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Changes Proposed In Right-To-Die Laws - Your help is needed NOW in Florida!
Tampa Tribune ^ | 12-03-03 | JEROME R. STOCKFISCH

Posted on 12/03/2003 2:46:09 AM PST by phenn

http://news.tbo.com/news/MGAN946WQND.html

From the Article: Senate Bill 692, introduced by Republican state Sen. Stephen Wise of Jacksonville, would prohibit courts from ordering feeding tubes removed from any mentally incompetent patient in Florida who doesn't have a living will or other advance directive stating otherwise. Experts predict fewer than 12 percent of American adults have living wills.

Not so fast, King said. When asked Tuesday whether Wise's bill would get a hearing in the coming session, he abruptly answered, ``No.''

In the 1980s, King was the architect of Florida's right-to- die law, considered a national death-with-dignity model and touted by the Senate leader as one of his key accomplishments.

``I don't want anything on the floor in that Senate that is going to give platforms to people who want to roll back the hands of time for whatever reason,'' King said. ``As soon as you put something on the floor, as well-intended as it may be, anybody can amend it. Then all of a sudden I'm sitting there facing a bill or bills that can dismantle what I consider to be my legacy.''

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TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: euthanasia; righttodie; righttolife; terrischiavo
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Comment: Political posturing and personal "legacies" should not be what keeps vulnerable citizens from retaining the protection and rights they deserve as fellow human beings. In a situation where no advanced directive is present and no death is imminent, lawmakers have a duty to protect those amongst us who cannot defend ourselves from the wishes of our guardian.

FLORIDIANS: Please contact Senate Leader Jim King on king.james.web@flsenate.gov and urge him to allow Senate Bill 692 to be heard.

You can also contact Stephen Wise on wise.stephen.web@ flsenate.gov to thank him for his efforts.

1 posted on 12/03/2003 2:46:10 AM PST by phenn
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To: nickcarraway; Lady In Blue; Canticle_of_Deborah; MarMema; kimmie7; floriduh voter; JulieRNR21; ...
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2 posted on 12/03/2003 3:45:26 AM PST by amdgmary
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To: phenn
This is a can of worms. It is best left to the medical community. There will always be cases that slip through the cracks, and bad, ignorant laws will not help. In fact, probably make things much worse.
3 posted on 12/03/2003 3:54:05 AM PST by tkathy (The islamofascists and the democrats are trying to destroy this country)
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To: tkathy
Please enlighten us as to why doctors should be allowed to dictate who lives and dies, instead of merely being custodians of the means of healing.
4 posted on 12/03/2003 4:44:38 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: tkathy
I have to be honest in that I think it's a far bigger and nastier can of worms we open up when we start accepting the practice of ending life because of disability.
5 posted on 12/03/2003 5:17:27 AM PST by phenn (http://www.terrisfight.org)
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Changes Proposed In Right-To-Die Laws

By JEROME R. STOCKFISCH
jstockfisch@tampatrib.com

TALLAHASSEE - Weeks after Gov. Jeb Bush and the Legislature intervened in the Terri Schiavo case, a lawmaker is proposing to rewrite Florida's right-to-die statutes to make it harder to remove feeding tubes from all comatose patients.

Senate Bill 692, introduced by Republican state Sen. Stephen Wise of Jacksonville, would prohibit courts from ordering feeding tubes removed from any mentally incompetent patient in Florida who doesn't have a living will or other advance directive stating otherwise. Experts predict fewer than 12 percent of American adults have living wills.

The measure faces stiff opposition. Senate President Jim King, a fellow Jacksonville Republican who helped craft the state's current right-to-die statutes and controls which bills reach the chamber floor, said Tuesday that Wise's bill will go nowhere in the 2004 session.

Wise said it's the Schiavo case that persuaded him to introduce the ``Starvation and Dehydration of Persons with Disabilities Prevention Act.'' The measure would require courts and medical professionals to presume that mentally incapacitated patients would want life-sustaining nutrition and hydration unless they have a written document stating otherwise.

A disagreement among family members over Schiavo's wishes led to the current controversy over her care.

``The Schiavo case is he- said, she-said, who-said - and she's not able to talk,'' Wise said. ``I don't know who said what. And that's the issue we wanted to get to - have something in writing.''

Not so fast, King said. When asked Tuesday whether Wise's bill would get a hearing in the coming session, he abruptly answered, ``No.''

In the 1980s, King was the architect of Florida's right-to- die law, considered a national death-with-dignity model and touted by the Senate leader as one of his key accomplishments.

``I don't want anything on the floor in that Senate that is going to give platforms to people who want to roll back the hands of time for whatever reason,'' King said. ``As soon as you put something on the floor, as well-intended as it may be, anybody can amend it. Then all of a sudden I'm sitting there facing a bill or bills that can dismantle what I consider to be my legacy.''

Wise acknowledged that he crafted the bill with the help of Florida Right To Life and the Florida Catholic Conference.

As written, Wise's bill contains a glitch that could allow the end of treatment to someone providing ``express and informed consent.'' That could be interpreted as verbal direction, but Wise said that language was included in error and would be stricken.

Larry Spalding, legislative counsel for the American Civil Liberties Union, said there is a constitutional issue with requiring end-of-life wishes in writing.

Spalding offered the example of a physician tending to a patient in a vegetative state who has no written instructions. Even if all family members agreed withdrawal of treatment was what the patient wanted, the doctor is setting himself up for civil or criminal penalties if he abides, Spalding said.

The doctor ``would have to say, `I'm sorry, we're going to have to continue to provide treatment whether he would have wanted it or not,' '' Spalding said. ``If you're going to make [the law] so strong as to say, `No, not even if all the players agree,' ... I just can't see a court sustaining that.''

