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Novak: No anti-Semitism in Gibson's 'Passion'
Chicago Sun Times ^ | 11-03-03

Posted on 11/03/2003 8:27:06 AM PST by Brian S

November 3, 2003

BY ROBERT NOVAK SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST

When a private viewing of Mel Gibson's ''The Passion of Christ'' was completed at a Washington hotel 10 days ago, my wife and I along with a dozen other invited guests were emotionally frozen into several minutes of silence. The question is whether public presentation of the film four months hence shall be welcomed by tumultuous demonstrations outside the theaters.

Hollywood actor Gibson, who spent more than $25 million of personal funds to produce ''The Passion,'' has finally found a distributor to begin its showing Feb. 25 -- Ash Wednesday. A campaign by some Jewish leaders to radically edit the film or, alternatively, prevent its exhibition appears to have failed. This opens the door to religious conflict if the critics turn their criticism into public protest.

That is not because of the content of ''The Passion.'' As a journalist who has actually seen what the producers call ''a rough cut'' of the movie and not just read about it, I can report it is free of the anti-Semitism that its detractors claim. The Anti-Defamation League and its allies began attacking the movie on the basis of reading a shooting script without having actually seen the film. The ADL carries a heavy burden in stirring religious strife about a piece of entertainment that, apart from its artistic value, is of deep religious significance for believing Christians.

The agitation peaked in early August when New York State Assemblyman Dov Hikind told a rally: ''This film is dangerous for Jews all over the world. I am concerned that it would lead to violence against Jews.''

Hikind had not viewed the film. After an ADL representative viewed a rough cut, longtime ADL director Abraham Foxman on Aug. 11 declared the movie ''will fuel hatred, bigotry and anti-Semitism.'' Foxman called on Gibson to change his film so that it would be ''free of any anti-Semitic message.''

This renews the dispute over the Jewish role in the crucifixion of Christ, the source of past Jewish persecution.

''The Passion'' depicts in two hours the last 12 hours of Jesus Christ's life. To watch him beaten, scourged and crucified so graphically is a shattering experience for believing Christians and surely for many non-Christians as well. It makes previous movie versions of the crucifixion look like Hollywood fluff. Gibson wants to avoid an ''R'' rating, but violence is not what bothers Foxman.

Foxman and other critics complain that the Jewish high priest Caiphas and a Jewish mob are demanding Christ's execution, but that is straight from the Gospels.

Father C. John McCloskey, director of the Catholic Information Center in Washington, told me: ''If you find the Scriptures anti-Semitic, you'll find this film anti-Semitic.''

Complaints by liberal Bible scholars that ''The Passion'' is not faithful to Scripture are rejected by the Vatican. Cardinal Dario Castrillon Hoyos, who heads the Congregation for the Clergy, called the film ''a triumph of art and faith,'' adding: ''Mel Gibson not only closely follows the narrative of the Gospels, giving the viewer a new appreciation for those biblical passages, but his artistic choices also make the film faithful to the meaning of the Gospels.''

As for inciting anti-Semitism, Cardinal Castrillon Hoyos contended ''the film does nothing of the sort.'' This Vatican official is denying that Gibson violates the 1965 papal document Nostra Aetate, which states: ''What happened in [Christ's] passion cannot be charged against all the Jews, without distinction, then alive, nor against the Jews of today.''

No such libel is committed by ''The Passion,'' where the mob's Jewish identity is not specified. As a Catholic convert, I was taught we are all sinners who share in guilt for the crucifixion.

At the heart of the dispute over ''The Passion'' is freedom of expression. Liberals who defended the right to exhibit Martin Scorsese's ''The Last Temptation of Christ,'' which deeply offended orthodox Christians, now demand censorship of ''The Passion of Christ.'' As a result, Abe Foxman and his allies have risked stirring religious tensions over a work of art.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News
KEYWORDS: antisemitism; moviereview; novak; passion; robertnovak; thepassion
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To: Qwinn
6 million Jews died in World War II. 9 million Polish died in World War II. Most Polish were Catholic. Do the math.

I just did. % of jews removed from poland?: 100%. % of poles removed from Poland?: substantially less than 100%.

81 posted on 11/03/2003 5:03:15 PM PST by donh (1)
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To: aynrandfreak; admin
Maybe the movie isn't anti-semitic, but Novak is.

