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Some Relevant Facts About the JFK Assassination
Newsmax ^ | 11/19/2003 | Phil Brennan

Posted on 11/18/2003 10:38:05 PM PST by Swordmaker

There's an explosive new book that lays out a very detailed – and persuasive – case for the probability that the late President Lyndon Baines Johnson was responsible for the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.

I say persuasive because the author, Barr McClellan, was one of LBJ's top lawyers, and he provides a lot of information hitherto unknown to the general public – much more of which he says is buried in secret documents long withheld from the American people.

"The American public has waited forty years to hear the truth about the JFK assassination," McClellan says. "For government agencies to withhold critical evidence and not cooperate with the [1998 investigation conducted by the Assassination Records Review Board (ARRB)] is a form of obstruction of justice. Under the requirements of the Freedom of Information Act, the public should be granted access to these documents."

According to McClellan and Doug Horne, a former ARRB investigator, hundreds of relevant documents were withheld from the 1998 investigation into the JFK assassination. They believe that these materials are now in the possession of the National Archives, relocated from sealed files previously controlled by the CIA and FBI.

McClellan also asked for a formal review of the evidence in his book, "Blood, Money & Power: How L.B.J. Killed J.F.K.," which establishes a direct connection between LBJ and an individual involved with the assassination and cover-up.

"At this time we need to see what else is missing and what else would be helpful to presenting the entire truth," McClellan continued. "The Senate Judiciary Committee and the Department of Justice could make the request of the National Archives and should do so."

Now, in normal circumstance I would tend to view this latest explanation of who was behind the killing of JFK as exactly that – just another theory among dozens. But the circumstances are not normal. Poll after poll establishes that an overwhelming majority of Americans believe that the official verdict of the Warren Commission is simply not borne out by what little is known publicly about the case.

McClellan's new book adds to those facts and names a second suspect he says was a longtime assassin for Lyndon Johnson, whom he portrays as ... well, as being homicidal whenever he or his many concealed interests were threatened.

Add to that the incredible inconsistencies in the FBI and Secret Service investigations, which reek with the stench of cover-up, and one can't escape the conclusion that if LBJ did nothing else in dealing with the aftermath of the assassination, he sure as hell clamped a lid on any evidence that contradicted the official finding that Lee Harvey Oswald was the lone gunman acting solely on his own initiative.

I report all of this as a prelude to revealing what I know about the matter but have never before written about – in the beginning, because I had a wife and seven children to protect, and since, because I had no reason to revisit the matter.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: assasination; conspiracy; jfk; jfkassassination; kennedy; lbj
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To: Havoc
You must be blind. Have someone explain number 230 to you.

You're either blind, stupid or both.
241 posted on 11/21/2003 11:46:39 AM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: Shooter 2.5
Is there some reason you are taking this so personally as to attack others because you decided to buy the lie and we haven't. Or are you just 8 and trying to pretend you know something? Seriously. When you get either your body or your IQ out of Geranimals, let us know.
242 posted on 11/21/2003 12:35:37 PM PST by Havoc (If you can't be frank all the time are you lying the rest of the time?)
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To: Darnright
"Think back to what the assasination by itself did to the psyche of the country. Tying Kennedy's murder to the VP, who automatically assumed the office of President, would have been an unimaginable blow to the US, literally unthinkable."

We got through it, just like we got through Lincoln, shots at Ford and Reagan (which landed).

I suggest the decorum you imply is no longer present. Can you picture the media covering for Cheney, if he had Bush killed?

Could you picture the media covering for Gore, if he had Clinton killed?

Before Ford dies, I would like his brain thoroughly picked, for he knows a lot about a lot. Kennedy assassination, Vietnam, Nixon, etc.
243 posted on 11/21/2003 12:56:12 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: Havoc
Can you identify Lovelady standing in the doorway based on the 230 post?

y or n.