This story can be found at: http://news.tbo.com/news/MGAN946WQND.html


6 posted on 12/03/2003 8:04:49 AM PST by cyn (http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: phenn
THANKS for posting that -- and especially, thanks for posting the contact info for Sen. King and Sen. Wise. That encourages action on behalf of Terri -- as a special birthday present for her.

I am appalled that Sen. King puts his "legacy" ahead of the needs of FL citizens.

I have sent emails to both, and have revised the email to Sen. King so I can mail it to him in addition. I expect to receive a reply to my concerns, as I am a constituent.

THANK YOU, Sen. Wise, for your work on this -- thank you for taking Terri's situation seriously to act further on behalf of the disabled.

7 posted on 12/03/2003 8:12:14 AM PST by cyn (http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: cyn
Washington DC:
116 Cannon HOB
Washington, D.C. 20515
Phone: (202) 225-5015
Fax: (202) 226-0828

katherine.harris@mail.house.gov

Lets also have Katherine Harris get involved here
from Her Congressional Post.

Ops4 God Bless America!
8 posted on 12/03/2003 8:37:05 AM PST by OPS4
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To: cyn
In this Stockfish article it mentions that "Larry Spalding, legislative counsel for the American Civil Liberties Union, said there is a constitutional issue with requiring end-of-life wishes in writing". I have to ask then,is it a constitutional issue to have a last will and testament in writing.

9 posted on 12/03/2003 8:41:42 AM PST by lilypad
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To: tkathy
"This is a can of worms."

I'm not sure what can of worms you are refering to. If a person is unable to speak for themselves and hasn't given written permission to starve them to death, I don't think someone else should make that choice for them.

10 posted on 12/03/2003 8:49:33 AM PST by MEGoody
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To: phenn
bump and prayers for Florida lawmakers.
11 posted on 12/03/2003 9:00:51 AM PST by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift mine eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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To: lilypad
Oh, I know! But what other excuse can ACLU use here?

It's Jim King's "legacy" comment that gets me -- even to the point of not bringing this out into open debate. If he doesn't want it gummed up with amendments, then don't add them!

I'm remembering King saying he will "forever wonder" if Senate did the right thing for Terri Schiavo by signing Terri's bill. Makes me wonder if he read and understood anything we put before him about Terri after all that. More power to Sen. Wise. Less to Sen. King.
12 posted on 12/03/2003 9:02:45 AM PST by cyn (http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: phenn
All I can say is: It sure doesn't look like Mr. King is missing any meals. I agree that nobody should be pulling anything on any person if it isn't their wishes in writing.
13 posted on 12/03/2003 9:03:58 AM PST by sisterjforteri
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To: cyn
``I don't want anything on the floor in that Senate that is going to give platforms to people who want to roll back the hands of time for whatever reason,'' King said. ... Then all of a sudden I'm sitting there facing a bill or bills that can dismantle what I consider to be my legacy.''

"No reason is as important as my legacy!"

The Legacy of Death!

14 posted on 12/03/2003 9:04:50 AM PST by TigersEye (Regime change in the courts. - Impeach activist judges!)
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To: phenn
Done!!

I suggested that Senator King might like to have
a legacy of being a champion of the disabled.
15 posted on 12/03/2003 9:06:15 AM PST by Lesforlife
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To: All
``I don't want anything on the floor in that Senate that is going to give platforms to people who want to roll back the hands of time for whatever reason,'' King said. ``As soon as you put something on the floor, as well-intended as it may be, anybody can amend it. Then all of a sudden I'm sitting there facing a bill or bills that can dismantle what I consider to be my legacy.''

As a Californian, I would suggest one word for James King...."RECALL!!!!!!!

16 posted on 12/03/2003 9:07:59 AM PST by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift mine eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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To: OPS4
Thanks for the links. Emails sent to all.
I can't believe the crass quote about his "legacy"
from Senator King.
He's even slimier than Slick Willie!
I didn't think that was possible without going back to
Hitler and the death camps.

SM
17 posted on 12/03/2003 9:08:23 AM PST by Senormechanico ("Face piles of trials with smiles...it riles them to believe that you perceive the web they weave.)
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To: Senormechanico
The Hitler saga continues in Evil Men!

Ops4 God Bless America!
18 posted on 12/03/2003 9:10:43 AM PST by OPS4
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"Filthy little constituentses. They wants to steal our pwecious legacy.
It's our legacy, we wants it, we wants to keep our legacy! Ahhggggggg!"
19 posted on 12/03/2003 9:18:58 AM PST by TigersEye (Regime change in the courts. - Impeach activist judges!)
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To: phenn
I see that once again the liberal thinking FR components are
attempting to influence and encourage governmental power over
innocent citizens.

I'm certain every human body that can no longer remain alive
without artificial support would welcome the thought of the
government deciding that the body must be kept somehow
"alive", for the sake if those that are so sympathetic to some
religious-bent purpose of keeping a non-alive body "alive".

Without a written "living will" the decision to be removed from
a system that's keeping a non-functioning body "alive" is up to
the spouse, the oldest child, or the next of kin.

That legislation is the same in nearly every state of the Union;
it is not isolated to Florida; it has functioned well in every
instance on the past, and it protects the wishes of the public
that are immediately concerned with their very private situation.

It is of not the concern to those outside the immediate family;
it is wrong -morally and legally- for those outside the immediate
family to interfere with the wishes of the patient and spouse.

20 posted on 12/03/2003 9:20:38 AM PST by Deep_6
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