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Al Qaeda again threatens New York, Washington and Los Angeles - Daily Terror Threat
Debka ^ | 11-3-2003 | Staff

Posted on 11/03/2003 9:17:27 AM PST by tubavil

Edited on 01/26/2004 3:58:09 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

Monday, November 3, 2003

A new message was posted in the last few hours by the Jeddah-based al-Qaeda-linked Al-Islah (Reform) society calling on Muslims to flee New York, Washington and Los Angeles in advance of major al Qaeda attacks in those cities. This is revealed by DEBKAfile.

The message accuses the United States of predetermining its end (doom) by its policies. ?The Jews rule the Pentagon by remote control and (are the cause) of Muslims being killed in every corner of the world. The United States should therefore expect more blows.?

The message is signed on behalf of the al Bayan (The Threat) movement by ?your warrior brother, Abul Hassan al Khadrami?.

Our Muslim expert identifies the name of the signatory as belonging to a Yemeni from Hadhrameuth, the Bin Ladens? place of origin where Osama enjoys substantial tribal support.

DEBKAfile?s counter-terror sources stress that warnings appearing on these forums are taken both very seriously and with caution by the intelligence services keeping track of the terrorist network?s electronic traffic.

Last November, Jeddah-based fundamentalist forums addressed a message to an Al Qaeda member, saying whoever understands ? understands; whoever knows, knows, but we are marching towards an operation that will take us to Paradise. Three days later, the Mombasa Paradise hotel was blown up killing 12 Kenyans and 3 Israelis and a failed shoulder-launched Strela anti-air missile missed an Israeli airliner at Mombasa airport.

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To: FairOpinion
I believe you hit the nail on the head.
3,981 posted on 12/27/2003 3:23:19 PM PST by mindspy
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To: liz44040
re post no. 3982...

Yep.
I'm aware of how serious the situation is
in Pakistan.

AQ with nukes?
Taliban with nukes?

No thanks.

OPINION: I'm sure the good old USA has a plan (don't tell the Democrats) in case anything happens to Musharraf (sp?).
3,983 posted on 12/27/2003 3:58:51 PM PST by Cindy
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To: liz44040
God, please bless the "unimpeachable source."
Amen.
3,986 posted on 12/27/2003 4:39:45 PM PST by Cindy
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To: liz44040
WOW!

Thanks for the article, this is the first time I've seen it.

Apparently the terrorists decided, that if they can't hijack the large airplane, they can try to fly small airplanes into the passenger plane in its ascent phase, to try to blow it up.

I am glad they foiled the attack -- that's why we need to be vigilant, the terrorists keep coming up with new scanarios.
3,987 posted on 12/27/2003 4:41:35 PM PST by FairOpinion
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"Islamists and Anti-Americanism" (It's a war to the death which they fully intend to win.)
MERIA [Middle East Review of International Affairs] ^ | December 2003 | Reuven Paz


Posted on 12/27/2003 3:23:46 PM PST by quidnunc


ARTICLE SNIPPET: "The leading element of anti-Americanism in contemporary world politics is the radical Islamist one, which, since the 1990s, has viewed the United States as its strongest and principal enemy.  This perception, especially after the American occupation of Iraq, is often accompanied by a demonization of the United States in an apocalyptic sense within a concept of a war that heralds the end of the world.

Since the September 11, 2001 attacks and the onset of a global war against terrorism led by the United States, anti-Americanism has become an integral part of world politics.  The debate over war in Iraq and then the war itself, invoked even more anti-Americanism in the Arab and Muslim World, as well as in parts of Europe. In parts of the world, anti-Americanism is also linked to anti-Globalization."
3,988 posted on 12/27/2003 4:42:16 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Cindy
Hey Cindy, if you're "bored", would you mind organizing my files and disks?

;)
3,989 posted on 12/27/2003 4:50:38 PM PST by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: StillProud2BeFree
He's baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/daleelalmojahid/
3,990 posted on 12/27/2003 4:57:40 PM PST by Mr. Morals (God Bless Ronald Reagan!)
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To: Mr. Morals
he doesn't quit, does he
3,992 posted on 12/27/2003 5:01:27 PM PST by knak (wasknaknowknid)
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To: liz44040
Here is the Daleel picture from his homepage.


