thousands of threats per week and were drowning under tons of paperwork which had to read, interpreted, deciphered or all of the above, correlated, confirmed as far as possible, then concatenated and then disseminated to the agencies who stood the best chance of interdicting.

AFTER 9/11/01, various intelligence agencies receive thousands of threats per week and are drowning under tons of paperwork - even with more employees to handle the information flow - which has to read, interpreted, deciphered or all of the above, correlated, confirmed as far as possible, then concatenated and disseminated to various groups with the best chance of successful interdiction. The difference, after 9/11/01, is that NOW YOU KNOW ABOUT IT. PREPARE. This isn't WWII, this is a large group of people, living in the shadows actively working toward destroying the Western world because they're power crazy. Think of millions of Hitlers. Millions of Stalins and Saddams. Now YOU and I are PART of the agencies to whom A TINY, MINISCULE PART of this data is disseminated, because we might have a chance of stopping it.

How can traditional LEO agencies can possibly keep you perfectly safe without your vigilance and help?

57 posted on 12/21/2003 2:18:57 PM PST by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: All
Alright, in response to those attacking the "CYA alert," what would you have Bush do....keep everything quiet and never say anything when there is an increase in chatter?

Then if something happens, we will never hear the end of "What did Bush know and when did he know it?"

Yes, this gets old and nobody pays attention.....not many did even after the first alert. But, it is much better to have said you did give a warning than nothing at all.
58 posted on 12/21/2003 2:23:00 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("Men stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up as if nothing had happened." Churchill)
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To: cake_crumb
You've been told WHY there's a need for the warnings by several posters on this thread, including me. I'll try one more time: WE HAVE TO KNOW. PERIOD. IF WE DO NOT KNOW WE CAN NOT PROTECT OURSELVES OR OUR FAMILIES.

And how does changing the color and being told to "go about your business as normal" PROTECT YOU OR YOUR FAMILY? Please enlighten me 'cause I'm dying to know.

My take: these panic attacks do nothing to make either America or its citizens more secure. All it does is drive the markets down, create longer lines at airports, and does NOTHING to enhance security on any level.

Meanwhile, we leave our borders porous-to-open. Then our own direction of Homeland Security talks up blanket amnesty for ILLEGAL aliens (you know...the sort who let their visas lapse and stay in America...JUST LIKE THE 9/11 ATTACKERS). Add to that the idiocy of Political Correctness that prevents us from profiling Muslim males between the ages of 17 and 43 who came to America from Arabic nations.

And you think these warnings are making us any safer? I got news for you, sunshine.

59 posted on 12/21/2003 2:24:36 PM PST by Prime Choice (Leftist opinions may be free, but I still feel like I'm getting ripped off every time I receive one.)
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
And you are absolutely correct. I'm tired of them too. When did we quit taking responsibility for ourselves and our families. The warnings are there for us so that we are aware. What we do with them is another story. I know if we were traveling this season we would hve to make our decision one way or another. What do some people expect Homeland Security to call us on the phone and tell us who, what, when, where and how?

Hey, when it comes down to the bottom line it's up to everyone to protect themselves. I'd rather have the warning with nothing happening than to not have it. I think we should be grateful instead of complaining and whining all the time about what "someone else" should be DOING for us. It gets old...really old I agree.

Merry Christmas.
60 posted on 12/21/2003 2:24:37 PM PST by cubreporter (I trust Rush...he will prevail in spite of the naysayers)
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