Why is an outrageous post like this not immediately removed?

82 posted on 11/03/2003 5:04:38 PM PST by iconoclast
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To: Qwinn
6 million Jews died in World War II. 9 million Polish died in World War II. Most Polish were Catholic. Do the math.

I just did. % of jews removed from poland?: 100%. % of poles removed from Poland?: substantially less than 100%.

At any rate, what kind of argument is this? Would you be impressed if a serial killer told a judge, "wait am minute, I've killed people way more horribly than this murder I'm on trial for, so you should let me go.".

83 posted on 11/03/2003 5:06:22 PM PST by donh (1)
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To: donh
% of Jews killed in all of Europe? 80%

% of Jews NOT killed in Italy as a direct result of the Vatican's efforts? 80%

Qwinn
84 posted on 11/03/2003 5:06:30 PM PST by Qwinn
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To: Qwinn
MAN, you are hilarious!

The normal state of affairs is for priests to accompany armies in battle, in any western country. If you wish to suggest otherwise than the normal state of affairs, yours is the obligation of proof. I've seen the pictures, and, I suspect, so have you.

85 posted on 11/03/2003 5:10:49 PM PST by donh (1)
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To: Qwinn
% of Jews killed in all of Europe? 80%

% of Jews NOT killed in Italy as a direct result of the Vatican's efforts? 80%

Which amounts to some 6000, and you consider this a good score?

86 posted on 11/03/2003 5:13:28 PM PST by donh (1)
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To: presidio9; Bushbacker; aynrandfreak
To many, anyone that holds Israel and its interests as less than that/those of the 51st state is anti-Semitic.
87 posted on 11/03/2003 5:15:53 PM PST by iconoclast
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To: donh
No, actually, the Jewish population of Italy in 1933 was 50,000. 40,000 survived.

Qwinn

88 posted on 11/03/2003 5:44:54 PM PST by Qwinn
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To: donh
Interesting you still haven't given a SINGLE source for your allegations.
89 posted on 11/03/2003 6:10:33 PM PST by TomB
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To: donh
See, you don't know anything about history. Three million Poles were killed b/c they were untermenschen, not just cuz they were in the way. More Polish Christians than Jews. Whole villages, towns. It's insulting that you don't know that. It WAS genocide; the Polish Jews weren't the Nazi's own citizens; neither were the Christians. But they weren't Aryans. In fact, more Slavs were killed in camps, firing squad & etc than Jews.

Or did you miss that footnote to history, bigot.
90 posted on 11/03/2003 6:46:03 PM PST by sobieski
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To: TomB
Interesting you still haven't given a SINGLE source for your allegations.

"The Sword of Constantine" Look in the picture section for, among other things, Nazi posters that use biblical references, nazi nuns on the march, and, catholic mass being conducted for SS troops. Weisenthal's holocaust musuem has a similar gallery on display.

Interesting that your entire argument seems to consist of this.

91 posted on 11/03/2003 7:07:14 PM PST by donh (1)
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To: sobieski
Or did you miss that footnote to history, bigot.

What I missed, in your blizzard of factoids, was your refutation of my basic point, which was the Germany was at war with Poland.

92 posted on 11/03/2003 7:09:05 PM PST by donh (1)
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To: sobieski
Or did you miss that footnote to history, bigot.

What I missed, in your blizzard of factoids, was your refutation of my basic point, which was the Germany was at war with Poland.

93 posted on 11/03/2003 7:09:07 PM PST by donh (1)
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To: Qwinn
No, actually, the Jewish population of Italy in 1933 was 50,000. 40,000 survived.

I see. So the ratio is 40000/6000000 rather than 6000/6000000. Now I feel better.

94 posted on 11/03/2003 7:11:23 PM PST by donh (1)
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To: sobieski
It doesn't matter to him. Didn't you hear? What really matters is the percentage of the population that was killed. We have so many Catholics and others, you could kill 20 million of them and it wouldn't matter.

Hell, the millions upon millions of Catholics and Orthodox (and Jews, for that matter) killed for their faith in the Soviet Union and China still haven't managed to get a footnote in history.

