Some Relevant Facts About the JFK Assassination

Newsmax ^ | 11/19/2003 | Phil Brennan

[Swordmaker]

There's an explosive new book that lays out a very detailed – and persuasive – case for the probability that the late President Lyndon Baines Johnson was responsible for the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.

I say persuasive because the author, Barr McClellan, was one of LBJ's top lawyers, and he provides a lot of information hitherto unknown to the general public – much more of which he says is buried in secret documents long withheld from the American people.

"The American public has waited forty years to hear the truth about the JFK assassination," McClellan says. "For government agencies to withhold critical evidence and not cooperate with the [1998 investigation conducted by the Assassination Records Review Board (ARRB)] is a form of obstruction of justice. Under the requirements of the Freedom of Information Act, the public should be granted access to these documents."

According to McClellan and Doug Horne, a former ARRB investigator, hundreds of relevant documents were withheld from the 1998 investigation into the JFK assassination. They believe that these materials are now in the possession of the National Archives, relocated from sealed files previously controlled by the CIA and FBI.

McClellan also asked for a formal review of the evidence in his book, "Blood, Money & Power: How L.B.J. Killed J.F.K.," which establishes a direct connection between LBJ and an individual involved with the assassination and cover-up.

"At this time we need to see what else is missing and what else would be helpful to presenting the entire truth," McClellan continued. "The Senate Judiciary Committee and the Department of Justice could make the request of the National Archives and should do so."

Now, in normal circumstance I would tend to view this latest explanation of who was behind the killing of JFK as exactly that – just another theory among dozens. But the circumstances are not normal. Poll after poll establishes that an overwhelming majority of Americans believe that the official verdict of the Warren Commission is simply not borne out by what little is known publicly about the case.

McClellan's new book adds to those facts and names a second suspect he says was a longtime assassin for Lyndon Johnson, whom he portrays as ... well, as being homicidal whenever he or his many concealed interests were threatened.

Add to that the incredible inconsistencies in the FBI and Secret Service investigations, which reek with the stench of cover-up, and one can't escape the conclusion that if LBJ did nothing else in dealing with the aftermath of the assassination, he sure as hell clamped a lid on any evidence that contradicted the official finding that Lee Harvey Oswald was the lone gunman acting solely on his own initiative.

I report all of this as a prelude to revealing what I know about the matter but have never before written about – in the beginning, because I had a wife and seven children to protect, and since, because I had no reason to revisit the matter.

[Tuxedo]

Hmmm... and all along I thought Clay Shaw was responsible.... ;)

[tpaine]

To: wardaddy

Why do you equate agreement with the Report as 'acquitting' oneself well? Is agreement some sort of test for political correctness?

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To: tpaine; Shooter 2.5

I think shooter answered the queries tossed at him comprehensively.

He is absolutely correct about a few things...the bullet/gun tie in and the fact that the shots were replicated by several experts and it is feasible that Oswald could have made them.

Now as for all the other wierd stuff like Oswald's travels and perhaps he was goaded by others...that I don't think anyone can verify one way or the other and of course all of that is very suspicious but ballistically speaking, it is more than plausible in my view that Oswald was the shooter.
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To my knowledge very few people rationally dispute "the bullet/gun tie in".. They dispute that the exhibit 399 bullet did what the report theorized.

The supposed 'fact' that the shots were replicated by several experts is simply not true. No re-enactment to date has duplicated the feat in a valid manner. Please post a link to such testimony.

Sure, it is more that "plausible" that Oswald was ~a~ shooter.
But the Z film timeline coupled with the Reports single bullet theory virtually rules out the possiblity that he was the only shooter.

Thus, those who must not be mentioned did nothing to 'aquit themselves well', they merely agreed with the Commissions line.

[dpa5923]

self ping for later read.

[Shooter 2.5]

[leprechaun9]

1. There was NO autopsy performed on the day of the assassination. The "Autopsy" was constructed from recollection of the two physicians who were in the ER that day. This was done on the following Monday.

2. The ER physicians used the hole (bullet?) in the front of JFK's neck for the tracheotomy. They did NOT make an incision.

3. The Warren Commission assumed that the hole in the front of JFK'd neck was made by the ER physicians. It was never considered as a possible bullet entry wound!

4. Senator Specter was asked if his position on the findings would change, if it was shown that the front neck wound was caused by a bullet. He felt that was too speculative!

[Rennes Templar]

Thanks, will check out that book. :)

[Havoc]

Oswald was working for us against Castro. The facts on the ground are that he was an extreme anti communist; but, he displayed pro-communist tendancies for the purpose of building a cover for himself in his anti-castro and anti-communist activities. Oswald appears to have actually been working for Bobby Kennedy's Freedom project which was run out of Bobby's office for security reasons. Everyone of any repute knew that Oswald wasn't a communist. It was so obvious it was early on considered that he was being sheep dipped as a communist to make him a good patsy. That is before much of the information we have now was out.

Who else knew or had access to the highly classified information restricted to a small circle around the President's brother? It's clear to me that Oswald was a patsy. The question then becomes, who is in the know that can use that as advantage. The coverup began immediately.
Before Oswald's name made it to the press. Remember, The limo at Parkland was pulled from public view when it was noted there was a bullet hole in the front windshield.

