Terri's Fight - (Daily Thread/Updates) November 19-23

Various | November 18, 2003 | sweetliberty

[sweetliberty]

(Thread 9 - November 19-23) Link back to thread 8 (Nov. 14-18)

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Contained in Thread 8:

Contact info for Judge Greer and the 6th DCA, link to argument between Pat Anderson and Judge Greer, Judge Baird's predetermination of the case, timeline of Terri's case, statutes being violated (also here) in Terri's case, contact information for Bernie McCabe and Jay Wolfson ( link to a better address for Bernie McCabe), super contact list for Florida courts, legislature, Senate and Washington, link to Gov. Bush's amicus curiae brief, Responding to Patients in the Persistent Vegetative State , a Christian parspective, PC93's letter of complaint against Michael Schiavo to demand criminal investigation and more contact information, contact information for the Florida Committee on guardianship, testimony of Jackie Rhodes, interesting article Is Wife-icide Legal In Florida(?), contact information for investigative ops and judicial operations, transcript of the Hannity and Colmes interview with the Schindlers, links to transcripts of other shows on Terri's case, contact information for Fox News shows, address to send Terri's birthday cards and contact information for advocacy center investigating Terri's abuse and neglect.

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Click on pic for Terri's website

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This thread serves as a place for posting all new general information and references, along with links following Terri's case, plus information on cable news and talk radio shows dealing with the issue, court cases and press releases. This is also the place to post contact information, prayers and general discussion.

If you have something that qualifies as BREAKING NEWS or FRONT PAGE NEWS, please post it on a separate thread in that category in order to give it maximum exposure and then post a link to the article/thread here so that it will be included in the next update of links. Also, if you post links to articles from original sources and there is also a thread on FR, please link to the FR thread. Many original links become corrupt over time and we want to be able to access the information at will.

INDEX OF TERRI THREADS ON FR

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Latest threads on Terri's Case:

A "Painless" Death?

Was Terri Schiavo Beaten in 1990? (Nat Hentoff)

His Fight to Give Terri Schiavo Communion

Terri's family appeals to Oprah fans

Terri Schiavo's Fight

Court Issues New Stay in Schiavo Case

Judge calls Terri's Law intrusive

Mom kept hope for girl who came out of vegetative state

Hannity & Colmes Tonight - Monday, 11-17-03 - Terri Schindler-Schiavo's Parents

"Terri's Lights" Campaign Raises Awareness of Terri Schiavo's Plight

Catholic Media Coalition Declares November 30, 2003 "Theresa Schindler Schiavo Day"

Terri's dad: 'She's literally been a prisoner'

Husband's attorney seeks end to delays in Schiavo case

Terri's Threads on FreeRepublic.com - 18 Nov 2003 0351 PST

[Orlando]

The Schindlers media advisors are not doing a good job,
I'm sorry ;(, but it's true ! Report these things, talk
about it on the air, don't be throwing soltballs to the devil and his demons , attack !!! Do or Die, but attack !!!
Tell the people about the rings, cats, neck, 3 childrens,
insurance $,attempted murder, judges and Jim King(R) connected with these hospise death camps,etc..etc..

It's okay, to fight fire with fire using the light of truth, justice, and God is not against that, he expects it !

MS is a killer, and he and his other demons like Felo$, Greer, and the other demons from hell are going to win...

I talk with alot of minority women, white women, and men
they are for Terri, but many won't get involved , because
of fear of the gov't, and legal system....It's true !

I inform them, pray & remenber the players here.
I talk about these are the end-times, and this time it
will be by Fire. I reported on the Sun activity last time,
and reported one day before the X-Class exp...s, many laugh
at me at first, but things were jumping during the same time terri was being punish and straved, and at the same moment she got her food/water back...it ended....

Next time...which is only days,week from now...
fire, and God is not happy with us, evil is out-of-control
and this test in Clearwater is almost completed...

Evil is winning, I suggest as a soul to you, prepare yourselfs, and love-ones...be ready to cross-over...
in a second time..... I see danger coming this way...

venting over.
Where's the pope ?
sad

[HiTech RedNeck]

Where's the pope ?

Whatever he's up to, I hope it isn't kissing more Korans. The leaders of the world's largest Christian denomination are getting soft.