But Pius! Yeah, he's the guy who needs yet another movie/book/thread to condemn him. Not Stalin. Or Mao. Neither of whom Hollywood has seen fit to make a negative film about yet. HMMMMMMM.

Qwinn
95 posted on 11/03/2003 7:11:53 PM PST by Qwinn
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To: donh
LOL - you compare the numbers in Italy to the numbers in all of Europe, and expect to be taken seriously?

Actually, the number of Jews saved throughout Europe by actions ordered and/or aided by the Pope, as noted by an eminent Israeli scholar with the most access to the truth, is 700,000-860,000.

But I'm certain you already knew this. You just can't help but spin to make the Church look bad. Agenda much?

Qwinn
96 posted on 11/03/2003 7:14:40 PM PST by Qwinn
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To: Qwinn; donh; All
First, DonH is wrong about Pope Pius.
While he did not do everything I would have liked, Puis XII and the Catholic Church purposely saved more Jews than any other group.

Regarding Poland, there were about 30 million Poles in 1939. About 9 million died. That is 30%. 2.7 Million of the 3 million Polish Jews died. That is 90%.
The Nazis never got around to their proposed murder of 1/3 of Slavs, enslavement of 1/3, and expulsion of the rest. However the killing of 6 million Polish Catholics or 25% thereof came close.

Regarding Novak, I am not sure that a convert to Catholicism from Judaism is the most objective source.
I have read good reports of the movuie. I have also read that parts of the movie are based on the ahistorical and anti-Semitic visions of a 19th century Nun. I will reserve judgement untill I see the movie and re-read the Christian Scriptures.

97 posted on 11/03/2003 7:35:39 PM PST by rmlew (Peaceniks and isolationists are objectively pro-Terrorist)
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To: donh; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...
http://www.catholicleague.org/pius/framemain.htm
http://members.aol.com/cmcginmd/PiusXII_Holocaust.htm

The most powerful man of the free world at the time was FDR and yet nobody ever blames him for not doing anything. Why do some protect socialists? And look at what he did with the boat load from Cuba.
98 posted on 11/03/2003 10:39:58 PM PST by Coleus (Only half the patients who go into an abortion clinic come out alive.)
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To: donh
Interesting that your entire argument seems to consist of this

Considering you have failed to back up even one of your allegations, yes, that is all the argument needed to see you are wrong.

99 posted on 11/04/2003 3:27:04 AM PST by TomB
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To: Qwinn; donh

"Being a lover of freedom, when the revolution came in Germany, I looked to the universities to defend it, knowing that they had always boasted of their devotion to the cause of truth; but, no, the universities immediately were silenced. Then I looked to the great editors of the newspapers whose flaming editorials in days gone by had proclaimed their love of freedom; but they, like the universities, were silenced in a few short weeks...

Only the Church stood squarely across the path of Hitler's campaign for suppressing truth. I never had any special interest in the Church before, but now I feel a great affection and admiration because the Church alone has had the courage and persistence to stand for intellectual truth and moral freedom. I am forced thus to confess that what I once despised I now praise unreservedly.

Albert Einstein
Time Magazine, 12/23/40

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The charity and work of Pope Pius XII during World War II so impressed the Chief Rabbi of Rome, Israel Zolli, that in 1944 he was open to the grace of God which led him into the Catholic faith. As his baptismal name, he took the same one Pius had, Eugenio, as his own. Later Israel Eugenio Zolli wrote a book entitled, Why I Became a Catholic.

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"The voice of Pius XII is a lonely voice in the silence and darkness enveloping Europe this Christmas... he is about the only ruler left on the Continent of Europe who dares to raise his voice at all... the Pope put himself squarely against Hitlerism... he left no doubt that the Nazi aims are also irreconcilable with his own conception of a Christian peace."

The New York Times editorial
12/25/41 (Late Day edition, p. 24)

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"This Christmas more than ever he is a lonely voice crying out of the silence of a continent... Pope Pius expresses as passionately as any leader on our side the war aims of the struggle for freedom when he says that those who aim at building a new world must fight for free choice of government and religious order. They must refuse that the state should make of individuals a herd of whom the state disposes as if they were lifeless things."

The New York Times editorial
12/25/42 (Late Day edition, p. 16)


100 posted on 11/04/2003 4:56:22 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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