Nellie Connally Disputes Warren Commission

NewsMax.com ^ | 11/25/03 | Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

[kattracks]

For all the coverage generated by the 40th anniversary of the Kennedy assassination this past weekend, the media managed to miss the only genuine news to emerge from the commemoration.

Nellie Connally, wife of former Texas Gov. John Connally and the only person still alive who rode in the presidential death limousine, publicly disputed for the first time the Warren Commission's "magic bullet" theory, a scenario absolutely essential to its finding that Lee Harvey Oswald was Kennedy's lone assassin.

A year after the assassination the Commission concluded that Kennedy and Gov. Connally were both wounded by the first shot fired by Oswald from the Texas School Book Depository. A second shot missed completely. A third shot slammed into Kennedy's head and splattered his brains throughout the car.

But Mrs. Connally told CNN's Larry King that Kennedy and her husband couldn't have been struck by the same bullet, because she watched her husband react over a period of two seconds after the first shot struck the president.

"John [Connally] sitting right in front of him knew it was a shot," the former Texas first lady said. "He's a hunter and a shooter, you know. . . ."

Mrs. Connally continued:

"So he turned quick to his right and he couldn't see [Kennedy] because he was directly in front of him. And he said, 'No, no, no' and turned to his left. . . . Now this is a second or two. Then, as he whirled back, the second shot hit John . . ."

When pressed about the single bullet theory adopted by the Warren Commission, Mrs. Connally told King, "Do you think a bullet that went through the president's neck can hang there in air between the two seats while John turned to the right, turned to the left and came back?

"That's what I asked the Warren Commission," she explained. "I said, 'I don't believe a bullet could do that. That bullet -- the same bullet did not hit both of them.'"

[justshutupandtakeit]

Still can't tell me how a 34" gun was carried into the TBD in a 22" package can you. But insults flow easily from your pie hole.

[chuckwalla]

Also how LHO shot the rifle under those circumstances and left no fingerprints except under the barrel after the rifle was taken apart. No gloves were found anywhere. Why just put the rifle behind some boxes, not hide it, then hide the gloves very well? If he worked there he could have come up with any number of places to hide the rifle where no-on would ever find it until the building was torn down. Why leave the brass and hide the gloves. Smells of a set up. Why even bother to move the rifle while leaving the brass.
Just doesn't make any sense at all.

[justshutupandtakeit]

And your source for that statement is?

[oldcomputerguy]

The series that ran all day on the History channel(British?) was pretty interesting. Didn't watch all of it but the general conclusion was that it was a contract killing with 3 shooters, two behind, one high and one low and one in front.

There were 4? shots, two simultaneously at least. The one from the front(grassy knoll) was the head shot, exploding bullet.

He was named Lucien Satees(sp) and was dressed as a cop w/o a hat. He was a professional killer of long experience and later died in Mexico about 10 years later. They were purportedly paid in heroin.

The contact killers were from Marseille and were mafia related. They came into Mexico and crossed into Texas, were met by mob figures from Chicago and put up in a safe house.

After the shooting, the gun(on the grassy knoll) was passed to an accomplice dressed as a railroad worker who walked to the tracks nearby and dismanteled the weapon and put it into a tool box and walked off with it.

They stayed in Dallas for about 10 days and went back thru Montreal.

Oswald was the fall guy. The Warren report was a coverup for whatever reason and the autopsy photos were faked as the doctor at Parkland said, in the program, that the face was intact and the right rear of the head was exploded with a 3 inch exit wound in the back. This was not the picture presented on the official autopsy photo not would square with an entry from the rear.

[justshutupandtakeit]

No but nothing about that rifle purchase makes sense. No ammo bought; no reason to purchase a rifle through the mail (and leave a guaranteed trail) rather than any of hundreds of places in Texas where NO trail would be left; no practice shooting the rifle; no other ammo found; no chance to align the sights after reassembly of rifle; rifle found NOT rifle ordered through ad; sight attached so improperly it could not be sighted without repairs by Army Ordinance; no evidence Oswald purchased money order for rifle (he was at work at time the M.O. was purchased); no evidence he picked up rifle; and no evidence he brought it into the TBD that day.

Yet, all this is ignored by Sh1tter 2.5 and _jim who prefer to insult those who wonder about such things while claiming this was the greatest gun that has ever existed.

[justshutupandtakeit]

What is particularly hilarious is Sh!tter 2.5's attempts to claim knowledge of firearms and trajectories shows that the WC report is accurate when such knowledge shows exactly the opposite. And he always ignores the inconvenient questions without a canned "answer" available. He refuses to address my questions and comments now (they are sooo beneath him.)

Actual firearms experts admit that the MC was a PoS and the true expert marksmen like Carlos Hathcock are quoted stating the impossibility of the shots being made within the time frame with that weapon.

Watching a technician try and work the bolt of that weapon should convince anyone that it could not have been used as claimed. The guy could hardly work the bolt without massive movements of the rifle barrel it was so difficult and stiff.

[Taliesan]

No, I'll just give up in advance, since there is no possible refutation for the argument that all of the evidence is fake.

He was never in the Marines, that's all fake. There are no pictures of him with a rifle; it's all a fake. Hence, he never bought a rifle. Any account that he owned a rifle is, uh, fake. He never shot officer Trippit. That was faked. He never shot at the general.

Oswald, in fact, was a pacifist quaker. We know this because some courageous fourth cousin of his came forward in 1999 and wanted to clear her conscience before she went to her Maker.

Also, the moon landing was fake and the LAPD planted Nicole's blood on O.J.'s socks.