3,994 posted on 12/27/2003 5:18:23 PM PST by Mr. Morals (God Bless Ronald Reagan!)
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To: Cindy; Calpernia; Dog; liz44040; Sabertooth; FairOpinion; JustPiper
Daleel is back (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/daleelalmojahid/) and he's started quoting Revelation (cringe)...
3,995 posted on 12/27/2003 5:22:43 PM PST by mhking (It's in your home state...it's outside your front door...and it's going to eat YOU up!)
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To: liz44040
No problem - warning; it's LONG.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/daleelalmojahid/message/4
3,998 posted on 12/27/2003 5:28:10 PM PST by mhking (It's in your home state...it's outside your front door...and it's going to eat YOU up!)
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Date:  Sat Dec 27, 2003  2:12 pm
Subject:  may be you would listen to your friends if you dont want to listen to your enemy

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I am going to share a study this evening that I shared a few months ago
The thing that I am going to be talking about tonight is economic
Babylon of Revelation 18...what is it?
This subject is very important, especially since we are so close to
the end!!!
I will first show why the Babylon of Revelation 18 is probably not the
same as the Babylon of Revelation chapter 17. Here are the reasons:
1.`And after these things...' (18:1). The events described here will
not take place until after the events of Chapter 17 have been fulfilled.
2.Names in the two chapters are different. The `Babylon' in Chapter
17:5, is named `Mystery, Babylon the Great, the Mother of Harlots.
We know this Babylon is religious by the words `Mystery' and `Mother
of Harlots'. But, the term in Chapter 18:2 is merely `Babylon the
Great'. The Babylon in Chapter 18 is a commercial Babylon.
3.Babylon, the harlot of Chapter 17, will be destroyed by the kings
(rulers) of the earth. The Babylon of Chapter 18 will be destroyed by
Elohim's cataclysmic judgments.
4.The Babylon of Chapter 17 will be destroyed by the kings of the
earth, who rejoice in her destruction. But, in Chapter 18, the kings
and the merchants of the earth lament and weep for the destroyed
Babylon. (18:15-19)
5.Finally, common sense tells us that, once something is destroyed, it
is gone.
For the Babylons of Chapter 17 and 18 to be the same, the system would
have to be destroyed twice...
Jeremiah chapters 50 and 51 is also talking about Babylon...
Question...is this the same Babylon as Revelation 18?
I will be quoting from Jeremiah chapters 50 and 51 as I go through the
verses of Revelation 18 to show a comparison, I will also be quoting
other scriptures from the Word of YHWH...
Now, let's begin our study of Revelation 18 verse by verse:
Revelation 18:1... And after these things I saw another angel come
down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with
his glory.
YHWH has evidently given a special power, to this angel--hence, the
words "having great power".
This nation Babylon has become inhabited by Satan and his demons...
Revelation 18:2... And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying,
Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation
of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every
unclean and hateful bird.
Jeremiah 51:37 - And Babylon shall become heaps, a dwelling place for
dragons, an astonishment, and an hissing, without an inhabitant.
This nation is guilty of many demonic sins and here, YHWH is finally
moved to judgement.
This Nation Is THE CENTRAL NATION In The World.
Revelation 18:3... For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath
of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed
fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich
through the abundance of her delicacies. {abundance: or, power}
Jeremiah 51:7 - Babylon hath been a golden cup in YHWH's hand, that
made all the earth drunken: the nations have drunken of her wine;
therefore the nations are mad.
This is another powerful, overflowing statement. This country is THE
CENTRAL nation in the world at this time.
Businessmen of other nations have become excessively, wantonly, filthy
rich in their trade with Babylon.
Babylon must be THE richest nation on earth.
Babylon must possess an abundance of cash and must be so willing to
spend it, that this process enriches the leaders and the businessmen
of the world.
Babylon must be a consumer country without equal, repeatedly buying,
using, discarding, and buying again.
And to tie the first 3 verses together, let us look at Revelation 14:8...
Revelations 14:8 - And another angel followed, saying, "Babylon is
fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she has made all nations
drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication."
YHWH calls His people out of Babylon before He executes judgement.
Revelation 18:4... And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come
out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that
ye receive not of her plagues.
Many believe that this is talking about coming out of false religions,
but let's compare it to Jeremiah...
Jeremiah 50:8 - Remove out of the midst of Babylon, and go forth out
of the land of the Chaldeans, and be as the he goats before the flocks.
Jeremiah 51:6 - Flee out of the midst of Babylon, and deliver every
man his soul: be not cut off in her iniquity; for this is the time of
YHWH's vengeance; he will render unto her a recompence.
Jeremiah 51:9 - We would have healed Babylon, but she is not healed:
