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1 posted on 12/12/2003 6:20:15 AM PST by Tolik
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2 posted on 12/12/2003 6:21:22 AM PST by Tolik
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A most excellent article.
3 posted on 12/12/2003 6:31:44 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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"The reason that states are not rushing to install imams as rulers or open their borders to al Qaeda training camps is not that they like democracy, but rather that they are just now beginning to fear the dire consequences of such action."

Not quite ready to meet their 72 virgins I guess.

4 posted on 12/12/2003 6:39:43 AM PST by Enterprise
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The war on terror is a war of wills, and Victor Davis Hanson makes great points.

However, we must stay the course and be very through in cleaning up every remnant of these terrorist cells and their feeder systems. It appears that it will be a never ending task.
5 posted on 12/12/2003 6:45:14 AM PST by RAY
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6 posted on 12/12/2003 6:50:07 AM PST by SJackson (Terror-I know the sense of helplessness, the urge to arm yourself, that's what I did- Sen. Feinstein)
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Excellent article, but Al Gore = George McClellan? Al Gore & Howard Dean = George McGovern. Wesley Clark = George McClellan. When Clark had the momentary lead, I was looking forward to a replay of the 1864 campaign.
7 posted on 12/12/2003 6:50:41 AM PST by Reo
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Brilliant.
8 posted on 12/12/2003 6:55:14 AM PST by MattinNJ (If someone says happy holidays to me, I say Merry Christmas to them.)
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Victor nails it again.
But before we start planning victory parades let's remember this war is going to be going on for a long while(decades?)
This is why the upcoming election ids so important. President Bush for all his faults, missteps MUST(imo) be reelected! The thought of Howrd the duck Dean(or any of the other moral midgets) moving into 1600 Pennsylvania ave. is enought to send me screaming into the night
9 posted on 12/12/2003 6:59:13 AM PST by Valin (We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give.)
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In the last two years our enemies have lacked not the will but the power to defeat us; we in contrast had more than enough power but not enough will.

Benjamin Netanyahu was asked to speak to a Congressional committee right after 9/11. He ended his speech by saying, The terrorists do not lack the will to destroy us. They lack the means. We have the means to destroy them, but we lack the will. Then Bibi went on to say that this war came down to a race to see if the terrorists got the means before we got the will.

11 posted on 12/12/2003 7:10:10 AM PST by carton253 (It's time to draw your sword and throw away the scabbard... General TJ Jackson)
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One of the best articles I've read in a very long time concerning our current historical context...

Thank you, Tolik, for posting this....

12 posted on 12/12/2003 7:11:02 AM PST by arfan (Think Critically... Act Decisively... Reflect Constantly...)
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Brilliant.
16 posted on 12/12/2003 7:25:05 AM PST by Celtjew Libertarian (Shake Hands with the Serpent: Poetry by Charles Lipsig aka Celtjew http://books.lulu.com/lipsig)
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Likewise, a struggle now exists for the heart and minds of Americans, to be liberal or conservative.
17 posted on 12/12/2003 7:25:45 AM PST by taxcontrol (People are entitled to their opinion - no matter how wrong it is.)
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Excellent article.
18 posted on 12/12/2003 7:25:49 AM PST by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch
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VDH once again hits the nail on the head: the chief factor that will determine the outcome of this war is the will of the US to fight, sometimes not by the Marquis de Queensbury rules, until our enemies are defeated. It is plain that Bush will continue to do so, but he can only do so if he is reelected. Despite all of the mistakes that he's made in other areas (Medicare expansion, signing the hideous CFR bill into law, his stance on the AWB, the assault on our civil rights under the Patriot Act), this area is the most critical. Unless we win this war, all the rest doesn't matter - because someday we'll wake up to one or more atomized US cities. If/when we win, all of the other mistakes can be fixed (and, if we are fortunate, they can be fixed while we are winning.

I point of curiosity: why is VDH writing columns and not advising the President on a daily basis?

19 posted on 12/12/2003 7:28:58 AM PST by Ancesthntr
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This is utter nonsense. We are engaged in the beginning of a multiple-decade war against an unconventional opponent using asymmetrical means.

Indeed, the case can be made that we have already lost--I have made it repeatedly here. We invaded the wrong country, insisting on "nation building", while our covert enemies obtain aid and comfort in Syria, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, etc. We have failed to secure our borders, take out the terrorist leaders and their supporters, or even make serious attempts to eliminate sleeper cells and moles on our territory.

Our chief of "Homeland (In)security" advocates amnesty for illegal aliens. We continue to issue visas to citizens of known terrorist nations; continue to educate them in our colleges and universities.

We are in deep denial. Eventually the reality will confront us again--when the Sears Tower comes down, or the Golden Gate bridge is demolished.

--Boris

20 posted on 12/12/2003 7:30:05 AM PST by boris (The deadliest Weapon of Mass Destruction in History is a Leftist With a Word Processor)
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Excellent article.
21 posted on 12/12/2003 7:33:04 AM PST by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch
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Baathists and al Qaedists hope to demoralize our electorate and bring in a Howard Dean or his clone and with him a quick American exit from Baghdad.

As usual, Hanson cuts to the quick.

A great article, by a great modern historian!

And if there were another September 11, then all voluntary restrictions on the use of the full extent of American power will be off — and the response would be too terrible to contemplate.

I don't think our enemies, either foreign and domestic (and I include the fellow-travelers in the Democrat Party), realize this fully. They will, if it happens!

24 posted on 12/12/2003 7:46:34 AM PST by Gritty ("if we have another 9/11, our response would be too terrible to contemplate"-Victor Davis Hanson)
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There are plenty of third-world revolutionaries today, but very few who wave the hammer and sickle.

Venezuela, Brazil, IIRC Ecuador, and parts of Colombia come to mind.

25 posted on 12/12/2003 7:55:06 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by central planning.)
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>>>>>>>>>In the last two years our enemies have lacked not the will but the power to defeat us; we in contrast had more than enough power but not enough will. But all that is changing as we ever so slowly become angrier while they get weaker.

Wow. VDH is someone I have to read 2 or 3 times. He's both deep and brilliant.
27 posted on 12/12/2003 8:02:34 AM PST by .cnI redruM (Dean wouldn't give you a reach around unless he had a razor hidden in his hand.)
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Obviously the most dangerous factor at the present time is the enemy within--the peaceniks, the leftist academics, the Democrats, the leftist media, the leftist entertainment industry--all working together in hopes that Bush will fail.

Before things improve they will very likely, as Hanson suggests, seem to get worse. Terrorist activity will increase. The Democrats and the media will pull out all the stops as November 2004 approaches. We must hope for a crushing Bush victory, because although Bush can be faulted on many subsidiary issues, he is clearly the better choice on the main issues: pursuing the war on terror, reforming our tyrannical judicial system, and rolling back the Culture of Death.
28 posted on 12/12/2003 8:04:01 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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