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Al Qaeda again threatens New York, Washington and Los Angeles - Daily Terror Threat
Debka ^ | 11-3-2003 | Staff

Posted on 11/03/2003 9:17:27 AM PST by tubavil

Edited on 01/26/2004 3:58:09 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

Monday, November 3, 2003

A new message was posted in the last few hours by the Jeddah-based al-Qaeda-linked Al-Islah (Reform) society calling on Muslims to flee New York, Washington and Los Angeles in advance of major al Qaeda attacks in those cities. This is revealed by DEBKAfile.

The message accuses the United States of predetermining its end (doom) by its policies. ?The Jews rule the Pentagon by remote control and (are the cause) of Muslims being killed in every corner of the world. The United States should therefore expect more blows.?

The message is signed on behalf of the al Bayan (The Threat) movement by ?your warrior brother, Abul Hassan al Khadrami?.

Our Muslim expert identifies the name of the signatory as belonging to a Yemeni from Hadhrameuth, the Bin Ladens? place of origin where Osama enjoys substantial tribal support.

DEBKAfile?s counter-terror sources stress that warnings appearing on these forums are taken both very seriously and with caution by the intelligence services keeping track of the terrorist network?s electronic traffic.

Last November, Jeddah-based fundamentalist forums addressed a message to an Al Qaeda member, saying whoever understands ? understands; whoever knows, knows, but we are marching towards an operation that will take us to Paradise. Three days later, the Mombasa Paradise hotel was blown up killing 12 Kenyans and 3 Israelis and a failed shoulder-launched Strela anti-air missile missed an Israeli airliner at Mombasa airport.

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To: Ragirl
I just saw a report on CNBC that all oil tankers have been ordered out of the Port of Valdez Alaska which was another place on the watch list.
4,781 posted on 12/31/2003 3:12:20 PM PST by WestCoastGal
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To: Sender
Thanks, that agrees with what others have been saying too, about that map.
4,782 posted on 12/31/2003 3:14:49 PM PST by texasbluebell
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To: Revel
Did you see the entry for the 31'st about NYC. I did not see that posted on this thread. A pretty serious threat at least.

Yes, I saw that too. Pretty scary stuff. If it doesn't happen tonight at least it's obvious that is what their intentions are.

4,783 posted on 12/31/2003 3:16:09 PM PST by Ragirl
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To: Ragirl
Just got back, and awaiting the translation bump!
4,784 posted on 12/31/2003 3:20:50 PM PST by cmsgop ( It comes out your bum,Like a bullet from a gun,.."Diarrhea, Diarrhea"...........)
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To: Ragirl
<> Can you post it here?
4,785 posted on 12/31/2003 3:21:12 PM PST by sissyjane
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To: Ragirl
Well, if it's anything like they are spouting over at Debka.com, it's gonna be scary. I'm anxious to read the translation.

The New Year's event in Edinburgh has been cancelled a few minutes ago. I'ts 11.20pm here now and there will be between 100,000 and 200,000 people downtown at the moment. The explanation given is high winds but they died down about an hour ago. Interesting times.

4,786 posted on 12/31/2003 3:22:07 PM PST by Haymarket
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To: jstolzen; JustPiper; Cindy; Calpernia; Sabertooth; LayoutGuru2
This is a rough translation of the Arabic text that was posted this afternoon at www.homelandsecurityus.com

I am posting the translation with reluctance. The translation is not perfect. Arabic is not my first language and there are parts of it I had great difficulty translating and had to resort to an automated translator to make sense of (these portions are noted in the translation) I apologize for the mediocre quality of the translation




BEGIN TRANSLATION



Very important and very good news for the Muslims... we have started the countdown... an American city will disappear
(repeated several times)

It is important and we hope you speed the publication of this news, and according to Allah it is speading spontaneously (? not the best word)

This information was sent to the American mass media but they did not publicize it. It was also sent to the Arab mass media including Al Jazeera Channel and the Jerusalem newspaper, but regretfully this was not publicized by anyone except the Jerusalem newspaper on the 19th of Ramadan. It did not spread the statement completely but only a few knew of it even though the American mass media was aware of it, and failed to spread the news, the American administration knew of it.

(four lines of signature which don't make any sense in translation)

A Warning to Moslems in America

By Allah above ( ( he glorified Allah what in the skies and what in earth and he the wise noble ( 1 ) is the one that brought out from the People of the Book from their houses to the beginning of Doomsday what thought that they leave and they thought that they are what their fortresses announced death from Allah then Allah came them regarding a collection that suppose and threw in their hearts the terror that ruin their houses by their hands and the believers hands then learn you O the insightful peoples ( 2 ) ) ) the stuffing ... And the prayer and the greeting on the prophet Mohammad and on his family and companions as a wholes ..

