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Supreme Court Handing Down Ruling in Campaign Finance Reform (main parts upheld)
FOX News
| 10 Dec 2003
| FOX News
Posted on 12/10/2003 7:09:03 AM PST by July 4th
Reports that main portions of McCain-Feingold are now being upheld! People currently wading through a decision of over 300 pages.
TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bcra; blackrobedictators; bush; bushscotuscfr; cfr; elitisttyrants; firstamendment; freedomofspeech; mccainfeingold; nyt; oligarchy; restrictfreespeech; scotus; tyrannyofthefew
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
What alternative? They're the sameSo LAME. If you can't see the difference between the two, you're probably on the wrong site... Maybe the DU will be (is?) more to your liking?
To: Howlin
"And people think it's not important for Bush to be reelected?
We have GOT to get some of our people on THIS Supreme Court!"
Bush SIGNED the damn thing!
To: NYC Republican
Sure, place politics before principle and party before country. And who helped bring the country to this pass? You're looking at the current occupant of the Oval Office. Not that the Democrats are much better. The two parties have demonstrated the Constitution is the last thing they care about and now the SCOTUS has joined them in raping it.
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posted on
12/10/2003 8:08:38 AM PST
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: Howlin
Don't count on it. Things don't seem to be "breaking" our way lately.
Depending upon what Congress feels impelled to do they can change the wording of any section of this Act.... so if the Congress Critters feel a need for ads to be run prior to election day critizing candidates they'll rewrite the law....
Ups and downs.....
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posted on
12/10/2003 8:08:40 AM PST
by
deport
To: justshutupandtakeit
Some people think this is OK because we can always compete with ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, NY TIMES, WASH POST, LA TIMES and AP by starting an e-mail newsletter, blog or talking to a neighbor.
Oh yea, we can reach an audience that big???
If the media start telling lies and lies and more lies in the last 60 days.... we can respond with... a blog?
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posted on
12/10/2003 8:08:51 AM PST
by
GeronL
(My tagline for rent..... $5 per month or 550 posts/replies, whichever comes first... its a bargain!!)
To: Dane
I won't vote for Dean. So much for that inane comment.
Your heros passed the repeal of the first amendment, now you live with it.
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posted on
12/10/2003 8:08:57 AM PST
by
Protagoras
(Vote Republican, we're not as bad as the other guys.)
To: Protagoras
This nation will now JAIL those who criticize officeholders by use of paid mass media 60 days before an election. It's freaking legal in Russia, but not in the U.S. now. We are becoming a basket case.
This is exactly the speech that IS protected by the Constitution. I think this nation is basically "done".
To: MEG33
Molly can be countered by conservative columnists/speakers.I am a free citizen. I refuse to have a media surrogate foisted on me to do my speaking for me, especially on policial matters.
What Molly Ivins and George Will have that I don't have is a national platform from which to speak. The only way I can compete is to choose an entity that represents my views and join my contribution with the contributiuons of like-minded citizens to pay the enormous costs of getting that message out.
That right has now been denied me.
To: Timesink
Single issue petulance????
This is the CONSTITUTION we're talking about! It's hardly petty!
To: GeronL
What makes you think he won't appoint a moderate like O'Connor for the Supreme Court should an opening arise?? Mega bump question of the day after seeing this bill he signed be upheld.
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posted on
12/10/2003 8:09:54 AM PST
by
KantianBurke
(Don't Tread on Me)
To: Protagoras
Your heros passed the repeal of the first amendment, now you live with it Huh, Clinton SCOTUS appointess, Ginsberg and Breyer are not my heroes.
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posted on
12/10/2003 8:10:17 AM PST
by
Dane
To: Mo1; Catspaw
Well, CNN and MSNBC aren't even reporting about this, whatever that means.
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posted on
12/10/2003 8:10:27 AM PST
by
Howlin
(Bush has stolen two things which Democrats believe they own by right: the presidency & the future)
To: Howlin
But, hey, it will give some of these people MORE to complain about! Well, we don't want them to be bored huh?
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posted on
12/10/2003 8:10:51 AM PST
by
Mo1
(House Work, If you do it right , will kill you!)
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To: GeronL
A Republican Congress passed it and Bush signed it..... and this is why we need more of them?? You forgot to add, And a Supreme Court with 7 Republican and 2 Democratic appointees upheld it.
To: tomahawk
This is exactly the speech that IS protected by the Constitution. I think this nation is basically "done".No question. This is the end of the beginning. It starts now in earnest. Keep your powder dry.
