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Al Qaeda again threatens New York, Washington and Los Angeles - Daily Terror Threat
Debka ^ | 11-3-2003 | Staff

Posted on 11/03/2003 9:17:27 AM PST by tubavil

Edited on 01/26/2004 3:58:09 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

Monday, November 3, 2003

A new message was posted in the last few hours by the Jeddah-based al-Qaeda-linked Al-Islah (Reform) society calling on Muslims to flee New York, Washington and Los Angeles in advance of major al Qaeda attacks in those cities. This is revealed by DEBKAfile.

The message accuses the United States of predetermining its end (doom) by its policies. ?The Jews rule the Pentagon by remote control and (are the cause) of Muslims being killed in every corner of the world. The United States should therefore expect more blows.?

The message is signed on behalf of the al Bayan (The Threat) movement by ?your warrior brother, Abul Hassan al Khadrami?.

Our Muslim expert identifies the name of the signatory as belonging to a Yemeni from Hadhrameuth, the Bin Ladens? place of origin where Osama enjoys substantial tribal support.

DEBKAfile?s counter-terror sources stress that warnings appearing on these forums are taken both very seriously and with caution by the intelligence services keeping track of the terrorist network?s electronic traffic.

Last November, Jeddah-based fundamentalist forums addressed a message to an Al Qaeda member, saying whoever understands ? understands; whoever knows, knows, but we are marching towards an operation that will take us to Paradise. Three days later, the Mombasa Paradise hotel was blown up killing 12 Kenyans and 3 Israelis and a failed shoulder-launched Strela anti-air missile missed an Israeli airliner at Mombasa airport.

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To: Revel
Since we know Bin Laden and Company are into numbers, I'll mention that today is 1-19, Thats 9-11 backwards. Let's hope that they do not find that symbolic.

I'm going to borrow a page from Pegita here (although I do not do so nearly as beautifully), and ask God to get us through the next few weeks safely, and keep this country and our people safe.
12,401 posted on 01/19/2004 4:22:48 AM PST by StillProud2BeFree
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To: Revel
Interesting:
go to this:
http://www.instantdeath.info

And you get redirected to the link in my last post.
12,402 posted on 01/19/2004 4:23:41 AM PST by Revel
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To: StillProud2BeFree
I never made the whole reverse 911 senerio. Pretty Scary. You better let me know about that file before it is too late....Ah Just kidding. Pray hard.
12,403 posted on 01/19/2004 4:27:52 AM PST by Revel
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To: GOPJ
pronounced "maw-dee"

(Persian and Arabic have two "a" sounds: an "aa" sound as in "father" and another "a" sound as in "cat". Usually, in transliteration, if it's the longer "a" sound, two a's will be used, and one for the shorter.) This is not one of those cases. It might more accurately be spelled "Maadi" depending on the transliteration.)

(from http://i-cias.com/e.o/messiah.htm#islam)
"The ideology of the Mahdi in Islam has many similarities with the Jewish/Christian Messiah. The ideology is central in Shi'i Islam but has a certain presence in Sunni Islam as well.

While Christian and Jewish thinkers would say that this ideology is strongly influenced by their two religions, Muslim thinkers would say that Mahdi represent the true form of saviour figure, and that Messiah in Judaism and Christ in Christianity represent deviations from the original doctrines.

Mahdi is a character that belongs to the last period of mankind, and his purpose is to restore the faith, and bring Islam back to its pure origins and provide for the belivers a society where they can perform their religious duties in a correct manner.

The Mahdi is not mentioned in the Koran, but belongs to theological developments starting from the 9th/10th century BCE.

The Arabic term "mahdi" is best translated with "divinely guided one". It is a Saviour figure in Islam, for which there are several different interpretations in Sunni Islam, and one dominant interpretation in Shi'i Islam.

The "mahdi" of Sunni Islam is just one of several important figures, while the "mahdi" of Shi'i Islam has a real eschatological importance, and is in the future the most important figure for Islam as well as the world.

The main principle of the mahdi is that he is a figure that is absolutely guided by God. This guidance is stronger form of guidance than normal guidance, which usually involves than a human being willfully acts according to the guidance of God. The mahdi on the other hand, has nothing of this human element, and acts the will of God directly.

The figure of mahdi, nor his mission, is not mentioned in the Koran, and there are practically nothing to be found among the reliable hadiths on him either. The idea of the mahdi appears to be a development in the first 2-3 centuries of Islam. In the case of the Shi'i mahdi many scholars have suggested that there is a clear inspiration coming from Christianity and its ideas of a judgement day in the hands of a religious renewer.

While there are many similarities between the Mahdi and Messias, there are also many variations over the Mahdi theme, which have differed from time to time and from region to region.

The first time we hear of the term "mahdi" is in 686 CE, by the Muslim leader Mukhtar Thaqafi, for Muhammad bni l-Hanafiya (see below).

SUNNI ISLAM
There are more than one way of defining the mahdi in Sunni Islam, but never is it given such an importance as we can see it in Shi'i Islam:

1. "Mahdi" has been used as an honorific title for several prominent figures in Islam. This applies to Ali, the 4th caliph; his son Hassan; as well as the ummawiyy caliph Umar 2. In the latter case, theologians meant that Umar 2 was the 1st of altogether 8 renewers of Islam. The last of these 8 would be a figure simply called Mahdi or Isa (Jesus).
2. When "mahdi" was used for the abbasid caliph Nasir, he was defined as the final mahdi, and there were no need to expect any future mahdis.
3. "Mahdi" has sometimes been used for converts to Islam, because these people are believed to have been guided by God to find the truth.
4. "Mahdi" has been frequently used for military leaders, both leaders suppressed Muslim were calling for, as well as leaders that appeared in flesh and blood. Among the most known are El Mahdi of 19th century Sudan, and Ibn Tumart of 12th century Morocco.

