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Al Qaeda again threatens New York, Washington and Los Angeles - Daily Terror Threat
Debka ^ | 11-3-2003 | Staff

Posted on 11/03/2003 9:17:27 AM PST by tubavil

Edited on 01/26/2004 3:58:09 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

Monday, November 3, 2003

A new message was posted in the last few hours by the Jeddah-based al-Qaeda-linked Al-Islah (Reform) society calling on Muslims to flee New York, Washington and Los Angeles in advance of major al Qaeda attacks in those cities. This is revealed by DEBKAfile.

The message accuses the United States of predetermining its end (doom) by its policies. ?The Jews rule the Pentagon by remote control and (are the cause) of Muslims being killed in every corner of the world. The United States should therefore expect more blows.?

The message is signed on behalf of the al Bayan (The Threat) movement by ?your warrior brother, Abul Hassan al Khadrami?.

Our Muslim expert identifies the name of the signatory as belonging to a Yemeni from Hadhrameuth, the Bin Ladens? place of origin where Osama enjoys substantial tribal support.

DEBKAfile?s counter-terror sources stress that warnings appearing on these forums are taken both very seriously and with caution by the intelligence services keeping track of the terrorist network?s electronic traffic.

Last November, Jeddah-based fundamentalist forums addressed a message to an Al Qaeda member, saying whoever understands ? understands; whoever knows, knows, but we are marching towards an operation that will take us to Paradise. Three days later, the Mombasa Paradise hotel was blown up killing 12 Kenyans and 3 Israelis and a failed shoulder-launched Strela anti-air missile missed an Israeli airliner at Mombasa airport.

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To: Domestic Church
Thanks, DC...noted.
7,661 posted on 01/07/2004 12:07:48 PM PST by hummingbird ("If it wasn't for the insomnia, I could have gotten some sleep!")
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To: freeperfromnj
What did he say? I turned her off because she advertised the Britney thing or something like that.
7,662 posted on 01/07/2004 12:08:32 PM PST by WestCoastGal ("Hire paranoids, they may have a high false alarm rate, but they discover all the plots" Rumsfeld)
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To: Domestic Church; aristeides
>>But that raises the question: how were the terrorists able to learn and take advantage of the timing of that exercise? Just as we've had to wonder how they later that morning showed knowledge of White House codes and communication procedures."


1. An FBI agent. ( Arab FBI agent who refused to tape AlArian, assigned to Saudi Arabia as a counterterror liasion, now on leave/suspension - no reason given.
Msg recvd at WH - Angel is next. Angel = AF1 (Woodward's Bush at War.

2. The PTECH connection; software that is customised when installed.. Therefore one has to know the decision points, info flow, and other processes. Software sold to various govt agencies including military ones.

3. Above caused them to piggyback their attacks on top of an official exercise.
7,663 posted on 01/07/2004 12:09:15 PM PST by swarthyguy
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To: jerseygirl
Yes there were several different occasions that more than one visited the restroom at the same time, not terror related I don't think. Has anyone here checked out the restrooms on the planes lately? Is there anyplace to hide something?
7,664 posted on 01/07/2004 12:10:08 PM PST by WestCoastGal ("Hire paranoids, they may have a high false alarm rate, but they discover all the plots" Rumsfeld)
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To: WestCoastGal
They were mostly discussing nuclear proliferation out of Pakistan -- they pretty much stayed on that topic.
7,665 posted on 01/07/2004 12:10:28 PM PST by freeperfromnj
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To: liz44040
Are you having back surgery? If so, then email me and I'll tell you what to expect from my personal and very positive experience.
7,666 posted on 01/07/2004 12:11:31 PM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: freeperfromnj
Thanks, that's odd to me since he usually has information on BL. The last time he said BL was in Iran according to his sources.(I think)
7,667 posted on 01/07/2004 12:12:48 PM PST by WestCoastGal ("Hire paranoids, they may have a high false alarm rate, but they discover all the plots" Rumsfeld)
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To: jerseygirl
I lost three close friends and many acquaintances on 9/11.

Maybe they are the ones who are off their rocker?
7,668 posted on 01/07/2004 12:15:47 PM PST by Mossad1967
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To: jerseygirl
I lost three close friends and many acquaintances on 9/11.