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posted on
12/10/2003 8:11:20 AM PST
by
Protagoras
(Vote Republican, we're not as bad as the other guys.)
To: seamole
HUH? Soros? WROTE THE LAW? Guess I don't remember that little factoid.
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posted on
12/10/2003 8:11:43 AM PST
by
goodnesswins
(If Hillary RUNS for Prez........ahhhh....................I can't say it.....)
To: deport
Yes, Congress could (but won't) change the limit on free speech that this abomination of a law has brought...but the KEY lesson here is that the United States Supreme Court will UPHOLD ATTMEPTS BY OUR GOVERNMENT TO LIMIT FREE SPEECH..and that should send shivers down your spine.
To: Mo1
For the record, I'm not happy with this ruling But if you think for one minute that the Dems wouldn't have signed this or one worse then this .. Then you are just fooling yourself
True, but shouldn't the President have vetoed this bill? Wouldn't that be a better consolation?
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posted on
12/10/2003 8:11:46 AM PST
by
Sabertooth
(Credit where it's due: saveourlicense.com prevented SB60, and the Illegal Alien CDLs... for now.)
To: Dane
Opinion of THOMAS, J. breathtaking scope, the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002 (BCRA), directly targets and constricts core politi- cal speech, the ihprimary object of First Amendment pro- tection.ls Nixon v. Shrink Missouri Government PAC, 528 U. S. 377, 410R411 (2000) (THOMAS, J., dissenting). Because the First Amendment "has its fullest and most urgent application" to speech uttered during a campaign for politi- cal office,li Eu v. San Francisco County Democratic Central Comm., 489 U. S. 214, 223 (1989) (quoting Monitor Patriot Co. v. Roy, 401 U. S. 265, 272 (1971)), our duty is to approach these restrictions with the utmost skepticismls and subject them to the ihstrictest scrutiny.lt Shrink Missouri, supra, at 412 (THOMAS, J., dissenting). In response to this assault on the free exchange of ideas and with only the slightest consideration of the appropriate standard of review or of the Court"s traditional role of protecting First Amendment freedoms, the Court has placed its imprimatur on these unprecedented restrictions. The very purpose of the First Amendment [is] to preserve an uninhibited marketplace of ideas in which truth will ultimately prevail.ly Red Lion Broadcasting Co. v. FCC, 395 U. S. 367, 390 (1969).
Yet today the fundamental principle that the best test of truth is the power of the thought to get itself accepted in the competition of the market, breathtaking scope, the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002 (BCRA), directly targets and constricts core politi- cal speech, the primary object of First Amendment pro- tection. Nixon v. Shrink Missouri Government PAC, 528 U. S. 377, 410411 (2000) (THOMAS, J., dissenting). Because the First Amendment has its fullest and most urgent application to speech uttered during a campaign for politi- cal office, Eu v. San Francisco County Democratic Central Comm., 489 U. S. 214, 223 (1989) (quoting Monitor Patriot Co. v. Roy, 401 U. S. 265, 272 (1971)), our duty is to ap- proach these restrictions with the utmost skepticism and subject them to the strictest scrutiny. Shrink Missouri, supra, at 412 (THOMAS, J., dissenting). In response to this assault on the free exchange of ideas and with only the slightest consideration of the appropri- ate standard of review or of the Courts traditional role of protecting First Amendment freedoms, the Court has placed its imprimatur on these unprecedented restrictions. The very purpose of the First Amendment [is] to preserve an uninhibited marketplace of ideas in which truth will ultimately prevail. Red Lion Broadcasting Co. v. FCC, 395 U. S. 367, 390 (1969). Yet today the fundamental principle that the best test of truth is the power of the thought to get itself accepted in the competition of the market, Abrams v. United States, 250 U. S. 616, 630 (1919) (Holmes, J., dissenting), is cast aside in the purported service of preventing corruption, or the mere appearance of corrup- tion. Buckley v. Valeo, 424 U. S. 1, 26 (1976) (per curiam).
Apparently, the marketplace of ideas is to be fully open only to defamers, New York Times Co. v. Sullivan, 376 U. S. 254 (1964); nude dancers, Barnes v. Glen Theatre, Inc., 501 U. S. 560 (1991) (plurality opinion); pornographers, Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition, 535 U. S. 234 (2002); flag burners, United States v. Eichman, 496 U. S. 310 (1990); and cross burners, Virginia v. Black, 538 U. S. ___ (2003).
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