JACKO ABUSE ACCUSER, KIN STILL LIVING A NIGHTMARE 10 YRS. LATER

New York Post ^ | November 23, 2003 | LINDA STASI

[Bubba_Leroy]

ACCUSING Michael Jackson of sexual abuse comes with a hefty price tag.

A decade after shocking the world with allegations in 1993 that he was molested by the bizarro superstar, the lives of a California man and his relatives remain a living hell.

[diamond6]

Stuff like this just outrages me. Here we have a child that was molested, a victim, and is treated like a criminal. However, they still should have pressed charges because molestors always have plenty of victims and putting Michael away would have protected other children from abuse.

[Hildy]

Wow...so you think his crime as described should be punished the same way you would punish a murderer?

[tetelestai]

Well said.

[Bubba_Leroy]

What, exactly, did/does Pellicano do for a living?

The slashing of tires, the killing of cats, death threats, beatings and intimidation of those who would testify against Pellicano's clients.

[liberty or death]

If he raped a child the answer is a great big YES.
How would you like to have someone you love and trust bend you over and sodomize you.Try and comprehend the fear,pain,shame and utter horror that must be for a child.
Get a clue and turn off the daytime T.V.

[bonfire]

His crime and the crime of the parents for subjecting their child to a known pedophile.

[cajungirl]

A serial pedophile maims children's souls for their lifetime. I think it deserves the same punishment as murder. Rape of a juvenile is a capital crime in some states, reflecting society's ideas which are similar to mine. One who robs children of innocence, who abuses them sexually deserves the highest penalty we have. Do you feel a serial pedophile, and most are serial offenders with scores of victims, deserves a few years in jail or what. What is the punishment you would give a man who abused say ten children.

[MizSterious]

I think the term is "professional thug."

[cajungirl]

I think that is good job description. Now his title? Enforcer? Would love to see his resume.

[pollywog]

You said it well!! A SICK, sick WORLD.!!!

[Lazamataz]

BS. I hug, cuddle and kiss my nieces, nephews and my friends childrens too. And its not just because I'm femaile, so does my father.

If you do that overnight, in bed, I've got a problem with that.

[Hildy]

I said guilty of what they SAY he did. As far as I know, there have never been accusations of sodomy. Maybe you should get your facts in order before you speak. The guy at the press conference even stressed that it wasn't even oral sex. He's being chared with lewd and lacivious (sp?) behavior. If anyone has proof that he's being charged with something else, please post it here.

[milagro]

Wonder how MJ would be treated if he were a priest instead of a pop star.

[Hildy]

I believe fondling a child and exposing oneself should not carry the same penalty as sodomy. I'm pasting this from the FOXnews wesbite:

The 45-year-old "King of Pop" was accused of multiple counts of lewd or lascivious acts with a child under 14.

[beaversmom]

Lara, I don't know you personally, but your comments on #6 seem very naive. Please read the allegations from the "first" boy in 1993. Very believeable--typical pedophile stuff--only MJ uses his millions of dollars to get what he wants instead of having to resort to the less sophisticated method of "hey want some candy" in the neighborhood park.

If you read the report from 93, it's hard to believe that a young boy could have made this stuff up. Jackson used very manipulative manuevers to get what he wanted--crying when the boy wouldn't go along with what he wanted. Saying just because other people think it's wrong doesn't make it so. I don't buy this I'm just a big kid a heart routine. It's a put on to manuever and manipulate children into his web. The excuse is, I have all this kid stuff because I'm a kid; therefore, since I'm just a kid, I love to be around kids. He does love kids--a lot of pedophiles claim they love children and are only expressing their love for them. For the life of me I don't know how so many parents could have went along with it especially after the 93 claims.

You are right, Jackson has been accused of rubs and kisses but they aren't rubs and kisses on the kid's cheek. They aren't the rubs and kisses you or I would give our own children.

Also, a normal person in his situation that had been wrongly accused of child molestation would have made it a point never to be around a stranger's child again at least not alone and certainly wouldn't have been having sleep overs. Instead, Michael Jackson goes right back to the old behavior because he can't control his desire to sexually molest children. Going back to his old behavior tells me right there that he is guilty.

You can wait until you hear more of the facts. I won't be on the jury and don't have to worry about legally guilty or innocent. He was guilty right after I read that 93 report and saw that English interview earlier this year. My common sense tells me that.

[luckystarmom]

Do you sleep with them in your bed and hug, kiss, and cuddle them there?

The only time I ever slept with my niece was when I graduated from college. Her whole family stayed at my tiny apartment. I was sleeping on a sofa bed in the living room. In the morning, my 3 year old niece crawled into the bed with me and fell asleep.

My roommate and my brother and sister-in-law were coming in an out of the living room, so I was never really alone with her.

My husband and I are both very cautious with other people's kids. It's one thing to hug and cuddle your own kids, and it's another thing to hug and cuddle someone else's kids.

[Hildy]

I just looked up the charge. This is what 288 (a) states:

288. (a) Any person who willfully and lewdly commits any lewd or lascivious act, including any of the acts constituting other crimes provided for in Part 1, upon or with the body, or any part or member thereof, of a child who is under the age of 14 years, with the intent of arousing, appealing to, or gratifying the lust, passions, or sexual desires of that person or the child, is guilty of a felony and shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for three, six, or eight years.

As far as I can tell, it's a pretty narrow charge.

[cajungirl]

Let's see. Over a period of weeks and months, Jackson paid his bills, had him over, the kid called him Daddy, and then he escalated to something. If it was similar to the last kid, it included sleeping together, buying presents, taking baths, masturbating, tongue kissing, etc all in the guise of being the childs Daddy and friend. You can reduce that to a little fondling but in my box that is a serious assault on a childs ability to love, trust, enjoy his body and become a normal sexual being at the proper age. That is a wound that most children never recover from. It scars them for life. "Fondling" is rarely ever just fondling. It is emotional seduction, betrayal and making a child feel sexually excited while doing so. It is unspeakable. Now what penalty would you deem appropriate for that in this context including money, the proving his mother did not protect him, the love letters, a year long oddyssey while the child had cancer and no father around. Consider all the circumstances if true and what would you do to him knowing he has done this over and over and over.

[cajungirl]

Narrow charge but up to 8 years per count. Multiple counts. Given it is a narrow charge it is easier to prove. Now if this guy did it say 6 times with a history of priors, he would be facing 48 years. A judge knowing his history might be inclined to max out his time. 48 years for Mike is life. Yep, I think justice may agree with me on this case.

[Hildy]

You obviously have some personal experience tied to this discussion so I'm not going to get into it with you. I'm merely stating that I don't believe the punishment for what he is accused of doing should be as harsh as you are hoping for. I'm not minimizing the effect of this kind of behavior, I"m just saying that it's not as bad as murder as you're saying it is. That's all.