Maybe they are the ones who are off their rocker?
7,669 posted on 01/07/2004 12:15:49 PM PST by Mossad1967
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To: WestCoastGal
he usually has information on BL

Yes he usually does. I was disappointed that they didn't discuss the current threats. I always look forward to his appearance on Fox.

7,670 posted on 01/07/2004 12:15:54 PM PST by freeperfromnj
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To: freeperfromnj
I saw the two Arab looking guys at the gym last night and one of the guys was wearing his "I love Mecca" t-shirt. First time I've seen them since the begininig of Ramabomb. They have both grown thick beards in the last two months. I wonder where they have been and what they have been doing.
7,671 posted on 01/07/2004 12:22:34 PM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: Labyrinthos
I wonder where they have been and what they have been doing.

Preparing for jihad? Still no sign of the Yemeni fruit vendor. I'm tempted to ask the coffee & donut vendor on the corner what happened to the fruit guy.

7,672 posted on 01/07/2004 12:26:20 PM PST by freeperfromnj
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To: freeperfromnj
I started looking for more info on Ijaz and found this.


http://www.benadorassociates.com/article/243



Excerpt
Constructing the Tools of Armageddon

AL QAEDA has explosives expertise that is unsurpassed in non-military circles. It gets military-grade C4 charges from China and Iran; it employs Hezbollah and Hamas guerillas trained in the fine arts of detonation devices (witness particularly the maritime attacks against the USS Cole and the French oil tanker); and it has brainwashed legions of men who are willing to die for the cause.

What's missing? Plutonium, and the scientific expertise to build a crude but highly explosive nuclear bomb. (Plutonium is more easily transported without detection and offers a bigger bang for the buck than typical enriched uranium devices.)

Who's supplying the material and expertise? North Korea, and, surprisingly, our ally in the war against al Qaeda, Pakistan. Pyongyang--with a lot of help from China (which is supplying key chemicals to separate plutonium from depleted uranium) and Pakistan (which gave North Korea its uranium enrichment centrifuges and tutored its nuclear scientists)--will be able to churn out Coke cans of plutonium at the rate of one per week by the end of March.

According to my intelligence sources in the Far East, the outlying renegade provinces of Indonesia (Aceh, for example) and the Philippines (where al Qaeda affiliate Abu Sayyaf rules) are infested with senior al Qaeda leaders. Each one is financially empowered to purchase North Korea's plutonium the moment it is reprocessed. Ayman Zawahiri, al Qaeda's number two, was reportedly in Indonesia last September, a month before the Bali bomb blast that killed 200 mostly Australian tourists. He could easily be there again.

We also know from published--and so far undisputed--reports that from February 2000 until July 2002, eight senior Pakistani nuclear scientists left their country without obtaining the required No Objection Certificates needed for travel abroad. They remain unaccounted for and at least some are reported to have traveled to Australia and Indonesia.

In a worst case scenario, al Qaeda could construct a crude but effective nuclear device in weeks, if not a month, from Hezbollah C4, North Korean plutonium, and a little nuclear expertise from disaffected Pakistani scientists. Making a "dirty" radiological dispersion device with Strontium or Cesium also remains an option, although it is clear that al Qaeda has the intent and resources to go for weapons that cause maximum collateral damage.

Add to this troubling possibility the fact that the terror group has resorted to the use of seafaring vessels to move its people around, and now has a fleet large and diverse enough that one or two could seamlessly move into a large harbor or congested waterway undetected, and a picture emerges of an unparalleled potential threat to the global economy from the paralysis that could be caused by a crude plutonium bomb exploding in the belly of an al Qaeda ship with bin Laden onboard.
7,673 posted on 01/07/2004 12:27:01 PM PST by WestCoastGal ("Hire paranoids, they may have a high false alarm rate, but they discover all the plots" Rumsfeld)
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To: LayoutGuru2
Machine translation of message #9:

 A message Its sounds (With the tape text ) from one of leaders the fighting in Iraq he warns of the refusing danger in Iraq

A Yakhoan listened what says The militant is Walid Alkholani 's father that Allah guided about the Shiites in Iraq

And he seeks support sheikhs The nation

He squinted and a power except by Allah

http://muth.bluedusk.net/files/resalat.rm

Your governor is the tape text :

The praise of Allah praises him and we seek help from him and a Wnouthballh seeks forgiveness from him from souls evils and from the sins of our works who Allah demolishes then no Mzl for it and who misleads then no guide to it and testify that no god except Allah and testify that Muhammad Abdou and its messenger

As for after O the monotheism scientists that by Tahia Ihl the paradise by Tahia Ihl greet the belief immortal  Peace, mercy and blessings of Allah be upon you it

I ask Allah the most Exalted that he makes what I say and what you hear  A pure for Allah's sake and that he benefits by it is guardian that and capable of it .

