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FOX News Channel's JFK: Case Not Closed
FOXnews ^ | Tuesday, October 28, 2003 | foxmarketwire.com

Posted on 11/15/2003 3:04:13 PM PST by Destro

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To: mlo
These are the facts. Posner is an idiot and so is anyone who professes to be "persuaded" by him.

The fact is that our government killed our president on a public street in Dallas. Why does that not offend you?
101 posted on 11/16/2003 8:13:18 PM PST by Iwo Jima
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To: sboyd
Correct. I have the film and have watched it many times, frame by frame and normal speed. He gets driven back and into Jacki's arms, exactly the way he would move if he was hit from the grassy knoll.
102 posted on 11/16/2003 8:17:38 PM PST by djf
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To: eastforker
I think the route was in that day's paper.
103 posted on 11/16/2003 8:19:37 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: Iwo Jima
The motorcade was moving at eleven miles an hour.

Check frame 313 and ask yourself if you would want to drive through that.
104 posted on 11/16/2003 8:23:11 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: djf
Only after his head moves forward and to the left.
105 posted on 11/16/2003 8:24:38 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: KC_Conspirator
Posners book was laughable, he used the Warren Commission as a referance, even though some of those witnesses he quotes have already refuted their Warren Commission testimony as manipulated by the commission.These witnesses have refuted the false testimony on film, audio tape, and video tape. A fact Posner obviously ommitted.
106 posted on 11/16/2003 8:27:12 PM PST by TJFLSTRAT
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To: Shooter 2.5
I don't know what you mean

How did JFK's blood and brain matter get sprayed all over the motorcycle cop riding behind and to the left of JFK's car other than due to a shot from the right front?

Has anyone ever duplicated what Oswald was supposed to have done? MANY have tried; all have failed, insofar as I know. It's an impossible feat.

It did not happen. What happened is that our government killed our president on a public street in Dallas and very few people care to know the truth. I care because if they can do it once, they will think that they can do it again. I fear for any president who gets crossways with the CIA as JFK did.
107 posted on 11/16/2003 8:32:55 PM PST by Iwo Jima
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To: The Mayor
The interesting thing is LBJ's SS opened that car door before JFK's limo turned onto Elm; it's on the Hughes's film, shut, then open.You can see it open on the Zapruder film too, before the first shot...
108 posted on 11/16/2003 8:33:56 PM PST by wolficatZ (___><))))*>____\0/____/|____"flipper to the rescue...")
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To: July 4th
A great book has just been reprinted (title is "The Man Who Knew Too Much") that links Oswald to US intelligence operations. It's a great read.
109 posted on 11/16/2003 8:34:48 PM PST by 185JHP ( PepsiOne for the men. Tab for the horses.)
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To: Iwo Jima
I didn't think you would understand.

Look at frame 313. Little entrance, big exit.
110 posted on 11/16/2003 8:48:10 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: Shooter 2.5
You are not making yourself clear. The "little entrance" was to the front of the skull. The "big exit" was to the back of the skull. Just as you would expect with a front shot.

If you think that "frame 313" shows something different, please post it so that we can discuss. I am capable of understanding anything that is understandable.
111 posted on 11/16/2003 8:53:20 PM PST by Iwo Jima
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To: Iwo Jima
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1020818/posts?q=1&&page=101

Post 116. Small entrance, big exit.
112 posted on 11/16/2003 9:10:26 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: The Mayor
Bill Miller rebukes the Oswald/Lovelady in the Altgens photo

http://www.jfklancerforum.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=3&topic_id=23513&mesg_id=23513&page=
113 posted on 11/16/2003 9:22:05 PM PST by wolficatZ (___><))))*>____\0/____/|____"flipper to the rescue...")
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To: eastforker
You're correct about the original route being changed.
Could have been LHO got the job knowing of the change, or could have been he was given the job so he'd unwittingly be there to serve as patsy.

