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To: Revelation 911
Only a sadistic god would conceive and conduct such a horrific deed.

We know this not to be the case - Our God sent His only divine Son to accept the sin of mankind....so that we may know the Father through Him

You never read the Old Testament have you, if the story of Job is not a sadistic act(s) by God and the Devil on an innocent man and everything he cares for including his family, than I don't know what is.

In the Old Testament, God is portrayed as being less than a nice person, to say the least. Now on the other hand (in the New Testament) Jesus, not God, is really nice person, but God is another story.

204 posted on 12/05/2003 1:13:53 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Paul C. Jesup
if the story of Job is not a sadistic act(s) by God and the Devil on an innocent man and everything he cares for including his family, than I don't know what is.

You don't know what is. Like you, I once judged God from my own earthbound, selfish, myopic perspective, so there is hope.

If you read the book, you'd know that the devil complained about God's special protection that was keeping Job safe and prospering him. Would you call that sadistic?

God prevented the devil from killing Job. Would you call that sadistic?

The devil killed his family. Does that make God sadistic?

God caused Job to prosper even more and gain a new family. How is that sadistic?

Little men have been sitting in judgment of God for centuries. Unless they realize their mistake now, they will realize it when God sits in judgement of them.

208 posted on 12/05/2003 1:25:42 PM PST by Dataman
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To: Paul C. Jesup
There is no difference between the God of the OT and the God of the NT. It's our perception that is changed by Christ's teaching and example. He chastises those He loves to the discipline of their spirits. He calls all people to Himself, some of us need a bit of a push, though.

God isn't sadistic in His allowing the devil to pile punishments on Job. God uses infirmity to His own design. His own design is that we put our faith in Him and no other. Some people in this world are offered by God to us as examples of what to do and what not to do. All reap a reward for their choices.

In the end, Job was restored. It wasn't just because God was rewarding him for his faith, it was primarily as an example to others of the rewards to those who persevere.

209 posted on 12/05/2003 1:26:41 PM PST by pgyanke (Big Bang Theory = First there was nothing...then it exploded.)
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To: Paul C. Jesup; xzins
You never read the Old Testament have you.........Now on the other hand (in the New Testament) Jesus, not God, is really nice person, but God is another story.

Likewise, you missed the NT class LOL - How can a God who offers His only Son as a sinless sacrifice for the sin of mankind to afford us an opportunity at a closer relationship with Him considered anything but loving.

Im not surprised though, tough love at times is hard to understand for todays "dont spank the naughty kid" crowd.

Job 1:20 At this, Job got up and tore his robe and shaved his head. Then he fell to the ground in worship 21 and said: "Naked I came from my mother's womb, and naked I will depart. The LORD gave and the LORD has taken away; may the name of the LORD be praised." 22 In all this, Job did not sin by charging God with wrongdoing.

You however have - your faith is weak

It begs the question - what did God do to upset you so ?

256 posted on 12/06/2003 5:49:16 AM PST by Revelation 911
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