244 posted on 11/21/2003 1:39:31 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: truth_seeker
"I suggest the decorum you imply is no longer present. Can you picture the media covering for Cheney, if he had Bush killed?"

No, I can't.

"Could you picture the media covering for Gore, if he had Clinton killed?"

I could see this scenario before I could see the media protecting Cheney on anything.
245 posted on 11/21/2003 2:03:34 PM PST by Darnright
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To: Shooter 2.5
Can you identify him without the 230 post, y or n.
246 posted on 11/23/2003 11:53:27 AM PST by Havoc (If you can't be frank all the time are you lying the rest of the time?)
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To: Havoc
y

Now answer my question.
247 posted on 11/23/2003 1:11:32 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: Shooter 2.5
How. Without a head on photo, you tell me how you make that identification. Cause you've just identified a feat that every law enforcement agency in the US and the world would be interested in.
248 posted on 11/23/2003 4:53:45 PM PST by Havoc (If you can't be frank all the time are you lying the rest of the time?)
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To: Havoc
Did it ever occur to you that half the Dallas Police Department walked right past Billy as he ate his lunch on the stairs like he and his two friends said he did?
249 posted on 11/23/2003 8:03:43 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: Wolfstar
And I'll repeat: anyone who has seen the Zapruder film in slow motion and still claims the fatal shot came from the front is a charlatan.

Here is an animated gif that show the moment of impact. Kennedy moves to the front after the round impacts his skull -- not "back and to the left" like Oliver Stone convinced so many people. It's is crystal clear that the bullet came from the rear.

Put your cursor on the door handle highlight, on Jackie's hat, or on the back of the seat. They are all still. Now put it on Kennedy's head. It is thrown forwards when the bullet hits.

250 posted on 11/23/2003 8:29:50 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Shooter 2.5
Well, let's see. I think this is territory we've been over before. The Feds falsified interview testimony from Most of the witnesses on the ground. They confiscated at least one person's film of the incident who filmed the view looking across at the grassy Nole and that footage never again resurfaced.

The recently released initial crime scene report from the book depository states that only TWO shell casings were found in the staged shooter's nest there. The cartridges taken from the J.D.T.'s execution scene were marked by one of the officers on scene (with his initials) which later disappeared. The entire investigation is like this. Fingerprint experts could find no prints anywhere on the rifle initially - none. It was completely clean. Then a well defined palm print - (something that can't be missed for it's size) magically shows up on the Carcano after Oswald dies..

Now, again, with recently declassified documents, we know the big three networks were complicit in covering up and were even reporting against Jim Garrison's investigation to the CIA and FBI. To the extent of doing Journalistic hitpieces against Garrison for the CIA & FBI.

But, oh, we should all just believe the document presented as though it were true just because it came from a group of people doing all these fraudulent things connected to the same charade. To call it an investigation at this point is dishonest at best. It occurs to me that the Dallas police could say any thing under the sun and that will not necessarily be what shows up in the documents produced. Thus, one has to go back and review what is known and proveable. Did his friends say "x" or is that the version the FBI presented. They are at this point quite different stories. If his friends did say it, were they coerced like so many others?
251 posted on 11/24/2003 8:51:58 AM PST by Havoc (If you can't be frank all the time are you lying the rest of the time?)
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To: Havoc
The Feds falsified interview testimony from Most of the witnesses on the ground.

...we know the big three networks were complicit in covering up...

...the Dallas police could say any thing under the sun...

Did his friends say "x" or is that the version the FBI presented. They are at this point quite different stories. If his friends did say it, were they coerced like so many others?

So, the FBI, the TV networks, and the Dallas Police at a minimum are all in on the conspiracy. How many people, roughly, do you think were in on it, and who was directing the show?

252 posted on 11/24/2003 9:39:16 AM PST by Tares
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To: Shooter 2.5
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253 posted on 11/24/2003 11:34:01 AM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: Tares
So, the FBI, the TV networks,...