forsake her, and let us go every one into his own country: for her
judgment reacheth unto heaven, and is lifted up even to the skies.
As we can see...
Babylon's sins have piled up from earth to heaven. The time has
arrived to call them to remeberance.
Revelation 18:5... For her sins have reached unto heaven, and YHWH
hath remembered her iniquities.
This is a statement of staggering proportions. How high is it from
earth to heaven? When these sins are stacked, they literally reach
from earth to heaven, according to the Almighty's accounting.
YHWH DOUBLES The Punishment Which This Nation Is To Receive.
Revelation 18:6... Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double
unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath
filled fill to her double.
Whatever this means, whether it is nuclear explosions or earthquakes
or both, it is plain that it will be a judgement from Father YHWH.
The destruction could be by both massive nuclear blasts and earthquakes.
Albert Einstein clearly proved that a small nuclear blast on the right
place on an earthquake fault would produce earthquakes of such
magnitude as to displace entire continents.
The North American continent is covered with many such faults, from
sea to shining sea.
Father YHWH has in times past, used other nations to carry out his
judgements, as in the case of Assyria invading the 10 northern tribes
of Israel.
And in Jeremiah, it is prophesied that it will be done so to Babylon!!...
Jeremiah 50:15 - Shout against her round about: she hath given her
hand: her foundations are fallen, her walls are thrown down: for it is
the vengeance of YHWH: take vengeance upon her; as she hath done, do
unto her.
Jeremiah 50:29 - Call together the archers against Babylon: all ye
that bend the bow, camp against it round about; let none thereof
escape: recompense her according to her work; according to all that
she hath done, do unto her: for she hath been proud against YHWH,
against the Holy One of Israel.
Babylon boasts proudly ib her heart of her riches, believing she will
continue forever in her prosperity.
Revelation 18:7...How much she hath glorified herself, and lived
deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her
heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.
Isaiah 47:1 - Come down, and sit in the dust, O virgin daughter of
Babylon, sit on the ground: there is no throne, O daughter of the
Chaldeans: for thou shalt no more be called tender and delicate.
Many people believe that this good life will never end. Certainly, the
very rich believe it with all their heart. Americans still lead the
world in the wealth of her businessmen.
The number of billionaires per country...
USA 40+ Japan 24 West Germany 13 United Kingdom 7 Hong Kong 6 Canada 6
Saudi Arabia 5
American businessmen still hold the predominate wealth in the world.
What is the attitude on the part of Americans toward this wealth?
They believe they need nothing else and that this good time will never
end.
This passage also implies that, at the time of the Almighty's
destruction, this nation will be at her HEIGHT of power and monetary
influence.
Is America at her economic zenith now, or are we in serious decline?
"...The average American has NEVER HAD IT SO GOOD. By almost any
measure of health and wealth...we are demonstrably better off now than
in the...50's and 60's.
Our incomes are up...
We have more opportunities
We can choose among more things to buy..
The average American commands TWICE AS MUCH buying power today as in
1962, despite inflation and higher taxes..."
Employment benefits are twice as large a share of total compensation
as they were 35 years ago...
Counting government subsidies, 1 in 10 Americans today is poor, versus
1 in 5 in 1960..."
We can expect to live 5 years longer
Infant mortality...fell by 50% during the 70-80's.
Fewer adults die of heart disease or in accidents
Medical costs have soared, but many more Americans can get care when
they need it...because of Medicare, Medicaid...as well as a widening
umbrella of private insurance plans...85% of Americans have some form
of coverage, compared with 70% in 1962.
Poor Americans have made the biggest gains."
It takes the average family 23 weeks of income to buy that average car
now, versus 26
weeks in 1960..."
Homes are less affordable than in the 1960's...but more Americans own
their own homes..
The average apartment today is newer, more spacious, and more stuffed
with amenities than in 1960."
"The old in America work less and live longer, and at the same time,
they are wealthier and more independent than ever before...today's
elderly have piled up assets like no other generation of oldsters in
history..."
YHWH's judgements fall in one day utterly destroying Babylon.
Revelation 18:8... Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death,
and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire:
for strong [is] YHWH Elohim who judgeth her.
At this point, let us turn back to Jeremiah 50:25...
Jeremiah 50:25 - YHWH hath opened his armoury, and hath brought forth
the weapons of his indignation: for this is the work of the Sovereign
YHWH of hosts in the land of the Chaldeans.
Jeremiah 50:25 could read, "YHWH has opened His armory, and has
brought forth
[the nations who unknowingly] are the weapons of His indignation and
wrath..."
Amazing!! YHWH has used men and nations to accomplish His will in most
instances when He delivers His wrath.
Historically, no nation has ever been utterly destroyed in one day.
The single-day destruction of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, who were
destroyed by a small primitive nuclear weapon, was actually a