O the monotheism scientists I send to you this strip from Iraq land amidst the events that take place in Iraq and what happens in it from plans and conspiracies from the religion enemies from the Americans and the British and their aides bestowed the refusing grandsons the damnable Ibn Alalqmi on it from Allah what deserves that have prepared their equipment and planned between them for an important and great target so and he is the eradication of our brothers the Sunnis in Iraq and exterminated them and their displacement to they manage who their country replaced an Alrafdia with the second the control of their doctrine Alrafda the imitation of their brothers in the hamlet country of Iran and with fast consideration of number seats the refusing in the atheistic Interim Governing Council  And we compared it with the number of Sunnis seats  In the atheistic Interim Governing Council for our knowledge immediately that the charity its signs have appeared for the enabling of an Alrafza of the domination of Iraq and this is the result now then each important thing in this country became in the refusing hands the Ministry of Petroleum by their hands the Ministry of Defence by their hands is any of the moneys and the weapon O the Sunna scientists he became by the refusing hands and under their handling  Then when what got the start signal from their ÇáØæÇÛíÊ scientists and he is very close then he will grant men and old and young women to the sacred war on the Sunnis in Iraq on  Their claim then they always repeat between them in their sittings and their forums the revenge the revenge on Kirkuk and Al Anbar  And these as know from Ihl houses the Sunna 0