Hey, the documents proving it have been released in unredacted form. If you want to argue against it now, you're a little late to poke fun for lack of evidence. Had congress not released the unredacted documents, you might have some room to poke fun. But the absurd appearance of it is what the government counted on. Reality is screwier than fiction, friend.

Wish to change the nature of your approach to something more honest. Debate is a matter of dealing with facts. When you start trying to color your opponent, you've already lost.

254 posted on 11/24/2003 7:41:42 PM PST by Havoc (If you can't be frank all the time are you lying the rest of the time?)
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To: Havoc
So, the FBI, the TV networks,...

Hey, the documents proving it have been released in unredacted form.

Wish to change the nature of your approach to something more honest. Debate is a matter of dealing with facts.

Please provide a link to the documents you claim proves that the TV networks are knowingly covering up a Kennedy assassination conspiracy.

255 posted on 11/25/2003 7:11:03 AM PST by Tares
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To: Tares
Kennedy assassination links for all to consider (in no particular order):

Kennedy Assassination Home Page
Lee Harvey Oswald's Paper Bag
Guinn’s neutron-activation Analysis
Warren Report: Table of Contents
One Hundred Errors of Fact and Judgment in Oliver Stone's JFK
The Academic JFK Assassination Web Site
HSCA (House Select Committee on Assassinations) Final Assassinations Report
A Critique of The Warren Report
Attempted assassination of General Walker
Oswald interviews, Acoustic studies and other information relating to the assassination of JFK
Queen of Diamonds
Zapruder 313
Head Wound
Photos and Illustrations of the JFK Assassination
Zapruder Head Shot
A Conspiracy Too Big? Intellectual Dishonesty in the JFK Assassination

256 posted on 11/25/2003 8:52:31 AM PST by Tares
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To: Tares
Ah, that's the way you do it is it? Just dump a load of stuff and let people sort it out? Ok. I can do that LOL. Here ya go!
257 posted on 11/25/2003 3:34:04 PM PST by Havoc (If you can't be frank all the time are you lying the rest of the time?)
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To: Havoc
Post 256 is for all to consider at their leisure. Post 255 is for you in particular. Do you have a link to the documents released by congress that proves the TV networks are part of a conspiracy to cover-up the truth about the Kennedy assassination?
258 posted on 11/25/2003 3:41:45 PM PST by Tares
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To: Tares
Post 256 is for all to consider at their leisure.

Oh, I see, so are we to presume dumping these makes you look like you have a clue? ;)

Here, you might note the tasty bit referencing a WDSU-TV reporter commenting to the new Orleans office of the FBI. The Memo discussing it is a teletype dispatch marked urgent and dated 5/18/67 to the Director [of the FBI](62-109060) and the Dallas office and From: New Orleans (89-69) Subject: "RE NEW ORLEANS TEL THIS DATE". The commentary specifically states:

"A local FBI agent reported that Richard Townley, WDSU-TV, New Orleans, remarked to a special agent of the New Orleans office last evening that he had received instructions from NBC, New York, to prepare a one hour TV special on Jim Garrison with the instruction 'shoot him down'."

An article mentioning this is here. Probe magazine, the link I provided earlier, has followed up on these documents and has published a great deal based on them since the latest round at declassifying and release of the UNredacted documents.

You might bother to read some of the evidence and while you're at it, resarch on Walter Sheridan of NBC, his intermediary, Herbert Miller, and Millers part in shuttling defense documents for Clay Shaw to the CIA. You might also check out the Phelan evidence recently released and unredacted showing that he was an informant for the FBI against Garrison. It's amazing what you can learn in 20 minutes if you open your eyes and pretend you don't know as much as you think you do.

259 posted on 11/25/2003 6:56:36 PM PST by Havoc (If you can't be frank all the time are you lying the rest of the time?)
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To: Destro
Meant to ping you on this too, Destro. ;)
260 posted on 11/25/2003 7:04:13 PM PST by Havoc (If you can't be frank all the time are you lying the rest of the time?)
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