As for after :
He does not abandon you, O our brothers, but what he suffers your Muslim brothers and the mujahid in the places of the world from force and injustice and tyranny and flight and murder and exile from the god's power of injustice and the lies by the world's American rulers, who think they themselves are gods, and Allah testifies that they have written America's end with their hands, then they will revert (?) the Zionist plans without hesitation or reconsideration. America's current defense ministry moves by the Israeli remote control, and what are Afghanistan and Iraq about you by a little after, then their sons there frustrated and defeated wonder ( what we still hear ), yes they alone know the bitter truth and they watch daily in front of their eyes tens of casualties from their friends the soldiers die, with no regret from their foolish rulers, then they hear lies and untruths from the rulers of their nation and of the world's nations about number of their casualties and their heavy losses. (AUTOMATED TRANSLATION BEGINS HERE) By Allah above ( ( and also we made in all its criminals 's nobles village so that they deceive in it and what deceive is except souls and what feel ) ) the cattle ... And he said that was above ( ( and deceived and the God's plan and Allah the Best of Planners ( 54 ) ) ) the Imran's Family ... (END AUTOMATED TRANSLATION) (translator's note: I'm having lots of trouble with this paragraph so I'm leaving it as a literal translation - I think the important thing is that they are tieing the US and Israel together here)



To our Moslem brothers in America, we ask you to very quickly depart these cities immediately :
Washington DC . New York City . And Los Angeles .

We swear that so that we are serious about our warning of this. In the coming days the validity of this warning will be apparant to you. We are walking in the path of jihad for the defense for the Islamic flag which the unbelievers hate

As for our speech about the unjust rulers of America then we say, who awaited our conditions (terms?) after the first hit by Allah soldiers
say then wait you I am with you from the waiting
they fought them that Allah torture by your hands and pricks them and supports you against them and copies believing people chests )
who said for them the people the people have gathered for you then you fear them then bestowed on them a belief and said enough Allah and the agent how excellent
Allah forgive for us our sins and our material excesses and fix our feet and support us against the people the unbelieving ) )
Oh Allah did he reach us oh Allah then testify
And peace, mercy and blessings of Allah be upon you it

(signature)
15 Ramadan 1424

Founded 19 Jumada I, 1424 å

An urgent message to the Arab and western mass media
An urgent message to the forums and the Arab and western sites

The second warning

Our Muslim brothers in America this is our final warning , we ask you to very quickly depart these cities immediately :

Washington City . And New York City . And Los Angeles city .

We swear that so that we are serious about our warning of this. In the coming days the validity of this warning will be apparant to you. We are walking in the path of jihad for the defense for the Islamic flag which the unbelievers hate

And we are informing you that the unjust rulers of America, you alone in this world know of the entrance of our weapons destructive to your country, and of you last statements of the officials of your Ministry of Defense about the inability of our soliders to work with these weapons. This is said only to reassure your nation, but the lying and the forgery (?) is not even questioned by you. Afghanistan and Iraq and nothing to you because of their distance. So that you know and so that you know knows its helplessness on this matter our first attack on the first city will be nearer that you expect and after it you will know a right that Allah's soldiers, the believers, have promised and completed and excelled, and waited our condition after the first attack.
Say "Then you wait, I am with you as you wait"
they fought them who Allah tortures by your hands and pricks them and supports you against them and copies believing people chests
who said for them the people the people have gathered for you then you fear them then bestowed on them a belief and said enough Allah and the agent how excellent
a Lord forgive for us our sins, and our material extremes, and plant our feet and support us against the unbelievers
Oh Allah did he reach us oh Allah then testify
And peace, mercy and blessings of Allah be upon you it
signed and dated
19 Shawwal 1424
Founded 19 Jumada I, 1424
An urgent form to the Arab and western mass media

An urgent message to the forums and the Arab and western sites

The jihad falcon
Then I no longer care if kill a Muslim on any side; in my death he was with Allah




END TRANSLATION


4,787 posted on 12/31/2003 3:23:33 PM PST by StillProud2BeFree
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To: angkor
I'm a she not a he :) I just posted the translation with serious reservations. Please don't flame the translator.
4,788 posted on 12/31/2003 3:24:47 PM PST by StillProud2BeFree
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To: sissyjane
<> Can you post it here?

Italian Il Giornale: Al Qaeda Threatens to Nuke New York on February

The banner headline spread across the front page of Il Giornale, the respected Milan daily reads:

&#8220;Al Qaeda: We will destroy New York within 35 days. Threat on the Internet. Countdown begins.&#8221;

The threat was contained in a video clip featured on a web site associated with the fundamentalist terror group. It announced al Qaeda plans to destroy New York in a nuclear blast on February 2. Il Giornale claims the FBI blocked and removed the web site.