destruction which occurred within a SINGLE HOUR.
As we look ahead to verse 10, YHWH further narrows Babylon's
destruction to a single hour.
Will it be form nuclear desruction?
This is the first and only time in world history, that an ENTIRE
nation could literally be destroyed in a single hour.
Earth's leaders bemoan Babylon's Destruction.
Revelation 18:9...And the kings of the earth, who have committed
fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and
lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,
This nation provided great leadership and she was the economic engine
of the world. World leaders are weeping because this loss threatens
their own luxurious wealth. Does America really buy from all other
nations of the world to such a degree?
"...The Third World now relies upon the United States to buy 65% of
its manufactured exports, compared with only 45% in 1979." 10
The USA imports more than both Japan and West Germany combined.
Remember the words, "...no one will buy their cargo anymore...")
Country Exports Imports
Exports...USA 322 Billion Japan 265 Billion W. Germany 323 Billion
Imports...USA 460 Billion Japan 187 Billion W. Germany 236 Billion
Remember, the key to this prophecy is on imports from other nations.
This Economic Babylon undoubtedly has a very large Import imbalance,
as she imports so much merchandise from the rest of the world.
Finally, look at the phrase 'smoke of her burning'--could that be the
inevitable plumes formed by a nuclear explosion?
Earth's buisnessmen bewale Babylon's fate. Immensity and complexity of
Babylon's economy is described.
9... And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and
lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when
they shall see the smoke of her burning,
10 Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas,
that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy
judgment come.
11 And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for
no man buyeth their merchandise any more:
verses 12 and 13 discribe the types of merchandise that Babylon imports.
I'll now skip down to verse 14:
14... And the fruits that thy soul lusted after are departed from
thee, and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from
thee, and thou shalt find them no more at all.
15 The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall
stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing,
16 And saying, Alas, alas, that great city, that was clothed in fine
linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious
stones, and pearls!
17 For in one hour so great riches is come to nought.
Now consider some pertinent points of these verses in Revelation
chaper 18...
1.In verses 10 and 15, it says that the rulers and the businessmen are
standing a "long way off" in their intense lamenting over the loss of
this great nation.
Look at a world globe. The North American continent is UNIQUELY
SURROUNDED on all sides by immense bodies of water.
The great majority of our commercial trade is done with two major
parts of the world--Asia to the West, across the Pacific Ocean; and
Europe, to the East, across the Atlantic.
2.verse 11... this great nation was unique. She alone bought such a
huge amount of the cargo from the other nations of the world. No
nation could replace her.
Only America is EXTREMELY DEPENDENT upon consumer purchasing for the
health of her economy. Two-thirds of our total economic activity is
generated by consumer spending.
3. America's loss to the world's economy would be devastating. The
world would lose THE
MOST PRODUCTIVE agricultural exporting continent in the WORLD.
The economy of this great nation is described in 18:12-13, and 16, as
vast, multifaceted economy.
The key emphasis is on the volume of merchandise which this economy
IMPORTS.
SHIP CAPTAINS, NAVIGATORS, AND CREWS BEMOAN BABYLON'S FATE
Revelation 18:17...And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships,
and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off,
Revelation 18:18 And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning,
saying, What [city is] like unto this great city!
Revelation 18:19 And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping
and wailing, saying, Alas, alas, that great city, wherein were made
rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in
one hour is she made desolate.
Babylon was unique in that she imported/exported most of her trade via
the sea. As we have already stated, only America is so uniquely
situated geographically that she has to carry her imports so
completely via the ocean.
In 18:9, 15, and 19: the leaders, businessmen, and ship-owners able to
see the smoke of this nation's burning.
Not even huge pillars of nuclear smoke, rising over America, could be
seen with the naked eye 2,000-4,000 miles away.
This viewing of the smoke from such great distances can only occur
today, with TV transmissions from orbiting satellites.
* The very end of verse 19: This destruction has made this nation `a
desert'. One of the effects of nuclear explosions, especially at the
point of impact, is the formation of glass and sand.
Babylon will be desroyed by great violence as though a mighty
millstone were cast into the sea.
Revelation 18:21... And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great
millstone, and cast [it] into the sea, saying, Thus with violence
shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no
more at all.
Isaiah 13:19 - And Babylon, the glory of kingdoms, the beauty of the
Chaldees' excellency, shall be as when Elohim overthrew Sodom and
Gomorrah.

