Regarding Freeper Obit. TrappedInLiberalHell and Depression

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[joesbucks]

The problems of depression and despair.

[Johnny_Cipher]

You don't love my recipe threads?

Speaking only for my noobye self, I don't "love" them either for the simple reason that you obviously have a great gift for cooking and food preparation. Meanwhile I can't boil water without (expletive)ing it up and/or burning the house down around my ears. So its simple jealousy on my part - you have your gifts and I have mine.

Boston Market has kept me from starvation more than once :)

[ChemistCat]

How many Opuses does one sour-o-puss get?

[cyborg]

Don't let the door hit ya where the Good Lord split ya

[Clara Lou]

wallow in depression
Obviously, you've never been there. Your phrase "to wallow" indicates a derivation of pleasure from wallowing in something. Depression includes an inability to enjoy anything meamingfully.

[x]

And yet, it's at Christmastime when so many people are most depressed. That may have much to do with all the secular-commercial-consumerist hype or the Winter solstice and the relative absence of light, but it does seem like religious sources of good news and solace don't always do the job in relieving depression.

I don't disagree with what you say about the power of faith or belief, but it does look as though the message of salvation or deliverance doesn't always heal. It would be interesting to see if the association of holidays with depression holds up in other countries.

It's doubtful that Christmas-New Year's was widely regarded as a sad and overwhelming time of year before all the media-commercial build-up. Perhaps the "true meaning" of Christmas wouldn't cause sorrow, but it does seem like the conviction that one must be happy and part of a happy family at a particular time of year can make unhappiness worse.

I don't disagree with you that one needs a source of inner strength and that it can be found in the Bible. But I do remember how college kids who were chronically happy, whether for temperamental, evangelical, or pharmaceutical reasons, drove their normal or moderately depressed roommates up the wall.

[cyborg]

Someone woke up and found pee instead of milk in their cheerios.

[Dane]

I have been monitoring these two threads and will add my 2 cents worth, FWIW.

Suicide is not noble. I can empathize with TILH's situation, but taking one's life and the pain it causes to his loved ones, in which they will be internally taking the blame for LITH's sucide for years is an inherantly selfish act.

Maybe it is the way our society morphed, where only "me" matters.

Prayers to TILH's family and loved ones.

[ChemistCat]

Most wonderful story I've read on any of these threads.

Thanks.

If anyone reading this missed post 177, please read it.

[Burn24]

Thank you for posting this. I'm sure there are many people like me who are carefully reading these depression threads without posting, so please keep up the good work.

I have a depressive in my own family and have been trying so hard to get through to her, to talk about the problem, but nothing seems to work. So, unconditional love it is, until hopefully things get better.

[cyborg]

There are many meds for depression, depending on severity of the case. I find the schadenfreud from bad Hillary Clinton pics to be more effective. Laughter is best medicine!

[spodefly]

It is hard for me to factor that someone could actually go through with plans to off themselves. As my Dad has said, suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. Plus, even if we live to be 100, that is a tiny speck of time in the big picture.

I suppose this means that I have never actually been clinically depressed, even though I have certainly had dark periods in my life.

If someone is feeling down, even suicidal, and it is related to some event (or events) that have recently occurred, that is natural, and one has to stick it out and get thru to the better days. If depression appears randomly, or doesn't subside after a time, then getting professional help seems to be the only answer. If there truly is a chemical imbalance in your brain, you cannot will it, pray it, or exercise it away.

The most depressed I ever got was about 10 years ago when in a period of a week I was laid-off from the job that I had moved to a new city for, my girlfriend (and her child that I had become incredibly attached to) left me, and my Mom was diagnosed with aplastic anemia and given a short time to live. I had to sell my car, move to a small apartment, and was running out of money and living in a town where I knew no one. My mornings would begin with me leaning against the wall in the shower and sobbing uncontrolably and not get a whole lot better from there.

This lasted for a couple of months, and only started to subside after I began vigorously riding my mountain bike for hours at a time and working out every other day to exhaustion. Within a couple of months I was in the best shape of my life at 32 years old, started taking project related jobs that were fun, and started to date again.

During the worst of that time, I did cast a glance or two at the gun cabinet knowing that I could make the pain stop any time I really wanted to. But even at that time I recognized that particular "solution" was an incredibly pathetic indulgence, and I never took it beyond that point.

I think I would have little advice to offer someone who was truly clinically depressed other than to go to a doctor and get help. To someone who is responding to events that have turned their life upside down, I would say, excercise, keep your mind right, and get the hell over it as soon as possible.

[EggsAckley]

I hear ya, too.

[cyborg]

There's another thread with less invective from yesterday.

[IronJack]

we shouldn't expect that our lives will follow the "exciting" and "entertaining" lifestyles that are portrayed.

I think this is especially true for women. Today's stereotypical heroine is a man with breasts. She's tougher than the bad guys, beautiful as a lingerie model, and smarter than Einstein's physics teacher. There's no room in there for femininity or a woman who just wants to make a good home for her children. If you ain't Lara Croft, you ain't squat.

Ain't very many women going to be Lara Croft. And the truth is, the bad guys would kick the crap out of her anyway.

The lesson? The images Hollywood presents are lies. Don't aspire to a lie.

[cyborg]

This poster doesn't understand suicidal people. I got the BEST advice from FReepers when I had posted about my depression and suicidal thoughts waaaaaay back when I first joined. If you consider someone a friend, you'll ask their opinion. It's not VANDALISM to tell FReepers that you feek bad.

[cyborg]

Go already! You need to stop stinking up this thread with your last gasp hostility.

[TheSpottedOwl]

Carlo, your food tastes like yak shit.

Arne, how come you know what yak shit tastes like?

[ChemistCat]

Ah.

I'm a wife and mother of three. I FReep with my family around. And they just got to read that threat of yours.

Some people on the internet make good on such threats. So I have no choice but to make sure that this information is available to law enforcement. If you are who I think you might be, you know how to find me.

Even if you are who I think you are in real life, I haven't done anything to you to deserve threat of "disembowling" or public humiliation. But you must be too sick to know that.