[Friend of thunder]

I am sure this man, this bishop, – my bishop – thinks that, by condoning the ordination of Gene Robinson, he is doing the right thing, thinks that he is doing Gods will. While I am not a theologian, not a member of the clergy, just a part of the laity, I think he is mistaken.

If he truly “sees Scripture as a living guide for our lives, which, along with tradition and our God-given human reason, serves to help the church and its members faithfully live into God's new future” then he cannot (as I see things) believe it is the inspired word of God. If he does not believe Scripture is the inspired word of God (and he may claim to) how can he determine what is of God and what is of man?

These are troubling times for the Episcopal Church U.S.A., I am not sure what we can do but wait, watch and, pray.

[concerned about politics]

Psalm 12:8
The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.

Psalm 26:5
I abhor the assembly of evildoers and refuse to sit with the wicked.

[concerned about politics]

Psalm 36:3
The words of his mouth are wicked and deceitful; he has ceased to be wise and to do good.

[mom-7]

These so called Bishops are going to have a lot to answer for someday. May God have Mercy on them.

[concerned about politics]

Psalm 37:13
but the Lord laughs at the wicked, for he knows their day is coming.

[concerned about politics]

While I am not a theologian, not a member of the clergy, just a part of the laity, I think he is mistaken.

Read Romans I. There's no question you're right.
This church has joined the prophacised PC apostate. We were warned it was comming over 2000 years ago.

[Asclepius]

... I hope the ultimate meaning of the event is that the world realizes that in the Episcopal Church, absolutely no one is barred from full participation ...

Well, cool. I cannot wait for the first Moslem bishop. Or the first atheist bishop. Absolutely no one is barred from full participation, said he.

We need to commission a stained glass window for the National Cathedral that depicts a camel leaping nimbly through the eye of a needle. Or the depiction of a big, wide, superhighway clover-leaf entitled THE WAY IS NOT QUITE AS NARROW, OR AS STRAIGHT, AS I SUGGESTED. (All you saints and martyrs and apostles who died for Orthodoxy, hey, what can we say? Mistakes were made.)

[Archie Bunker on steroids]

Disguised in Bishops attire, the man has no interest in Christianity but the advancement and power of his fellow sodomites

[BlessedBeGod]

"...to respect the dignity of every human being" does not mean applauding and affirming their sin.

[concerned about politics]

Rom 1:21 - Because that, when they knew God, they glorified [him] not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

Rom 1:22 - Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

Rom 1:23 - And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

Rom 1:24 - Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

Rom 1:25 - Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

Rom 1:26 - For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

Rom 1:27 - And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

Rom 1:28 - And even as they did not like to retain God in [their] knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

Rom 1:29 - Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

Rom 1:30 - Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

Rom 1:31 - Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

Rom 1:32 - Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Maybe God will eventually let him get infected with AIDs like the others.

[MHGinTN]

An ordained Priest is one who pleads on our behalf to the Creator and Savior. Frankly, I don't imagine God receiving the pleadings of an adulterous Priest or a sodomite buggerer unrepentant from degenerate activities. The Episcopal Church is dying and this is but the latest of the death throes. [Something about the whore ... ?]

[nicmarlo]

Jeremiah 2


5 This is what the LORD says:

"What fault did your fathers find in me,
that they strayed so far from me?
They followed worthless idols
and became worthless themselves.
6 They did not ask, 'Where is the LORD ,
who brought us up out of Egypt
and led us through the barren wilderness,
through a land of deserts and rifts,
a land of drought and darkness,
a land where no one travels and no one lives?'
7 I brought you into a fertile land
to eat its fruit and rich produce.
But you came and defiled my land
and made my inheritance detestable.
8 The priests did not ask,
'Where is the LORD ?'
Those who deal with the law did not know me;
the leaders rebelled against me.
The prophets prophesied by Baal,
following worthless idols.

9 "Therefore I bring charges against you again,"
declares the LORD .

[aimhigh]

the dignity of every human being

There are no scriptures that speak about the "dignity" of human beings. Instead they speak of our sinfulness, and how we are condemned already. We are in need of a Saviour. Praise God He has come in Jesus.

[Lancey Howard]

The Episcopal Church can be the gay church. It can be their specialty, so to speak. Everybody else can find another church easily enough - - there's certainly plenty of protestant denominations to choose from, and most are pretty similar. Certainly, they all use have the same Bible. So let the Epicopal Church be the "gay church". It could be a good thing, attracting homosexuals who might otherwise shun Christianity to the teachings of Jesus.

[VOA]

That is Gospel truth.

This guy, Robinson and their fellow-travelers wouldn't know the Gospel if it bit
them on the fore-brain.

That's because they are WILLFULLY BLIND.
And think that a person has no greater love than to sanction participation in a
lifestyle that the Almighty condemns...and that is shown to be a health risk
Bad theologically...bad practically in health terms!

I'd almost say anyone who condones this sort of life-style should be prosecuted
for practicing (bad) medicine without a license!

[AmericanVictory]

As a former Episcopalian who spent most of his religious life in that Sect, I can say from personal experience as well as observance of the clear record that the Episcopal Church abandoned scripture long ago and has lost membership steadily ever since. In its place they have taken a noble tradition and changed it into hedonistic trendyism. As one highl-collared, purple vestmented pomposity put it when asked by a Fox reporter on the original go round, the Bible is "just one of many documents." I identify with the conservative Southern Maryland pastor who said he did not know what his livelihood would be or what he would do, but he was unable to go along with this decision by a church he aptly and accurately described as "in a coffin flying to Hell."

What sacrifice is left for those who have known the Lord and have thrown him away?

[Saundra Duffy]

You forgot to include a BARF alert. I'd leave this church in a heartbeat if I were a member.

[MinuteGal]

The propaganda and spin campaign from the liberal church hierarchy continues apace.

These Episcopalian clerical writers and speakers are highly educated as well as long-experienced and talented in employing smooth and soothing words.

Robinson WILL be ordained amidst much fanfare and churchly pomp and circumstance.

I'm afraid the break-away movement will collapse. In fact, I would bet on it.

The laity loves high-sounding rhetoric. They buy into it even if the rhetoric is tinged with covert, implied guilt trips on those concerned about a gay bishop who abandoned his wife and children to openly cohabitate with a gay lover.

Most people tend to go along to get along, but we knew that a long time ago.

Leni

[StonyBurk]

And even as they did not like to retain God in their minds,
God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convienent.(RO 1:28) Paul-and the Apostles
had proper respect for all human beings. They also were obediant to Christ(Matthew 22:37) How any can claim obediance yet promote that which the Bible teaches is "Abomination" is beyond my comprehension.

[NoControllingLegalAuthority]

This turns the true meaning of Christianity on its head. There is not a single righteous man in the world. There is not a single soul who could stand in the presdence of God but for the sacrifice of His Holy Son.

There is no dignity of man. There is simply forgiveness through faith in Jesus Christ. Forgiveness requires, first, admitting to sin, and then asking for forgiveness.

These apostates consider sodomy to be no problem. If a man denies his sin, he is a liar and the truth is not in him.

[AngrySpud]

" .. sees Scripture as a living guide for our lives."

See the parallel with the U.S. Constitution? He sees the Bible as a "living document", to be interpreted in the time one lives in. Nothing is constant, interpret it anyway you want.