Posted on 11/24/2003 1:40:19 PM PST by churchillbuff
FRONTLINE obtained this photograph from John B. Ciravolo, Jr., of New Orleans. Ciravolo was also a C.A.P. member in 1955 and says he was in the same unit with Oswald and was standing right in front of him in the photo. Ciravolo identified David Ferrie, while former C.A.P. cadet Tony Atzenhoffer, also of New Orleans, identified Oswald and Ferrie in the photograph, and Colin Hammer, who says he served with both men in the C.A.P., also identified both in the photograph.
FRONTLINE located the photographer, Chuck Frances, who says he took the picture for the C.A.P. Francis also said that when he was interviewed by the FBI, he told them Oswald and Ferrie knew each other, but he did not tell them about the photograph. The executor of Ferrie's estate, as well as Ferrie's godson, also picked out Ferrie.
After the Kennedy assassination, David Ferrie told investigators he never knew Lee Oswald. "I never heard David Ferrie mention Lee Harvey Oswald," said Layton Martens, a former C.A.P. Cadet and a close friend to Ferrie until Ferrie's death in 1967.
But when FRONTLINE showed Martens the photograph, he identified Ferrie. "It does indicate the possibity of an associaton," said Martens, "but if and to what extent is another question. Of course we've all been photographed with people, and we could be presented with photographs later and asked, 'Well, do you know this person? Obviously, you must because you've been photographed with them.' Well no, it's just a photograph, and I don't know that person. It's just someone who happened to be in the picture."
"As dramatic as the discovery of this photograph is after thirty years," says Michael Sullivan, FRONTLINE executive producer for special projects, "one should be cautious in ascribing its meaning. The photograph does give much support to the eyewitnesses who say they saw Ferrie and Oswald together in the C.A.P., and it makes Ferrie's denials that he ever knew Oswald less credible. But it does not prove that the two men were with each other in 1963, nor that they were involved in a conspiracy to kill the president."
Right, it merely means that a guy who was an FBI suspect in Dallas in 1963, and who claimed he didn't know the guy who killed Kennedy in Dallas in 1963, DID know that guy, as far back as 1955. That's all it means. Nothing to see here, move along.
This is another example of why the government investigation is difficult to believe. That is the significance of the photo.
Significance: Goofy and Minney are obviously in collusion to take over the world (every one in-betrween was simply being used as innocent 'mules' to convey messages) ...
Yup.
'Mind melds' have offen been known to occur in photos (so I've heard) therefore everyone in that photo is linked to the (eventual) conspiracy ...
IF this was indeed a conspracy from the highest levels (mob, LBJ, Soviets, Russians, Cubans, visitors from outer space or the future) -
- WHY was a simple bolt-action single-shot rifle used in lieu of something with a greater rate of 'fire' (semi-auto, lever-action, full-auto, you-name-it)?
AS it was, whomever (Oswald, 'Mac', some other bogey man) was firing apparently MISSED the first shot - and all three could very well have been missed or badly off-target, so, WHY WASN'T a weapon with a greater rate of firing employed?
It appears, to me, that, overall this was a half-*ssed assassination attempt GIVEN the choice of firepower ...
Those of us who try to be objective about the Kennedy shooting find it hard to believe the government when the investigaton is full of similar errors and other problems. THAT IS MY POINT AND MY ONLY POINT.
You keep 'pointing' to a picture as evidence for your POINT; your insinuation is/you allude to an association that was not detected by the investigators WHEREAS the picture may depict a simple appearance by this guy for the purpose of attending a barbeque ...
GDD's dad
SPEAKING of goofy replies - learn english and while you're at it get a sense of humor ...
(YOU do know that that 'attack' was against site rules and may subject you to discipline - don't you?)
IN the literal sense or in the 'official capacity' sense?
JUST because someone may not hold an office or a position in 'official capacity' anymore does not mean he evaporates off the face of the earth or he severs all friendship with those he knew there - ESPECIALLY when they are serving barbeque ...
Look at the guy in the picture second from the right in the rear row. I think it's Underscore Jim -- an inerrant indication of somethin' conspiratorial.
My first thought, too. Oswald must have been a little adolescent commie-in-training.
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