The video clip showed three possible scenarios: 1. A bomb or giant fireball from the skies that will cover the metropolis with a radioactive cloud. 2. A storm of radioactive clouds that will topple skyscrapers one by one, along with the Statue of Liberty and Brooklyn Bridge. 3. An explosion on board a charter aircraft that will cause a radioactive cloud to spread over the city.

The video clip was accompanied by large, red-lettered Arabic captions saying: &#8220;If God wills it, the end of America is near.&#8221;

From Debka

4,789 posted on 12/31/2003 3:27:15 PM PST by Ragirl
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To: Ragirl
Thanks for the post; and you're right. It's very scary.
4,790 posted on 12/31/2003 3:29:40 PM PST by sissyjane
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To: StillProud2BeFree
Thank you for posting this. It jives with what Debka is saying (if that makes anyone feel better about it, lol). This is scary stuff for sure. Thanks for the translation.
4,791 posted on 12/31/2003 3:31:27 PM PST by Ragirl
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To: StillProud2BeFree
Thanks for the translation. It was long, eh? Good practice though, I suppose.
4,792 posted on 12/31/2003 3:32:36 PM PST by riri
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To: StillProud2BeFree
I'm a she not a he :)

Whoops. Sorry.

4,793 posted on 12/31/2003 3:34:43 PM PST by angkor
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To: StillProud2BeFree
Thanks very much, StillProud2BeFree.

I wonder, tho..what on earth in homesecurityus.com waiting for in their translation of this?

It almost strikes me as someone who puts up a bunch of text in Arabic to scare the bajeebus out of everyone, then sits on it (intentionally?) for a while to maximize the impact.

Makes me wonder about their motives.

- J
4,794 posted on 12/31/2003 3:37:54 PM PST by jstolzen
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To: StillProud2BeFree
seriously, the idea that the same group that has to hijack the weapons they use, like planes, is just sitting around with a nuke and posting on the net the date they will drop it is frankly, nuts. most likely, this is just rah-rah stuff to rally the ignorant muslims who are drawn to their cause.

by the time february rolls around, they will move the date to April, then June, etc.
4,795 posted on 12/31/2003 3:38:53 PM PST by oceanview
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To: jstolzen
re post no. 4755...

You have some valid points and
yes, common sense does go a long way.
4,796 posted on 12/31/2003 3:39:44 PM PST by Cindy
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To: All
So..are Muslims leaving NYC, Los Angeles and Washington?

I wonder..are they leaving? In any kind of numbers?

Ya haveto wonder if this is Psyops, or the real thing.

If real..then why on earth aren't people (media, gov't, etc) ALL OVER THIS?

As much as I admire GWB and the Admin, I don't trust them as far as I can throw them in terms of telling us the "real scoop".

I'm for one taking steps to protect my family against ANY possibility. I think this is wise, tho there are many who scoff at me and think I'm off my rocker (possible!). Yet, as I told the wife earlier today.."there were those in 1944 who didn't think that things were threatening, either".

God help us, but I feel like we are in the early days of WWIII - a war that we may NOT be equipped to win (eg: who do we nuke back if AQ hits NYC with WMD? Answer: no-one, although if I were Prez, Mecca and a whole bunch of other ME targets would be VAPORIZED and the bad guys would feel the REAL power of America - not the tip-toe PC crap we held back with in Iraq).
4,797 posted on 12/31/2003 3:42:10 PM PST by jstolzen
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To: All; JohnathanRGalt; piasa
WORTH REPEATING (from FReepers prior post):

http://www.flytecomm.com/cgi-bin/trackflight
4,798 posted on 12/31/2003 3:42:12 PM PST by Cindy
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To: StillProud2BeFree
Excellent translation.

Thanks.

I think we get the idea.

I don't know whether it's just me, but this strikes me as more serious and ominous, than previous warnings.
4,799 posted on 12/31/2003 3:43:07 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: oceanview
Hey, oceanview..I like YOUR interpretation of this much, MUCH better than my own.

Personally, I think AQ **DOES** have WMD.

Go read: worldthreats.com for an analysis of why. It scared the bajeebus out of me.

But, you are indeed thinking the same that I've been: IF AQ has WMD, why on earth are they chasing hijacked airplanes to use in an attack?

It is either a diversion, or they DON'T have WMD.

Guess we'll find out by 2/4.

- J
4,800 posted on 12/31/2003 3:44:09 PM PST by jstolzen
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