[Graymatter]

Hi there! Best place to start is www.terrisfight.org

That's where you'll find "Basic Terri" and more. Meanwhile I'll try to sum it up.
Terri was alone with her husband when she collapsed in 1990, of unknown causes. No heart attack, but she was without oxygen for about 10 minutes. This caused severe brain damage. Her husband got a malpractice award from her doctors, for not diagnosing a potassium imbalance. Very soon after he got the money, specifically awarded for her care and therapy, he ordered NO rehabilitative therapy.
He tried to refuse her treatment of infections, too, so that she might die. Then a few years later he claimed to remember that Terri had said she wouldn't ever want to live with artificial life support, and he began trying to kill her legally. He calls this "letting her die."
Terri is not on artificial life support. She has a feeding tube in her stomach, nothing more. Her husband will not allow anyone to try to teach her how to eat by mouth, although she obviously has some swallowing ability.
The court has allowed her husband to kill her ("let her die") although she is NOT dying. The money awarded for her care has run out, a good portion of it gone to pay lawyers to achieve Terri's death.
Her parents and siblings love her and want to take care of her, and are trying to stop her husband from killing her. They say Terri can benefit from therapy; they believe that Terri's husband may have caused her condition; and they say his guardianship of her has been characterized by abuse and neglect.
Her husband says she is totally oblivious, unconscious, irreversibly brain-damaged, but has a right to privacy that protects her right to be killed, as he claims she wanted.
Terri left no written instructions or medical directive about her wishes. Her parents and friends don't believe the husband.
He has a "fiancee" and two children by this person. When he started trying to get Terri killed, he stood to inherit a million dollars by her death (her award money). Those who believe he caused her condition, think he wants to make sure she never learns to talk again.
He has gotten permission from the court to have her immediately cremated after death. Medical records indicate she had a lot of physical damage, including bone fractures, on admission to the hospital in 1990. Nobody knows how that happened.
He refused to take a lie detector test suggested recently on Larry King Live.
Hope that helps!

Graymatter, MSLD*


*Michael Schiavo Lie Detector :)

[trustandobey]

Sweetliberty, thanks so much for all you do! I'm not able to follow Terri's case like I once was, but lurk every chance I get. Your threads are awesome when there is so little time. Still praying..

[japaneseghost]

Thank you - now you NEED to get the insurance adjuster to understand - pls DO get the message through - why should the insurance co. pay. $1 M if she's sabotaged/killed?

PLAIN ENGLISH not 3 weeks of mumbo/jumbo will get it through to the powers that be....

[Orlando]

It dosen't look good for Terri,family,friends, and the good
people. We might lose her, just before Christmas. We even
got fools here on FR that want her dead too. They don't KNOW what we KNOW, but yet they want her murdered without
a trial.

All this kinds of reminds me of Jesus final hours, same group of fools. KILL HIM, KILL HIM....

now, it's KILL HER, KILL HER......she did nothing wrong
to deserve this horror,pain,suffering.

At least, I tryed and will keep trying to the last second
to save her, and us....

We have become a evil country, why did I serve it ?
vet out, good night for me

[texgal]

Dang .. I'm really out of the loop .. who is Carla

Carla Sauer Iyer is one of the women who cared for Terri in the past. I believe she has some sort of nursing certification. She gave an affidavit documenting Michael's behavior towards Terri and noted that Terri was not PVS and was capable of swallowing. The affidavit is posted on Terri's website. Carla stated that she believed that Michael was injecting Terri with insulin when he visited Terri in order to hasten her death. She has been stalked by Michael in the past because of her affidavit and appears to be threatened now.

[floriduh voter]

There MAY be a thread re: The Schindlers' recent appearance on Hannity & Colmes. Husband's counsel has moved on from claiming PVS because PUBLIC AWARENESS brought the truth out that Terri's not PVS.

So, Hubby's counsel is now concentrating on "Terri's wishes" instead. The parents were limited in what they could say on national television. We all know full well that TERRI HAD NO WRITTEN, ADVANCED DIRECTIVES. That was supposed to be the standard, unless you're MICHAEL SCHIAVO.

I bet you that Terri was wishin' for some nutrition and water when they tried to starve her A MONTH AGO.

[nicmarlo]

That's very good, T'wit!