A Foallh if they gave the start signal and the Sunnis did not move in the Islamic world to an aid  Their brothers the Sunnis in Iraq then grandsons Ibn Alalqmi coming and preparing by what with them from the money and the weapon for the eradication of the Sunnis in Iraq because they in their killing to the Sunni offer their entrance to a committee as believe that then O the Sunna scientists he is secure that believe in Allah a Lord and by a Mohammedan Wbalaslam Dina Yamn 's prophet you memorize its saying that was above ( but the believers are brothers ) O who memorize its saying peace be upon him in the Hadith that Muslim interpreted ( the Muslim is the Muslim brother he does not wrong it and do not let down it and do not depreciate it ) or as he said peace be upon him 0 he is secure that a connection gathers the religion with the Sunnis in Iraq as to the time came so that you rush and you wake up from your inattentiveness and seek support to your brothers the Sunnis in Iraq then each blood is shed from the Muslims in Iraq you will ask about it in front of Allah Day whereon neither wealth nor sons will avail had you not you moved and issued the fatwas and clarified to the Islamic Nation a truth what plans to it the refusing from the eradication of our brothers in the Sunnis in Iraq as to the time came you the scientists  For the incitement of resolutions  Sons the Muslims and the instilling in their hearts are the loyalty dogma and Albraa who liquefied in this time and there in no strength but in Allah and a notification the Muslims are that the refusing is danger them greater Wshrrhm from the danger of the Americans and others then these  The refusing the spiteful are not for them an enemy in this time except the Sunnis then they a living does not enjoy them and do not sleep for them ayn except when they order and perish the Sunnis without exception them and this is the result now have held the deal with the Americans and their allies and took the booty ready and cold then these expect from the Americans the start signal then see by your eyes O Muslims how he appears their true enmity and he shows the hidden malice effects and appears  Their cunning and their failure then you will watch how they do not refrain from the killing of women and junior from the Sunnis before the killing of the seniors and its hour will watch the Islamic Nation in Iraq from the tragedies what the forehead is ashamed to it from the killing and a displacement and the rape and a destruction of the mosques and all this of a result no its shops if we did not prepare the equipment for the eradication of their damnable plan and their exposure and the clarification of their disbelief and their malice and their runner to the Sunnis then no escape from the hurrying in the clarification of the refusing truth from the antiquity and what they did  The Sunnis right then do we forget what the damnable atheist Alrafda did Ibn Alalqmi when he helped the Tatarian armies in the eradication of the Islamic caliphate in Baghdad and what its remoteness from the killing and the displacement happened in the Muslims and what happened from a sinking of the Muslims books and their references in the river all for the sake of the eradication of the Sunnis dogma and their history and their making ignorant until they become after that prepared for the entrance into the Shiite method are for the increase of their number and their blackness no Allah Kthrhm then what assimilated today by the yesterday then as enabled Ibn Alalqmi to the Tatarian in Baghdad then there they are its grandsons they enable the Americans age Tatarian and as he burned Ibn Alalqmi and its Tatarian aides its grandsons on a gullet and a hearing from their Americans aides have carried out the burning of the Sunnis books belonging to the Ministry of Religious Endowments library until he wondered in that common people and did not find therefore a reason and what knew  They enter the self stone that the first Dbhm then also entered did we forget what the Rawafid Alabidion did the Sunnis concern .And in this age did we forget what the Shiite Amal movement did in the aid of the Christian Maronite battalions and the Jewish in Lebanon in year 1982 DAY where Sbra Wshtila massacre happened and what she left from the killing of the innocent from the women and the children and the sheikhs where they were besieged in Sbra Wshtila camp after a departure the fighters Palestinian from Lebanon in an agreement so and she that the interference of the international emergency forces until she protects  The camps  And the conditions were when the Palestinian fighters leave the interference of the emergency troops but when the Palestinian fighters left only the women and the children and the sheikhs remained and at that time she did not enter the emergency troops except after the terrible massacre that was killed in it approximately about 5500 of the women and the children and the sheikhs in the refusing hands from an Amal movement and the battalions from the Christians and the Jewish ended then he did not kill these by the weapon and they killed them by the knives and the hatchets where they carried out their cutting through the night of its one then granted respite you the scientists  To the spite of this refusing in particular where they did not kill them by the firearms but this refusing is the damned that wanted their torturing by the killing before they are killed then they cut them a cutting so that they taste that pass it the torture then these are not in their hearts a mercy and no its twilight they have killed the children in front of the eyes of their mothers and their fathers so that they suffer by that then does after that he understand by us that we say if with this refusing a religion or interests or a homeland gathers us or other than that from the matters that circulated in this time then do we think that they will live with our brothers the year in Iraq peacefully and a love under and one ton from he said that then he is more astray than the donkey of its family and do not know the truth of the refusing dogma .And the examiners of refusing states the Arabs know that they are the severest malice and the more hatred of the Sunnis from their brothers the non-Arab and specially a refusing are Iraq then I follow you briefly what this refusing did in Iraq after the waiving of the Ba'athi Saddam regime for the deliberation of the truth of their spite and their hatred  The Sunnis .

First : when came the dead tyrant is Mohammad Baqer Al-Hakim Allah's curse be on it one of their biggest references to Iraq after the waiving of the Ba'athi Saddam regime  He in Baghdad ordered the transference of 20 mosques from Ihl mosques  The year  To a Hsiniat and this only in Baghdad then he adapted by the remainder of the other regions then talk and no embarrassment then in Basra for example I converted Ihl mosques the year to a Hsiniat and prevented speeches  Friday that in it and to what the Sunnis went to the dead tyrant Mohammad Baqer Al-Hakim is established and sued to it that that said for them by all irony and maliciously a buried you for you 4000 mosques of Wtstkhsron on us took 20 mosques from your mosques this do not suffice us oh that it may God curse him have premeditated the intention for the transference of Ihl mosques the year to a Hsiniat all over Iraq and known that the role of the refusing worship that my mosques do not name acquits from it but a Hsiniat names it and he may God curse him was for it a fatwa he says in it the resistance of the Americans and the resistance of the Americans do not become permissible  In this stage he is not a jihad because they are editors .

A second :  We know that Alrafda 's Badr Brigade army who its president was the dead idol Mohammad Baqer Al-Hakim was a coach a good military training at the hands of the Iranian forces and was fighting the Ba'athi Saddam regime but when he fell  The Ba'athi Saddam regime  If by it he surprises by instructions from verses carry out the seizure of the heavy weapons of Iraq and the light one and its storage in the desert near the Iranian borders for the eradication of the Sunnis if what were ordered that .