Isaiah 13:20 - It shall never be inhabited, neither shall it be dwelt
in from generation to generation: neither shall the Arabian pitch tent
there; neither shall the shepherds make their fold there.
Isaiah 13:21 - But wild beasts of the desert shall lie there; and
their houses shall be full of doleful creatures; and owls shall dwell
there, and satyrs shall dance there.
Isaiah 13:22 - And the wild beasts of the islands shall cry in their
desolate houses, and dragons in their pleasant palaces: and her time
is near to come, and her days shall not be prolonged.
The destruction of this nation will evidently be of UNPARALLELED
VIOLENCE, producing a destruction, the likes of which have NEVER been
seen BEFORE in world history.
Revelation 18:22 And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of
pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no
craftsman, of whatsoever craft [he be], shall be found any more in
thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee;
Revelation 18:23a... And the light of a candle shall shine no more at
all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be
heard no more at all in thee:
EVERYTHING COMPRISING A CIVILIZATION IS GONE FOREVER
Revelation 18:23b... for thy merchants were the great men of the
earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.
The United States of America has led the world into this Satanic New
World Order, both in terms of national political and economic
leadership, but mostly in the leadership of values.
People all over the world have yearned to be like America, as they
have seen our wealth, success, and power.
Such a position draws people to emulate, to allow themselves to be
deceived.
Such is the case today.
I believe that it is very possible that the United States or the North
American Continent is Babylon of Revelation 18.
YHWH knows!
May YHWH bless you
HalleluYAH!
...................................

this is a study done by a jewish student!! may be you would listen to
your friends if you dont want to listen to your enemy!!

alaah akbaar god is above all and hes the greatest
daleel_almojahid


3,999 posted on 12/27/2003 5:29:06 PM PST by mhking (It's in your home state...it's outside your front door...and it's going to eat YOU up!)
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To: Calpernia
I agree with everything you said. Keep posting. Also, thanks for sending info on to JTTF.
4,000 posted on 12/27/2003 5:35:03 PM PST by Oorang (Don't tread on me)
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