As the police burst into the book depository building they encountered LHO in a 2nd floor lunch room getting a coke, cool as you please. An officer asked the boss if LHO worked there, answer affirmative, so they moved on. The elevator was at the top of the building. I can't imagine how LHO could have gotten out of the sniper's nest, down four flights of stairs to the other side of the building, witnessed by a co-worker in the lunch room, and be standing there chillin' when the officer and boss encountered him.

Another thing that has always disturbed me is how badly the witnesses were treated. God forbid they saw something the FBI didn't consider part of the official story. These people were intimidated. Some witnesses fled, some were killed or died strangely. There were so many strange things going on in Dallas that day.

Ten years ago I read everything I could find in print on the assassination, and have continued to since. Obviously one shouldn't believe everything you read, but many interesting points keep cropping up. One thing that is obvious: the Warren Commission blew it big time.

Jack Ruby was interviewed in jail by Chief Justice Earl Warren. Ruby kept telling Warren that he wasn't asking the right questions and that Ruby had much more to say. He asked to be taken to Washington for questioning. That never happened, of course, and Ruby died of one of those real fast-moving brain tumors.

Wish I could get cable out here. Looks like there will be some interesting shows on in the coming days.
114 posted on 11/16/2003 9:23:29 PM PST by ntnychik
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To: djf
How about exactly the way it would move if he was wearing a back brace and hit in the motor-function part of his brain. I'd think that combination might make one flop in all kinds of unlikely directions.
115 posted on 11/16/2003 9:24:28 PM PST by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: PLMerite
Would it make the blood and gray matter of your brain fly to the back and rear and splatter the motorcycle cop who was riding back there? Come on. JFK was killed by a head shot from the front. No two ways about it. What is it about you people who don't want to see the obvious???
116 posted on 11/16/2003 9:31:57 PM PST by Iwo Jima
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To: Shooter 2.5
You're hopeless. Why aren't you offended that our govenrment killed our president on a city street in Dallas? What's with it with you people?
117 posted on 11/16/2003 9:33:00 PM PST by Iwo Jima
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To: mlo
ScoochDude:
Jackie said that the reason she was trying to crawl on the trunk was to pick up his brain fragments that were spattered on the trunk (that is behind him)

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That's not true. Jackie never said any such thing.
Other people have speculated that she was doing that, but she wasn't.
71 mlo




So? -- What was she doing on the trunk?
And, -- how do you know her purpose for being there?
-78- tpaine


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118 posted on 11/16/2003 9:40:03 PM PST by tpaine (I'm trying to be 'Mr Nice Guy', but FRs flying monkey squad brings out the Rickenbacker in me.)
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To: armyboy
My question is if Kennedy was shot in the back of the head why did his head jerk backwards and the skull fragment behind him?

From The Unofficial JFK Assassination FAQ

5.5 The third shot

Oswald's third shot hit JFK in the cowlick area of the back of the head. JFK's head moved forward for a brief fraction of a second and then his body fell back and slumped to the left side. The explanation for the non-intuitive backwards reaction relies on many possible factors which would be almost impossible to duplicate in a single experiment. Some of the factors are: 1) JFK's nervous system had already been damaged by his first wound, whereby tissue displaced by the bullet pushed into his spinal cord, 2) the head shot created instant, massive damage to the nervous system, including stimulation of the nerves in the spinal cord, leading to a neuromuscular spasm, 3) the bullet made a small hole on entry, then created outward pressure in the soft tissue it displaced, caus-ing a large exit wound and the escape of pressure to the front (referred to as the "jet effect"), 4) JFK was wearing a back brace which stiffened his upper body, 5) the vehicle was moving.

119 posted on 11/16/2003 9:52:54 PM PST by MattAMiller
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To: ntnychik; Carry_Okie; farmfriend
"Chief Justice Earl Warren"

Well... that certainly wasn't the only thing that dumb bastard screwed up for this nation!!!

120 posted on 11/16/2003 10:04:28 PM PST by SierraWasp (Rural America has taxation without adequate representation!!! That's why there's Rural Cleansing!!!)
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