A third :  When he saw the refusing  The force is the Sunni Islamic an Almqawa the one that the Salafi militants carried out are the monotheism owners and the pure dogma from hitting the Americans and their allies and the infliction of the losses they them the one after the other they decided quickly the establishment of the atheistic Interim Governing Council and the foundation of an army of Iraq and this army who have insinuated to Alrafda 's full moon Army troops the joining of it at the orders of their signs in a remoteness that when he descends and the Americans escape  And their allies to their bases faces this Iraqi army is Alrafda for the extermination of the militants from the Sunnis in Iraq where they can that they lie to the year publics in Iraq that they will help them in the eradication of the terrorists as claim that so that the woollen of the Sunnis co-operates with them in that then if they managed the eradication on the fighting and this God willing an impossible its achievement then after that they are alone to them the atmosphere by eliminating the Sunnis in Iraq a Foallh is that it have started the settlement of the Sunnis from now then after the killing of the wise dead tyrant they carried out the entrance of Ihl mosques the year you protect Iraq and a killing are some of them they have killed the doctors and the engineers from the Sunnis and carried out the killing of one of the Arab militants in the revolution district and its relating to its head and to Giteh and they boast that they killed one of the Wahhabi that and also carried out the delivery of some of the Arab militants to the Americans against 2500 dollar and an escape or build an Alhsiniat in the Sunnite regions and lodge in their regions the recorders Winshouon an Alrafdia in the Sunnite regions  And there are regions the Palestinians and the Syrians living in it then they brought them and stopped their place and the Syrians as know they the chased from Hamah events also they started suspending signs written on it we enjoy the nation with Al-Mahdi 's birth and mean with that start with the formation of army nucleus Al-Mahdi Almntzr and started the street Bsbghon and the Iraqi reality with the Shiite nature then the revolution city became its debtor the chest is Al Amin 's inspiration became the satisfaction city and the street of pens father he became the guided street and this for example for the count .  Then the reality is painful and the diamonds its area has broadened of what the occasion does not suffice for its mention  Until that lots of the Sunnis have changed the names of their sons from Amr and Ubay Bakr to Ali and Haidar and from Aesha to the bright a fear for souls and their families from the killing and became commenting on Baghdad Isoarmdina what in it from the insulting  With the accompanying May Allah be pleased with him them May Allah be pleased with him them and the insulting also by the Wahhabi and Mu'awiyah 's cursing may Allah be pleased with it he became familiar   Then this all they do it and they up till now did not finish the foundation of the army Alrafda then how if they finished its foundation then what do  .On  The immediately after they take the initiative  With the killing of the Sunnis in Iraq  Then O the Sunna scientists  O the monotheism scientists do we trust after that by the promises of these Rawafid do their spite and their cunning seclude us and what did it by the Sunna from the antiquity do we believe after all this that it will is there a coexistence and a love and a peace between them and between the year in  Iraq is a mother say as said Alkbisi in  Iraq Allah whitened your faces O Iraq Shiites as whitened our faces

 

O the Sunna scientists O the monotheism scientists come round you and clarify to the Islamic Nation the truth of these Rawafid a Foallh if you know that it in the killing of the wise dead tyrant a strong blow of the refusing and this God's bounty he pleased by it the monotheists hearts because they were preparing it for Iraq presidency and all of us know what this tyrant did from before in the Sunnis concern he was killed  Lots of the year then this dead criminal was transmitting always in its speeches the enmity of the Sunnis and that who killed them he has taken revenge for Ali Bin Abi Taleb that was pleased  Allah about it and on from it recovered and that it no escape from the transmission of the enthusiasm in the refusing sons and the preparation for the sacred war against the Sunna   All this says it always in the secrecy between an Alrafza then if he appeared in the masses media if by it he lies and he obliterates the truth and repeats always that it no enmity between Iraq people from the year and the Shiites and the malicious lying and ask you the Iraqi prisoners in Iran they talk to you about it . One of them have narrated that the malicious their camp reached a day and so that he comes the year on a side he said and he was carrying by its hand a Mqrat and started that praises in the meats of their chests and mention that the dead malicious is Badr Brigade official who carried out by the insinuation of Iran the burning of all of the military factories and the civilization after looting a Mhtoayatha until that you when she moves in Baghdad streets see this apparent for the sight .Then also there one of their references then the idol fell Moqtada Al-Sadr have repeated in one of  Its matter after a waiving is the Ba'athi Saddam regime that they will reckon who he is not supported on Ubay Taleb 's son may Allah be pleased with it and a meaning is that any we will reckon with you O do the year and we will fight you and eliminate you and will not have mercy on you then do after that you the scientists he requires from you the silence and the expression repetition of departments and the corruptions and the non causing the sedition between the Sunnite and the refusing one and the making ignorant of the Muslims sons by this truth and being informed as Amr may Allah be pleased with it said oh Allah that I complain to you the inability of the confidence and the libertine skin then the falsehood people on their falsehood strong defend them and argue about it and they show it and master it and mention the people to it an exhortation and an intimidation and this is a refusing state Iraq then does he be necessary for us and accept for us what Alkbisi accepted that when he said by all a defeatist leave the Shiites they judge  And when he accepted for us the hamlet he said no preventing the emergence of a علمانية country in Iraq if she was realizing the justice .