SHI'I ISLAM
Even in Shi'i Islam, there are variations, but these all give the Mahdi an elevated and unique position. These are the known variations:

1. In the now extinct sect of Kaisaniya, founded around Muhammad bni l-Hanafiya, son of Ali with another wife than Fatima, this Muhammad was defined as "mahdi". Muhammad appears to have refused this status, but nevertheless the Kaisaniya sect developed especially after his death. They developed a theology where they waited for his return from his grave in Mount Radwa, where they believed that he was living, and not dead."
12,405 posted on 01/19/2004 5:30:31 AM PST by Per-Ling
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To: Cindy
Gruesome photo. I thought these guys were supposed to shave before blowing themselves up. Maybe it is permissible to skip this step so as not to arouse suspicion.
12,406 posted on 01/19/2004 7:01:46 AM PST by Try2Discern
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To: KylaStarr; texasbluebell
I'm still trying to wrap my mind around the fact that one doesn't have to be a Christian to be a mason.

Me too! Thanks for the link, I'll check it out soon. Looks like I'm behind almost 1000 posts. It's going to be tough trying to get caught up.

12,407 posted on 01/19/2004 7:10:41 AM PST by Velveeta
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To: WestCoastGal
Regarding John Loftus, it seems like we definitely should keep an ear out for his analysis.
12,408 posted on 01/19/2004 7:13:01 AM PST by Velveeta
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To: WestCoastGal
Doesn't it seem like it's waaaay too soon for them to decide that they can't get any information out of that black box?
12,409 posted on 01/19/2004 7:15:17 AM PST by Velveeta
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To: Velveeta
If it will help any, see my summary at post #12186. It's not definitive, but it gives an overview from the beginning.
12,410 posted on 01/19/2004 7:27:23 AM PST by liberallyconservative
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To: StillProud2BeFree
today's the 19th - did you have to mention that? Now I'll be glued to this box all day again! LOL

BTW, Good morning all!

12,411 posted on 01/19/2004 7:47:55 AM PST by knak (wasknaknowknid)
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To: liberallyconservative
Thank you. Excellent summary. You all were busy on this thread this weekend!
12,412 posted on 01/19/2004 7:49:00 AM PST by Velveeta
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To: Velveeta
Oh, yeah. I turned my back for a few hours and was 400+ posts behind.
12,413 posted on 01/19/2004 8:10:02 AM PST by liberallyconservative
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To: liz44040
I woke up this morning and discovered that Tuscon is still on the map and the only carnage in Philadelphia yesterday was the Eagles getting whoopped. I hope no one stayed away from Tuscon or Phillie because of the Steve Qualye warnings.
12,414 posted on 01/19/2004 8:16:04 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: FairOpinion; Shermy; genefromjersey
Ping:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1013726/posts?page=12285#12285
12,415 posted on 01/19/2004 8:16:28 AM PST by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: JustPiper
"Please delete this post...thank you"

Which post? I am guessing you don't mean 11,681.

The way to handle such requests is via the abuse reporting system. Thanks

12,416 posted on 01/19/2004 8:29:17 AM PST by Lead Moderator
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To: windchime
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12,417 posted on 01/19/2004 8:33:52 AM PST by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: JustPiper
Well, that's pretty plain article. Is exactly what VP Cheney said, recently. For me, the most troubling aspect is, these people have the WILL to use WMD.
12,418 posted on 01/19/2004 9:09:44 AM PST by Letitring
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To: windchime
""where's the picture you all are looking at??????????"

I didn't get the top one at all...completely blank and the bottom is as you described it with the black area to the right(see you're not nuts,lol)...I'll have to jump into another browser and see if it helps.
12,419 posted on 01/19/2004 9:17:59 AM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: Calpernia; liz44040; JustPiper; Sabertooth; Labyrinthos; freeperfromnj; LayoutGuru2; jerseygirl; ...
Catching up on the thread…again.

Thanks everyone for the hard work! I've been monitoring this thread since it's beginning. It's been a very good source of information that is NOT on the lamestream media. I've seen reports here that I've seen no where else.

Please, if you haven't already, get yourselves prepared. It doesn't take that long or cost that much money.

I'm not sure if all of these threats are for real. I'd guess not many of them are. I agree that many of the threats on these sites are just to see if they can scare us into staying home which does hurt the economy. I'm not scared but am wary. I don't take any threats for granted.

IF anything happens (and that's a big IF), and I'm praying very hard that nothing does, it will happen fast and without warning. Thus my 'Be Prepared' motto.

http://www.fema.gov/pdf/areyouready/supplies.pdf

I vividly remember 9/11/01. There was a person on my floor walking around in a daze (deer in the headlights), saying that Leesburg, Va. has been hit. I contacted some friends in the town and verified that nothing such had happened. In situations like that, the hardest thing to do is to stay calm, rational, focused, and alert.

Be Prepared. Be Armed. Stay Alert.
12,420 posted on 01/19/2004 9:18:00 AM PST by appalachian_dweller (If we accept responsibility for our own actions, we are indeed worthy of our freedom. – Bill Whittle)
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