I am a genius!
1 posted on
12/09/2003 6:11:28 PM PST by
GeronL
To: JohnHuang2; Prime Choice; autoresponder; Travis McGee; Bullish; lowbridge; Lazamataz
BUMP for the new genius Proposal!!
This is a SERIES proposal!!!
2 posted on
12/09/2003 6:12:52 PM PST by
GeronL
(My tagline for rent..... $5 per month or 550 posts/replies, whichever comes first... its a bargain!!)
To: GeronL
Funny, I considered this once. Only problem I had was that I could not figure out how to split the civil court system. What happens when the liberal tort system sues the conservative tort system?
4 posted on
12/09/2003 6:23:55 PM PST by
Deek
To: GeronL
Perhaps you are a genius, but the liberals won't like it for several reasons.
Take for example concealed carry. What's in it for the liberals? They don't own guns so why do they care if they can carry? They aren't worried about their guns, only your guns so they still would want to ban them.
Take welfare. The liberals wouldn't like your plan of not taxing the conservatives. Liberals don't work for their money, they want your money to pay for their policies.
What about work practices? Suppose a liberal works for a conservative and demands his liberal two years maternity leave to care for his new child? Or, health care for his domestic partner John? And, besides all that, the conservative doesn't want to pay the liberal living wage of $20 an hour for a janitor?
How about a liberal married to a conservative? How are the taxes figured and the social services?
I got a better idea, let's just not elect liberals or make them all live in California.
To: GeronL
You are, in fact, a genius. I do have one little objection to your plan, though, namely, I don't think you really understand what it is to be a liberal. It doesn't mean "pay for what you get." It means "get what other people pay for and make them feel guilty about it to boot." You're gonna have to build that in. The guilt thing, I mean - "theft" covers the other thing nicely.
To: GeronL
I gotta admit. This ain't half bad.
One problem, tho: Let's say you've been a Conservative cardholder all your life. Old age is creeping up. You want free medical care, free prescriptions, to use the bus, library, etc.
You could just switch parties without having paid in.
11 posted on
12/09/2003 6:41:39 PM PST by
Lazamataz
(Hillary Clinton is a CLINQUANT without the LINQA.)
To: GeronL
I love it!
I can see the 'liberal' and 'conservative' tax buttons on all the cash registers all ready.
To: GeronL
The police, among others, will need to identify who is a libertarian at a distance, so as not to pull them over for speeding or other variances. To further this, each different faction will need to dress in a manner that identifies what they are.
Conservatives = very loose fitting plaid garments, white socks, black sandals.
Liberals = very tight clothes, solid colors, birkenstocks.
Libertarians = shorts, t-shirts, beanie caps, rubber boots.
21 posted on
12/09/2003 8:35:20 PM PST by
gcruse
(http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
To: GeronL
You ARE a genius, because this is similar to the kind of government we will have one day...
And that is "subscription" government.
It's long been talked about, it is definately the way of the future - the problem is getting tyrants (petty and not) to let go of their power. Even someone with very little power, such as someone on the library board, will fight like a rabid pitbull to keep from losing it - it must be wrenched from them.
23 posted on
12/10/2003 12:35:05 AM PST by
mansion
(Voting for the "lesser of two evils" is still voting for evil...)
To: GeronL
I am a genius!Yes, you are. This is also hilarious. So when and where do we start?
24 posted on
12/10/2003 12:48:35 AM PST by
bjcintennessee
(Don't Sweat the Small Stuff)
To: GeronL
Can't work, you over-looked the main staple of a liberal and money. They want to take it from YOUR wallet and not their own.
25 posted on
12/10/2003 12:51:55 AM PST by
A CA Guy
(God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
To: JohnHuang2
BUMP
28 posted on
12/10/2003 6:33:05 AM PST by
GeronL
(My tagline for rent..... $5 per month or 550 posts/replies, whichever comes first... its a bargain!!)
To: GeronL
The perfect government is a benevolent monarchy with myself as king, and I own all the guns.
35 posted on
12/10/2003 9:50:19 PM PST by
Timesink
(I'm not a big fan of electronic stuff, you know? Beeps ... beeps freak me out. They're bad.)
To: GeronL; MeeknMing
the Liberals could end up unprotected by foreign invaders....
...wait, that one might not be optional. ![](http://freepers.zill.net/users/nicmarlo_fr/FR/hahaolli.gif)
39 posted on
12/11/2003 4:37:01 AM PST by
nicmarlo
To: GeronL
Not a bad idea. Thanks for thinking, thanks for posting.
40 posted on
12/11/2003 4:42:02 AM PST by
PGalt
To: GeronL
I am a genius! No you're not. I'm the genius. I know because I have been testing my new improved form of government on friends and acquaintances for years and it freaks them out.
Every time. Shoot, some even stop talking to me and cross the street to avoid contact.
It is devilishly simpler too. To wit: nothing changes except for the UCTC (Ultimate Citizenship Trump Card). It is the result of the new method of voting. Anyone can vote at any time. Taxes can be raised without limit. The "progressives" can pass minimum wage laws of $50 an hour it wouldn't matter; they can pass "progressive" tax rates of 200%. Ditto.
The secret is the (SLUPD) (Spending List Under Penalty of Death). Here is where it gets interesting.
There is an official list of items that tax revenue can be spent on. It can be 10 items or 1000, doesn't matter. What does matter is this: Each individual taxpayer has the absolute right to choose which items on that list his taxes may be spent on. He can choose all of it to go to defense spending or to house indigent orphaned Spotted Owls. Or he can choose 10 items to support, or all 1000.
There is no limit to the amount of taxation, that makes the liberals happy.
There is no obligation to spend on items that violate individual conscience or common sense. That makes the conservatives happy.
What's that you say? What happens if, say, highways get 5 times the funding they need? Or the EPA gets 0.0001% of what "it" needs? Tough noogies.
It's a Democracy Baby!
43 posted on
12/11/2003 5:35:51 AM PST by
Publius6961
(40% of Californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
To: GeronL
Surely you don't think that any kind of government run by human beings will work for more time than it takes a gnat to wink.
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44 posted on
12/11/2003 5:36:52 AM PST by
William Terrell
(Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
To: GeronL
Sorry to break it to you, but this is not a very good idea.
This idea is based on the fact that Conservatives don’t want to pay taxes for the things that Liberals pay taxes for. So what happens when some Conservatives don’t want to pay taxes for what other Conservatives want to pay taxes for? The same thing will happen and Conservatives will be divided into 2 more groups. This will keep going on and on until you have hundreds of groups with their own unique viewpoints.
You can’t generalize people into groups like Republican and Democrat. Each individual has their own specific needs and their own specific views, so no two Republicans or Democrats are the same. This means the best type of government is either an anarchy or a libertarian, in which people have the absolute freedom to make their own decisions and pay only for the things that they need.
51 posted on
08/06/2009 4:24:21 PM PDT by
Pavlo
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