O the monotheism scientists  O the Sunna scientists  They and Allah they kill us that the lists of Ihl names the year in their hands she will not end do you wait until the deliberation of our blood it flows in Iraq valleys and will your eye rejoice when Tigris colour reddens by our blood .

Our better brothers are that we want from you that your faces redden an anger about Allah and a defence for the religion and its family and an understanding for the truth from the falsehood then from the remoteness of Allah for us except you O the monotheism boys and Allah and Allah  All a Sunni sticking to its religion in Iraq and especially in its apparent guidance will not wait for its role when she drops its neck because it is as claimed by the refusing Wahhabi and malicious and Allah they have seen one day one of the Sunnis he laughs a day after the killing of the sage a chance then they sent to it  By its house a threat that you are murdered no its shops and abandoned its house  And its family then what wait for Allah the complaining  And enough Allah and how excellent the agent is a Foallh will reckon in front of Allah and the Muslims sons will not forgive you about your silence and their disappointment . then there we connect to you the truth a complete from Iraq land so that the argument depends on you and no he is on you an excuse in that .

Oh Allah did I tell oh Allah then I testify . 

And Allah invoked peace upon our prophet Mohammad and upon its family and accompanied it as a wholes

 

Your brother is from Iraq land Abu Al-Walid Alkholani        24  /   7   /   1424 هـ

7,674 posted on 01/07/2004 12:30:42 PM PST by LayoutGuru2 (Call me paranoid but finding '/*' inside this comment makes me suspicious)
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To: jerseygirl
My friends think I'm off my rocker for worrying about terrorism.

My friends think I'm totally nuts also. They think that I've made up the stuff that I relay from here. The fact that we've been attacked once means nothing to them, until it happens again, and they seem incapable of connecting the dots to recognize the real concern among those charged with homeland security. They won't worry until Petedantom tells them to.

7,675 posted on 01/07/2004 12:32:44 PM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: liz44040
New message fro EOM:

EOM
Alhaam hu Akhbar Is time prepare for hajj
Wed Jan 7 2004 3:29:54 pm
213.150.189.170

As-salaamu alaykum

is time to prepare for the hajj the jihad falcon is in flight severnaya project readied and prepared for delivery


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In the name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful. Praise be to Allah, Lord of Creation. The Compassionate, The Merciful, King of Judgement Day


EOM
Islamic Bayan Movement

7,676 posted on 01/07/2004 12:33:27 PM PST by Mossad1967
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To: freeperfromnj
Preparing for jihad?

Does one grow a thick beard or shave their beard in preperation for Jihad?

7,677 posted on 01/07/2004 12:34:22 PM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: Mossad1967
Did he say the falcon "is" in flight last time too? I forgot.
7,678 posted on 01/07/2004 12:37:09 PM PST by WestCoastGal ("Hire paranoids, they may have a high false alarm rate, but they discover all the plots" Rumsfeld)
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To: Labyrinthos
Back in the 1980's when I was in Egypt a long beard was the mark of an Islamic fundamentalist. Many middle of the road Egyptian men wouldn't wear a beard because they didn't want that connotation - it would guarantee a traffic stop!

I have read that when preparing for martyrdom a "shaheed" (their word - mine would be to homicidal idiot) is supposed to shave himself all over.

So in other word... both...
7,679 posted on 01/07/2004 12:37:29 PM PST by StillProud2BeFree
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What do you make of this one?
7,680 posted on 01/07/2004 12:38:52 PM PST by comingsoon
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