[KDubRN]

Frustration and stress has a way of making a total gumball out of me.
Carla is a nurse who cared for Terri in 95-96.
A&E is arts and enterntainment. They shot the segment last eve. Not sure when it will be on TV.
Hammesfahr is a doc, neurologist, who has cared for Terri in the past. Feel Louse and MS have tried to discredit the guy.
MS would visit Terri. Frequently, she would show signs of hypoglycemic reaction after those visits. The blood sugar readings would be so low, they wouldn't register on the glucometer. Carla would have to give her glucose.
After one MS visit, there were insulin bottles in the trash. She contacted the police, since her concerns were met with indifference in the past by the administrators at the nsg home. They fired her.

[floriduh voter]

Terri is in a cerebral palsy type condition. Lots of disabled people are. She's been denied rehabilitation and JUDGES, HUSBAND AND EVEN THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY except for her doctors (who are not permitted to see her) WANT TO KILL TERRI SCHINDLER-SCHIAVO.

She cannot speak so her husband would ask us to believe that means she'd rather be dead than continue living which she's been doing since she collapsed 13 years ago.

Terri understands jokes, likes to listen to music, interacts with her mom and her brother and cries when her sister leaves.

THIS IS A MURDER IN PROGRESS. That's why we asked freepers to help us with PUBLIC AWARENESS and with calling our leaders and law enforcement. WE AREN'T DONE YET because THEY STILL WANT TO KILL TERRI.

Terri's retained rights are thrown into a ditch and hubby wants direct cremation, the sooner, the better.

Keep in mind though, people in the Beltway are following Terri's situation. The Feds could or may get involved if they're not already. If Terri is murdered, an investigation would mean nothing after the fact.

[KDubRN]

LE.......law enforcement

[floriduh voter]

She's a witness as a former nurse of Terri. That's important because some of the other nurse-witnesses are dumped somewhere in our lovely county.

[floriduh voter]

Just read your own tag line.

It's about Terri's will to live, her love of her parents and siblings, her perserverence and her ability to experience joy whether you'd want to be "like that" or not.

Terri needs rehabilitation and has been imprisoned in a room for 13 years. That is neglect and abuse.

Oh, and read the U.S. Constitution about our retained rights, even yours.

[KDubRN]

I send him weekly updates with bits that he can use to dig deeper. The Schindler's are very afraid of MS.
If you want to contact the alphabet networks, be my guest. I think they are biased and jerks.
The crier gal verbally assaulted Bobby Schindler on her court TV show.

[KDubRN]

She hasn't spoken to the media before this, has she?
No she has not.
She has a set of twins and a year old baby. And she's scared.

[KDubRN]

She is not PVS, nor comatose.
She is brain damaged and disabled.
She is alert, aware, and responsive to most forms of stimuli.
She swallows and handles her own secretions well.
Latest CT scan from 02 shows improvement.
Dr. Maxfield trained at Baylor and Johns Hopkins. Worked at Hopkins and Oschner Foundation, and head of radiology dept at LSU. 49 years as a radiologist.

He testified that Terri has brain tissue in all major structures of her brain. Says the most severe damage is in her occipital region and probably her eyesight is affected. Says it is possible for her to retain memories, as she still has tissue in that part of her brain.

And finally, he detects a change FOR THE BETTER between her 96 and 02 CT scans, which he attributes to the body's natural tendency to heal itself. Can brain tissue regenerate? YES!

Thus sayeth Dr. Maxfield, the most qualified of all 6 docs to read those scans.

And Felos says she has nothing in the cerebral cortex. No wonder the medical records are sealed.

[KDubRN]

We have federal laws to prevent rats from being starved and dehydrated in a laboratory setting.
We have a Constitution which specifically lays down our rights and liberties. Terri has no rights. She is brain damaged, and her husband, guardian, wants to kill her, so the courts say ok.
Murder is against the law.
That's the best I can state it.

[Mamzelle]

re: If I can relocate it, I'll post it if anyone's interested in looking at it. But for real, he was going on this cruise in Jan. 2004. A court date would totally screw that up for him, wouldn't it!)))

I'm sure the judge would work around it. Professional courtesy, y'know.

On the other hand, if there was a lot of publicity, it sure wouldn't be a pleasure cruise for Felos.

[sweetliberty]

Carla is one of the nurses who testified against the HINO, and proibably will again, now that the guardianship issue is back on the table.