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Cruel Joke or Medical Anomaly?
UM List ^ | Tim Wilkins

Posted on 12/05/2003 5:50:56 AM PST by xzins

Cruel Joke or Medical Anomaly? Proponents of same-sex "marriage" owe us an answer

by Tim Wilkins

(part of this article may be unsuitable for young readers)

The Physiology of Mankind

"Love and marriage, love and marriage, go together like a horse and carriage. This I tell ya, brother, you can't have one without the other." Neither can you have a marrriage without a man and a woman, unless you’re the Massacheutts Supreme Court–to whom I ask the following question.

Why is one hundred percent of the homosexual population physiologically heterosexual?

When I asked that question before a group of university students, one said the question contained a presumption–that homosexuals were physiologically heterosexual. I am always open to differing views, yet he offered no explanation. In postmodernism one need not waste syllables buttressing one’s views—verbalizing a belief automatically makes it factual. Hubert Humphrey said, "The right to be heard does not automatically include the right to be taken seriously." The student reminded me of a man who, on another occasion, steadfastly disagreed when I said that at conception the man determines the sex of the child. "Every man has a right to his own opinion, but he does not have a right to his own set of facts."

My statement regarding human physiology is neither sexist nor politically motivated. It is a fact.

Look at this statement from two perspectives—first, a theological perspective and second, a medical perspective.

If in fact God creates some people as homosexuals, we must conclude that God has played a cruel joke on them. He has engineered their minds and emotions for attraction to the same-sex and yet created their physiology to be in direct opposition to that attraction. Such an act would be malicious. Only a sadistic god would conceive and conduct such a horrific deed.

Look at the statement from a medical perspective! If homosexuality is a naturally occurring phenomenon—a legitimate alternative to Mankind’s expression of sexuality, we would have to conclude that homosexuals bear severe physiological anomalies.

I am aware the previous conclusion may infuriate some; few things anger people more than uttering a logical thought. Truth has always angered people—which is why some wise sage cautioned, "Tell the truth and run!"

But alas I do not believe the conclusion because I do not believe homosexuality to be moral.

If for no other reason, homosexuality is illegitimate in that it is anatomically unsuitable.

The Ingenuity of the Physical Body

Regardless from where you believe Mankind originated, we must agree that the human body is the work of a genius. How do we account for tear ducts that automatically flush the eye when a microscopic grain of sand invades them? Who can fathom how an arm or leg produces chill bumps, which in turn raises the hairs on those limbs in order to reduce the amount of body heat being expended by a cold wind?

These mysteries of the human body include libido. When sexually aroused, the woman’s body changes through a series of preparations. Her vagina lengthens for a distinct reason. Her body, equipped with Bartholin’s gland, produces lubrication for a distinct reason. More intricate than any scientific invention ever conceived or constructed, the outer third of her vagina swells with blood for a distinct reason. The Psalmist was correct--we are "fearfully and wonderfully made." (Psalm 139:14)

But these incredible workings lead us to another question which refuses to be ignored--why would such physiological changes occur in homosexual women when the changes do nothing to assist sexual interaction?

One cannot simply dismiss the question as irrelevant. If God makes no mistakes, and He does not, what accounts for this dichotomy among homosexuals? If homosexuality is "natural" why the inappropriate and unnecessary body changes?

No legitimate answer exists. God desires each of us to become personally what He has created us to be physiologically, biologically and anatomically.

The Universality of Sin

The answer to why homosexuality exists is sin—a universal condition unconfined to homosexuals; one hundred percent of the world’s population are sinners. "…for all have sinned and come short of God’s glory." (Romans 3:23)

And the answer to sin is Jesus Christ who, by the way, performed His first miracle during the marriage of a man and a woman.

The proponents of homosexual "marriage" appear to have all the answers. What say ye? Is this phenomenon a cruel joke or a medical anomaly?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: form; function; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; physiology; prisoners
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To: adam_az
You really like Red Herring fallacies, don't you?
201 posted on 12/05/2003 12:55:05 PM PST by frgoff
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To: Dad was my hero
As with everything else, defects occur and decay sets in.

