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In rare Jewish appearance, Soros says Jews and Israel cause anti-Semitism (Bush policies too!)
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| 11-7-03
| Uriel Heilman
Posted on 11/09/2003 8:05:32 AM PST by veronica
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To: veronica
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posted on
11/09/2003 9:47:40 AM PST
by
KC_for_Freedom
(Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
To: veronica
Though hes ranked as the 28th richest person in the United States by Forbes magazine with a fortune valued at $7 billion Soros has given scant money to Jewish causes.Sounds like he'd be happy to contribute to some nice little Jewish transportation cause -- like the Cattle Cars To Concentration Camps fund.
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posted on
11/09/2003 9:47:52 AM PST
by
Lazamataz
(PROUDLY SCARING FELLOW FREEPERS SINCE 1999 !!!!)
To: Celtjew Libertarian
Why is that ironic? Didn't Soros help create the massive economic crisis in south east asia a few years back via currency manipulation?
To: Akira
Who wrote his speech, Chomsky?Trotsky
To: FreedomSurge
The irony is that a Jew who has been the personal subject of anti-Semitic attacks would be blaming fellows Jews for the attacks.
It would be -- to use a metaphor used elsewhere on this thread -- a rape victim blaming other women for rape, rather than rapists.
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posted on
11/09/2003 10:04:05 AM PST
by
Celtjew Libertarian
(Shake Hands with the Serpent: Poetry by Charles Lipsig aka Celtjew http://books.lulu.com/lipsig)
To: veronica
Lets understand things clearly: Anti-Semitism is not caused by Jews; its caused by anti-Semites, said Elan Steinberg, senior advisor at the World Jewish Congress.
Excellent analysis. We could take it even further and say:
- AIDS is not caused by a lack of clean needle giveaway programs. It is caused by addicts injecting themselves with drugs using contaminated needles.
- Overdoses are not caused by a lack of government-run injection centers. They are caused by addicts injecting themselves with drugs.
- Robbery and burglary are not caused by the WOD. They are caused by robbers and burglars.
- Prison rape is not caused by the WOD. It is caused by rapists.
- Drive-by shootings are not caused by the WOD. They are caused by drive-by shooters.
- Gun violence is not caused by guns, but by those engaged in gun violence.
To: lormand
Soros doesn't hate himself; he loves himself. It's other Jews he hates, excepting of course other Jewish millionaires.
I hate admit it, but like a stopped clock, even Abe Foxman is right on occasion.
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posted on
11/09/2003 10:26:29 AM PST
by
mrustow
(no tag)
To: lormand
Exactly. If only their self-hatred consumed only them, we would be rid of those destructive to an entire people.
28
posted on
11/09/2003 11:06:18 AM PST
by
tubavil
To: Cultural Jihad; yall
"There is a resurgence of anti-Semitism in Europe.
The policies of the Bush administration and the Sharon administration contribute to that.
It´s not specifically anti-Semitism, but it does manifest itself in anti- Semitism as well. I´m critical of those policies."
-Soros-
"Let's understand things clearly: Anti-Semitism is not caused by Jews; it's caused by anti-Semites"
-Steinberg-
Soros did not say 'Anti-Semitism is caused by Jews" .. He said, - "policies of the Bush administration and the Sharon administration contribute to" anti-semitism.
Excellent analysis.
-CJ-
No, Stienbergs remark is an excellent example of agit-prop.
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posted on
11/09/2003 11:09:53 AM PST
by
tpaine
(I'm trying to be 'Mr Nice Guy', but FRs flying monkey squad brings out the Red Baron in me.)
To: veronica
As a prosperous Jewish child of Holocaust survivors, who lives not a 5 minute walk from Soros' NYC home, and makes a nice living competing with the man, I am physially repelled by this.
To: NativeNewYorker; everyone
"In rare Jewish appearance, Soros says Jews and Israel cause anti-Semitism"
-Uriel Heilman-
NativeNewYorker wrote:
As a prosperous Jewish child of Holocaust survivors, who lives not a 5 minute walk from Soros' NYC home, and makes a nice living competing with the man, I am physially repelled by this.
I don't 'get it'..
Obviously, Soros did not say this.. The article, and the quotes by Soros attackers, are agit-prop..
What exactly has Soros done that engengers all this hatred for him?
[I am not his supporter, just curious]
31
posted on
11/09/2003 11:39:19 AM PST
by
tpaine
(I'm trying to be 'Mr Nice Guy', but FRs flying monkey squad brings out the Red Baron in me.)