Stop and think about this for a moment. The car is open.
The whole interior is covered in blood. And the minute someone notes a hole in the windshield, the car disappears.
And not just A hole, a hole that entered through the front of the window and exited through the back according to the testimony of a 30 year expert in working with glass. Happens also to be the man from Ford who oversaw the replacement of said windshield and was ordered to destroy the original.

The Vice president was the one person on the ground in Dallas that day with the authority to pull those strings.
And the car was pulled before the American Public knew the name Lee Harvey Oswald.

According, though, to Fletcher Prouty (sp) Oswald's Bio was already being circulated in South America before Oswald was known here.

Who has the authority to do that? And how would they know who Oswald was to put out the cover story before anyone had a clue who he was. Remember, Oswald wasn't initially Oswald - he was ratted out under another name. A name that only the US government knew. Pretty handy.

[Havoc]

You have to look beyond the official story to the facts.
Look at who helped Oswald when he came back.. Garrison addresses this and it is part of the story in Oliver Stone's telling of the tale. That's a big Hint. ;) Oswald was an operative - an asset of the US intelligence and counter-intelligence community. The official story would be classified even if he were not a patsy for the assassination of a president. Like the Democrats, they could say anything about him they wanted because the truth was classified. You see how the Dems act today don't you. They lie about classified information until it's declassified then they change the subject and hope nobody remembers..

[Havoc]

All hands at parkland stated that the throat wound was an entrance wound and was opened up for a tracheotomy - that is to insert a breathing apparatus to aid in reviving Kennedy if possible. This information was relayed to Hume at the time of the autopsy. And all the eyewitness testimony in both cases state there was an entrance wound in the right temple and the back of the head was blown out. They also state that bullet paths were not traced in the autopsy. So I'm not sure where you're going.

[Shooter 2.5]

The crack, not hole in the glass. They also found bullet fragments that were so small, you need a magnifying glass.

[Shooter 2.5]

All hands??

The only one I know for sure that said something like that wrote a book and on the day it was released, the doctors were on the talk shows telling how they kicked him out of the room because he didn't have any business being there.

The Zapruder film shows the exit wound exploding. Small hole in, large hole out. It's called Hydrastatic shock.

[Havoc]

Sure, and Teddy, Bobby, and the whole Kennedy clan allowed LBJ to sit at JFK's desk and never a peep out of them for 40 years?

With Hoover on LBJ's side. Hoover and LBJ were the two most feared men in Washington at the time. Are you kidding?

[maestro]

..... They lie about classified information until it's declassified then they change the subject and hope nobody remembers........

Yep,......................This 'Case' is closed forever!

[Havoc]

Doctors at Parkland said the throat wound was an entrance - not an exit. That blows your story.

[Havoc]

The testimony on the ground is that Lovelady was wearing a red and white striped shirt that day. And much of the testimony that is relied upon with regard to all the events coming from the FBI reports was mistated according to witnesses who were reinterviewed later and attested that what was reported is the opposite or other than what they said. Lovelady isn't the man standing in the door unless he's capable of morphing into Oswald at will including a chameleon like capability of changing the color of his shirt for the cameras, shrinking, and opening the top half of the buttons of his shirt. Anyone want to contrast that with the magic bullet. Lotsa magic happening that day by the official story.

[Havoc]

Testimony from the person who replaced the window was that there was an actual hole that exited through the rear. I'll believe a 30 year veteran in the field who testified to it on tape and left it in writing. The guy had nothing to gain or loose by saying what he saw.

[Shooter 2.5]

I would rather believe the sworn testimony and the interviews with Lovelady than you.

The sworn testimony is on the web with the side by side pictures of Oswald, Lovelady and photograph. Knock yourself out. I already posted them once.

By the way, what happened to those bullets you claim injured the back and neck?

[Shooter 2.5]

I see pictures of a crack in the windshield. I don't see pictures or sworn testimony about a hole.

[Havoc]

According to the testimony in the 1978 hearings. The story from the doctors and witnesses at parkland were dismissed because it was said they conflicted with the statements from the doctors and witnesses at the autopsy. Turns out that was a lie and the testimony was in agreement - an entrance wound on the right temple and huge exit through the back. Hydrastatic shock is a red herring. A frangible will cause that kind of impact explosion and the bullet fragmented tremendously in the skull, which is not characteristic of the type of ammunition they say Oswald was using. Again, presuming Oswald even fired a weapon. The tests say he hadn't.

The person who has been fingered for the head wound was not only an exper assassin; but, was known for using frangibles when most of the community considered it an unworthy thing to do.

I'll tell you something else for nothing. I'm an artist. And more specifically, I'm a portrait artist. I've looked at the images presumably showing an intact back side of the head and I can point out the doctored part of the image. I work from photographs and from real life. The lucky thing for us is that at the time those photos were faked, the technology was so lacking and the art so crude that they left a trail that gives them away. Sorry. I didn't buy the official story in Highschool and the more I see the less I believe that story. Congress changed it's story to at least 4 shots at least 2 shooters in 78. Which official government story do you want to prostitute?

[Havoc]

I didn't ask you to believe me. I'm only observing the contradictions pointed out by the people that were interviewed and what the testimony shows. I'm not the source.

As regards the bullets. Who cares. Really? The testimony from Parkland and from the autopsy is that no one tracked the bullets. Everyone at both places testified to an entrance wound in the right temple and the back of the head blown away. What happened to the actual wounds that everyone saw who worked on him. We're not talking about a mass illusion. We're talking about skilled professionals who worked on and near the body at length.