This appears to be demonstrable with birth defects wherein they've EASILY found genetic deficiencies, but is not the case with homosexuality wherein they have not found genetic deficiencies.
202 posted on 12/05/2003 1:02:37 PM PST by xzins (Proud to be Army!)
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To: xzins
No one really believes that homosexuality is genetically based. The argument is simply thrown out to defelct attention from their real faith, which is that ought out to be able to what one pleases sexually.
203 posted on 12/05/2003 1:05:52 PM PST by RobbyS (XP)
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To: Revelation 911
Only a sadistic god would conceive and conduct such a horrific deed.

We know this not to be the case - Our God sent His only divine Son to accept the sin of mankind....so that we may know the Father through Him

You never read the Old Testament have you, if the story of Job is not a sadistic act(s) by God and the Devil on an innocent man and everything he cares for including his family, than I don't know what is.

In the Old Testament, God is portrayed as being less than a nice person, to say the least. Now on the other hand (in the New Testament) Jesus, not God, is really nice person, but God is another story.

204 posted on 12/05/2003 1:13:53 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: RobbyS
No one really believes that homosexuality is genetically based. The argument is simply thrown out to defelct attention from their real faith, which is that ought out to be able to what one pleases sexually.

But there is some evidense that it can be traced to hormonal mix-ups during developement in the womb.

205 posted on 12/05/2003 1:15:49 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: xzins
That's true, no genetic evidence has been found yet. Some studies have claimed to find evidence leaning that way and they've been blown out of proportion by the media and touted as proof but as yet no evidence exists. But like the color of your eyes, different things that happen on the genetic level that the genes haven't been found. I don't believe they will ever find it but I try to keep up on the literature.

I think that right now the homosexual lobby has things where they want them. They want the public to believe no one would chose that so it must be genetic and the scientific community not pursuing an answer to it because they don't want to change if it can be corrected. Right now Americans mostly believe it is genetic, end of story. If it were science would be able to develop a test for it to find the marker and you could test for several different markers to decide if you want to carry your baby to term. They don't want that. So they have the best of all worlds right now.

206 posted on 12/05/2003 1:21:36 PM PST by Dad was my hero
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
Descartes philosophy is crap! And very non-Catholic!

You’re right — but he wasn’t wrong about everything. He was right about the subjective nature of sensory perception , for example. One needn’t buy the whole loaf when a slice is enough.

Skepticism is common amounf young atheists: “Eff Ah cain’t poke et with a stick, et ain’t real” is their credo. Descartes took skepticism as far as it could go, and found himself face to face with the Almighty. While I do not subscribe to the philosophy of Descartes in toto, his status as a doubter who found God makes him an excellent example for modern-day doubters.

207 posted on 12/05/2003 1:22:55 PM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: Paul C. Jesup
if the story of Job is not a sadistic act(s) by God and the Devil on an innocent man and everything he cares for including his family, than I don't know what is.

You don't know what is. Like you, I once judged God from my own earthbound, selfish, myopic perspective, so there is hope.

If you read the book, you'd know that the devil complained about God's special protection that was keeping Job safe and prospering him. Would you call that sadistic?

God prevented the devil from killing Job. Would you call that sadistic?

The devil killed his family. Does that make God sadistic?

God caused Job to prosper even more and gain a new family. How is that sadistic?

Little men have been sitting in judgment of God for centuries. Unless they realize their mistake now, they will realize it when God sits in judgement of them.

208 posted on 12/05/2003 1:25:42 PM PST by Dataman
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To: Paul C. Jesup
There is no difference between the God of the OT and the God of the NT. It's our perception that is changed by Christ's teaching and example. He chastises those He loves to the discipline of their spirits. He calls all people to Himself, some of us need a bit of a push, though.

God isn't sadistic in His allowing the devil to pile punishments on Job. God uses infirmity to His own design. His own design is that we put our faith in Him and no other. Some people in this world are offered by God to us as examples of what to do and what not to do. All reap a reward for their choices.

In the end, Job was restored. It wasn't just because God was rewarding him for his faith, it was primarily as an example to others of the rewards to those who persevere.

209 posted on 12/05/2003 1:26:41 PM PST by pgyanke (Big Bang Theory = First there was nothing...then it exploded.)
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To: adam_az
adam_az: Measurability and detectability are the proof for fact of existence.

B-chan: Really? Please prove it.

I’m still waiting for that proof…

210 posted on 12/05/2003 1:35:28 PM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: Dataman; Paul C. Jesup
Actually, I'm very comfortable with a god being able to take a created thing's life.