[justshutupandtakeit]

If you don't care to address serious matters I can't make you. However, the evidence from the WC is out there for all to see. You can just pretend all is well but that does not change the facts which are inconsistent with the Official story. I never claimed "all" the evidence is fake and, in fact, find much of it contradicts the Official story. Your little rant mixes up things which are not in dispute with CONCLUSIONS which are.

It is the WC which showed that the Money Order for the rifle was purchased when he was at work. It is the WC which shows that the gun advertised in the ad was not the gun found. And it is the evidence provided by the WC which demonstrates that the gun could not have been carried into the TBD as claimed.

How could a rifle have been delivered to a P.O. box to a name not authorized to have mail delivered to that box? Where is the evidence LHO ever purchased ammunition for the rifle or pistol?

[Tares]

Common sense experience tells us that jackets & shirts only align in identical positions when in conventional postures, seeing that shirts are restrained from 'bunching' by a tie at top & being tucked in at bottom.

With all due respect, your common sense experience is mistaken. See here. Notice that the shirt rides up while the collar stays stationary.

The above video clip comes from The Case of the Bunched Jacket. If you have the time, consider the evidence. Also, consider X-ray Wound Comparison.

Also, you still haven't commented on the extensive photographic evidence that shows JFK's jacket was bunched while he was sitting in the limo. Do you dispute that the jacket was bunched?

[_Jim]

Still can't tell me how a 34" gun was carried into the TBD in a 22" package can you. *** UNNEEDED, LAME, PERSONAL INSULT FOLLOWING COMMENT DELETED ***

Do you mean to intimate that the Italian made rifle was built as a one-piece cast 'gun'?

Do you further mean to say the wooden stock was some how 'integral' ('built-in' to) with the barrel and NOT removable?

I dare say you may have overlooked some key, technical points, misread someone's account, and in any case are somehow 'blind' to facts in your haste to arrive at a conspiratorial conclusion and ...

[Tares]

It is the WC which showed that the Money Order for the rifle was purchased when he was at work. It is the WC which shows that the gun advertised in the ad was not the gun found. And it is the evidence provided by the WC which demonstrates that the gun could not have been carried into the TBD as claimed.

How could a rifle have been delivered to a P.O. box to a name not authorized to have mail delivered to that box? Where is the evidence LHO ever purchased ammunition for the rifle or pistol?

This issue was discussed previously. See here if interested.

[Tares]

You may find the discussion linked to in post #391 of interest.

[justshutupandtakeit]

It was previously discussed and your comment therein about leaving work with permission COULD be relevent IF the P.O. was close enough to get to within a couple of minutes. I don't believe that to be the case. EVIDENCE indicates that Oswald was very anxious to keep his job and was only a temporary/probationary employee so it is highly unlikely that he would have done anything to jeopardize it. It doesn't appear to have been a job within which he had a lot of flexibility. Now the New Orleans job is a different story and it sounds as though he could have gotten away unnoticed for some time.

[justshutupandtakeit]

It has been repeatedly offered as evidence that the rifle disassembled had a 34" component. If you are pretending otherwise I suggest you are being disingeneous if not deceptive.

Your haste to conclude the WC Report is true apparently leads to misreading statements I have made.

[justshutupandtakeit]

WC says rifle had a 34.8" minimum component out of a total length of 40.2".

[Taliesan]

This issue was discussed previously.

Oh, of course they all have been. Reading these conspiracy threads is enough to make you despair of human reason altogether.

For example - still, after all this time and a half-dozen computer reconstructions, based on photographs, of the limousine showing that JFK and Connally were lined up in Oswalds sight, we STILL get the people who say, with all the drama of Oliver Stone on acid -- "then it pauses in mid-air for 2 seconds and turns 60 degrees...".

I swear, you could show people like that a picture and they'll scream NO NO NO NO NO NO NO IT CAN'T BE DONE.

The simplest explanation for all the physical evidence is that Oswald fired 3 shots from the 6th floor of the TSBD, killing Kennedy and wounding Connally. All the other theories require intellectual contortions of the strangest kind.

But conspiracy theories are not driven by reason, they are driven by emotion. It's futile to argue.

[Tares]

It's futile to argue.

This attitude is more reason for despair than the most insane conspiracy reasoning. The whole point of Free Republic is to argue for the truth. Never, Never, Never, Never Give Up!

[tpaine]

The holes lined up, proving that JFK was in a normal position when shot.

you then have to explain how JKF got TWO holes in the back of his clothing: one in his jacket, and a second in his shirt, which does not line up with the hole in the jacket.

The holes do line up. Therefore, ~you~ have to explain how the two clothing holes line up with a hole in JFK's back, which does NOT line up with the exit hole at his tie, when viewed from the 6th floor window.
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With all due respect, your common sense experience is mistaken. See here. Notice that the shirt rides up while the collar stays stationary.

The holes in JFKs jacket & shirt line up to the hole in his back. Thus, he was in a normal position when shot.

The above video clip comes from The Case of the Bunched Jacket. If you have the time, consider the evidence. Also, consider X-ray Wound Comparison.

What x-ray?

Also, you still haven't commented on the extensive photographic evidence that shows JFK's jacket was bunched while he was sitting in the limo. Do you dispute that the jacket was bunched?

Yes. -- The jacket & shirt were not 'bunched' they were in a normal position on JFK, who was seated normally with his right arm resting on the right side of the limo. Thus, the bullet entered to low on his back to exit at his tie.

[tpaine]

The simplest explanation for all the physical evidence is that while Oswald ~may~ indeed have fired 3 shots from the 6th floor of the TSBD, killing Kennedy [head shot] and wounding Connally, at least one other shot was needed to account for JFKs back wound, and the bullet that struck the curb down by the underpass.

All the other theories require intellectual contortions of the strangest kind, -- like the Reports 'single bullet theory'.