To: lormand
Ah yes, the self-hating Jew.
The man eager to apologize to Himmler, Heydrich, and Arafat for his own people's stubborn desire for liberty, even as the latter desires to fire up a new row of ovens.
Be Seeing You,
Chris
32
posted on
11/09/2003 11:41:50 AM PST
by
section9
(Major Kusanagi says, "Click on my pic and read my blog, or eat lead!")
To: veronica
When asked about anti-Semitism in Europe, Soros, who is Jewish, said European anti-Semitism is the result of the policies of Israel and the United States. And what does Soros believe was the cause of Euro anti-Semitism before Israel even existed? ....You know, the time when 6 million were slaughtered?
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posted on
11/09/2003 11:42:19 AM PST
by
Mr. Mojo
To: Mr. Mojo
what --- was the cause of Euro anti-Semitism before Israel even existed? ....You know, the time when 6 million were slaughtered?
-mojo-
"The continuous disasters of man's history are mainly due to his excessive capacity and urge to become identified with a tribe, nation, church or cause, and to espouse its credo uncritically and enthusiastically, even if its tenets are contrary to reason, devoid of self-interest and detrimental to the claims of self-preservation. We are thus driven to the unfashionable conclusion that the trouble with our species is not an excess of aggression, but an excess capacity for fanatical devotion.
-Arthur Koestler-
'The disaster of history in the modern day middle east is mainly due to mans excessive capacity and urge to become identified with a tribe, nation, religion or cause, and to espouse its credo uncritically and enthusiastically, even if its tenets are contrary to reason & survival.'
- paraphrasing Koestler-
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posted on
11/09/2003 11:53:30 AM PST
by
tpaine
(I'm trying to be 'Mr Nice Guy', but FRs flying monkey squad brings out the Red Baron in me.)
To: tpaine
Mr. Soros is not known for his subtlety or mainstream rhetoric. There is nothing in this article that I deem impossible for him to have spoken.
Naturally I am assuming the article is accurate, and reacting accordingly.
To: NativeNewYorker; yall
"In rare Jewish appearance, Soros says Jews and Israel cause anti-Semitism"
-Uriel Heilman-
NativeNewYorker wrote:
As a prosperous Jewish child of Holocaust survivors, who lives not a 5 minute walk from Soros' NYC home, and makes a nice living competing with the man, I am physially repelled by this.
I don't 'get it'..
Obviously, Soros did not say this..
The article, and the quotes by Soros attackers, are agit-prop..
What exactly has Soros done that engengers all this hatred for him?
[I am not his supporter, just curious]
31 -tpaine-
NativeNewYorker wrote:
Mr. Soros is not known for his subtlety or mainstream rhetoric. There is nothing in this article that I deem impossible for him to have spoken.
Naturally I am assuming the article is accurate, and reacting accordingly
Typical. -- You can't really answer my question, so you imply there is something in the article that Soros said that justified the attacks.
What is it? -- Where's the 'beef'?
THe silence here is deafening.
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posted on
11/09/2003 12:27:22 PM PST
by
tpaine
(I'm trying to be 'Mr Nice Guy', but FRs flying monkey squad brings out the Red Baron in me.)
To: tpaine
State your question in a format that I understand, and I'll answer it.
To: NativeNewYorker; everyone
What exactly has Soros done that engengers all this hatred for him?
31 tpaine
NativeNewYorker wrote:
State your question in a format that I understand, and I'll answer it.
Why is Soros hated?
At #36 you said:
"I am physially repelled by this."
What 'repelled' you?
38
posted on
11/09/2003 2:15:33 PM PST
by
tpaine
(I'm trying to be 'Mr Nice Guy', but FRs flying monkey squad brings out the Red Baron in me.)
To: yall; veronica; NativeNewYorker; everyone
What exactly has Soros done that engengers all this hatred for him?
31 tpaine
NativeNewYorker wrote:
State your question in a format that I understand, and I'll answer it.
Why is Soros hated?
At #30 you said:
"I am physially repelled by this."
What 'repelled' you?
39
posted on
11/09/2003 2:18:16 PM PST
by
tpaine
(I'm trying to be 'Mr Nice Guy', but FRs flying monkey squad brings out the Red Baron in me.)
To: tpaine
1) Soros is hated by many on the political right for his enormous funding of their lefty opponents. Personally, I think he's within his rights to dispose of his property as he sees fit, and support the causes he chooses, tho I may disagree with him.
2) My revulsion here is at his promoting the notion that the victims of anti-semitism, which included many many members of my family, somehow brought it on themselves.
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