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To: presidio9
This is just idiotic. The internet is full of Anti-Christian quotes from Hitler.

Indeed it is. Why does your one quote from Hitler trump my 20? Nobody tests me at the door to my church to see if I have the moral fiber to be permitted inside. I know many catholics who whore, curse, verbally abuse the church, and beat their wives. It doesn't deter them from being considered catholic, or considering themselves catholic, and the church makes no move to strip them of their beads. Show me the official papers making Hitler, a baptised catholic, not a catholic.

201 posted on 11/06/2003 2:39:32 PM PST by donh (1)
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To: donh
You state you know many catholics that whore,curse,verbally abuse the church, and beat their wives.
I think you are making that up. Otherwise you whore with them, associate with them in cursing and verbally abuse the Catholic Church, and stand by in their homes while they are beating their wives. Also, you state, "...the church makes no move to strip them of their beads." I don't think you can misunderstand the purpose of a church more than this. Not just a Catholic church, but a Christian church.
A church is not a club. It is a community. It is formed for the purpose of bringing it's members closer to God. If a Catholic, or any Christian is sinning, then it is an offense to God. The church is there to support the individual and to bring them back. In the Catholic Church that is what the sacrament of confession is for. It is not a get out of jail free card. It is to help an individual who is repentant. Part of this is the desire not to sin and not to offend God. There are two elements to any church but let's stick with the Roman Catholic Church. There is the physical church, and the spiritual church.
Hitler may have been born a Catholic, he may have been babtized a Catholic, but he was not Catholic. Part of the tenant of the church is that your actions are intertwined with your intent. "Show me the official papers making Hitler,a babtized Catholic,not a Catholic." is a statement made from ignorence. In one of your earliest posts you stated you were born a catholic. Does that make you one now?

209 posted on 11/07/2003 1:09:26 AM PST by IrishCatholic
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To: donh
Show me the official papers making Hitler, a baptised catholic, not a catholic.

More nonsense. Religion is a contract between an individual and God. I have been a Catholic since Baptism, but no papers exist to document it. Does this mean that I am not a Catholic? There are no lawyers in religion dumbass.

212 posted on 11/07/2003 6:43:27 AM PST by presidio9 (a new birth of Freedom)
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