Specifically, I'm comfortable with my life being in God's hands. But that really isn't my call any more than the steer's call when the farmer takes it to market.
211 posted on 12/05/2003 1:35:30 PM PST by xzins (Proud to be Army!)
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To: Paul C. Jesup
Enough evidence for someone to propose a theory that can be tested? What we have got here is a sociological phenomenon which is unprecedented--so far as I know--in the history of the world: a community of homosexuals powerful enough to dominate our legal and political institutions. Of course, without the support of allied forces--principally the feminsists and the civil rights movment--it would not be so effective. As I implied gays share with all these communities a racially libertarian view of sexual practice. What has most disappointed me is that antinomian religious views have trumpted the efforts of many blacks to adhere to traditional Christian morality.
212 posted on 12/05/2003 1:35:48 PM PST by RobbyS (XP)
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To: adam_az
Male lesbian? Can not compute.

Oh come on, you've never heard of that before? It's a joke, son ;-)

213 posted on 12/05/2003 1:51:11 PM PST by TheSpottedOwl (I'd rather have dead rats in my walls, than Hillary for President.,)
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To: Paul C. Jesup
But there is some evidence that it can be traced to hormonal mix-ups during developement in the womb.

Not that I'm aware. Many studies have been done and many claims made, and everything points back to environment. I think you might find this informative:

How Might Homosexuality Develop? Putting the Pieces Together
From everything I've read I'd say the above is a good summary of the issues. Also of interest: Homosexuality and Genetics.
214 posted on 12/05/2003 3:16:05 PM PST by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: scripter; RobbyS
Not that I'm aware. Many studies have been done and many claims made, and everything points back to environment. I think you might find this informative:

You should research genitial defects, some very interesting stuff. Some of those studies have some interesting things to say about homosexuality.

I remember a couple of months ago, a study post here on FR that linked a hormone defect with lesbianism.

215 posted on 12/05/2003 4:03:49 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Dataman; pgyanke; xzins
Dataman: You don't know what is. Like you, I once judged God from my own earthbound, selfish, myopic perspective, so there is hope.

Sadistic actions are evil, no matter who does them.

God only made ameads when Job called him on his actions.

Pgyanke, There is no difference between the God of the OT and the God of the NT.

The entire approach of the NT is different than the OT, it is like in the NT they have forgot almost everything the happened before in the OT.

Xzins, Actually, I'm very comfortable with a god being able to take a created thing's life.

Xzins, Specifically, I'm comfortable with my life being in God's hands. But that really isn't my call any more than the steer's call when the farmer takes it to market.

Did it ever occur to you that God may not have the best interests at heart for you, me and the rest of humanity.

Total blind faith can lead you to a whole world of pain.

216 posted on 12/05/2003 4:12:50 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Paul C. Jesup
You should research genitial defects, some very interesting stuff.

I have done a lot of research on the issues, and each study that supports homosexuality is discredited, usually withing hours of it's release.

I remember a couple of months ago, a study post here on FR that linked a hormone defect with lesbianism.

While it's quite possible I missed one...if you have a link I probably have a link that discredits the study. The homosexual agenda is well known for fantastic headlines without any substance in the text.

217 posted on 12/05/2003 4:17:50 PM PST by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: scripter
I have done a lot of research on the issues, and each study that supports homosexuality is discredited, usually withing hours of it's release.

It all depends on who posts the study and who discredits the study. There are a lot of groups on boths sides that are very bias in their views.

The study itself it about fertility, but it does have some very interesting results: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/938085/posts

218 posted on 12/05/2003 4:23:20 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Paul C. Jesup
The entire approach of the NT is different than the OT, it is like in the NT they have forgot almost everything the happened before in the OT.

The story of the Bible is that of a progressive revelation of God, culminiating in his incarnation in Jesus. Even when reading of atrocities by the Israelites, don't forget what life ws like among the "heathens "of the time. I concede the differences between the Old and New Testaments. Christian heretics even went so far as to deny that Yahweh was the God of Jesus Christ, but the message of the New Testament is that Jesus was the deliverer expected by the Jews.

219 posted on 12/05/2003 4:26:12 PM PST by RobbyS (XP)
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To: RobbyS
The story of the Bible is that of a progressive revelation of God, culminiating in his incarnation in Jesus.

The NT yes. The OT no. The OT is a story unto itself.

220 posted on 12/05/2003 4:33:52 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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