Sobran: My Obsession with Jews [for all who mistakenly think he is a valuable contributor]

Federal Observer ^ | maybe 10/30/03 | Joe Sobran

[Mr. Bird]

The plague-carriers, so to speak, are the secularized, liberal, middlebrow Jews

There's no denying the bigotry here. The defining difference between a Jew and another is their religion. To state that secularized Jews are a problem of sorts is to state that there is something inherently sinister about them, regardless of whether they are devout or not. He may as well have stated they have horns.

[AmishDude]

Are paleos therefore always anti-Semites?

That's a good question. Of course, anyone can style himself a paleo and not be an anti-Semite, but it seems more than a little curious to me that, among the professional writers who style themselves paleocons these days, they tend to eminate the same wavelength on the Israel question and tend to eminate it quite brightly.

[Chancellor Palpatine]

Ah, those perfidious Jews, at the root of every ill....

[sinkspur]

Mr. Sobran is one of the clearest thinking conservative pundits writing today.

He's a Jew-hater.

Conservatives don't need clowns like he and Charley Reese.

[Dialup Llama]

>I guess the thing to do is to email this "article" to him and ask him if he really wrote it, or not?

The article is on the Sobran website. It was called The Obsession and was sent out as part of an email journal. These other websites took the article and gave it a new title.

[Delphinium]

Sobran is re-packaging an ancient smear.

Satan is repackaging an ancient smear. Sobran is just the vessel.

[Graybeard58]

"calling out Streisand and Spielberg's Judaism is pretty suspicious"

...You are right. It would have been less suspicious had he pointed out their utterly stupid liberal political philosophy.

[RANGERAIRBORNE]

I stand corrected- Sobran IS a moron. I went to his site and this is, in fact, in his email edition for 5/02- word for word. Unbelievable- but at least he tells us exactly where he stands.

I think he has lost his mind- the days of American isolationism ended in December 1941,for ever. Father Coughlin is dead and buried- but his spirit apparently remains.

[Steve_Seattle]

"This paragraph is the essnce of the piece, and what we have here is a restatement of the Medieval idea of the "dirty Jew," the corrupting Jew, the Jew as a defective human, the Jew who undermines good, clean Christian values. Yes, there are many Jews who fit this profile, but there inummerably more Catholics, Protestants, and non-Jewish secularists who fit it. Sobran is re-packaging an ancient smear."

Let me clarify myself here. In saying "there are many Jews who fit this profile," I was not referring back to the "defective human" phrase but to the other phrases pertaining to people believed to be "corrupters of society," and I was emphasizing that whereas some of these people might be Jews, most are not. But Sobran's phrase "plague carriers" harkens back to the Nazi view of Jews as "defective humans," and I would not use that phrase - with its eugenic and biological connotations - to describe people who I simply view as "bad influences."

[St.Chuck]

He's a Jew-hater.

He denies it. Why should anyone believe that accusation.

[Steve_Seattle]

"I didn't get that at all."

Referring to Jews as "plague carriers" didn't suggest some kind of racial, biological smear to you? Holding Jews - and no one else - totally responsible for a perceived decline in social values doesn't remind you of anything? Doesn't remind you of Hitler?

[B-Chan]

Israel, warts and all, is the only outpost of Civilization — and by that I mean real, Western civilization, not the faux Arabic/Islamist version — in the Middle East. To oppose Israel is to oppose a part of our civilization.

Jews, warts and all, are God‘s chosen people. To persecute them is to persecute God.

For these two reasons, I support Israel and oppose anti-semitism.

There has existed over the years a conspiracy to destroy the West and the Christian faith that created it — but this is no “Jewish conspiracy”; rather, it is conspiracy founded, led by, and consisting mainly of atheistic intellectuals. Since intellectualism is part and parcel of Jewish culture, it is only natural that a certain number of the God-hating people who have promoted this conspiracy over the years have sprung from that culture. From Marx, Freud, and the Bolsheviks to the Woody Allens and Peter Singers of our day, a twining vine of anti-Westernism has wound its way through cosmopolitan Jewish culture, a vine that has provided ideological support for various anti-Christian, anti-Western, and various other revolutionary endeavors. But at the root of all of this hartred for Christianity and the West lies not Jewishness, but atheism — a hatred of God and His laws.

And a Jew that hates the God of the Jews is a Jew that has abandoned everything that is truly Jewish.

Hatred of God is hardly a sin exclusive to the Jews. Voltaire was not a Jew. Neither was Mao Tse-Tung. Nor were Robespierre, Napoleon, Nero, Stalin, Weishaupt, the Spanish Reds, the dictators of Mexico, or any of the thousand of other individuals and groups throughout history who have attempted to destroy God and the Western Christian civilization established by Him. Why single out those that were Jews?

Mr. Sobran is wrong. Jews – true Jews, Jews that honor the traditions, heritage, and God of their ancestors — are not the enemy; they are the truest friends we Christians have in this world. Hatred of God is the real foe of Western civilization, and of every human being. Let‘s fight the real enemy.

[Sabertooth]

anyone can style himself a paleo and not be an anti-Semite, but it seems more than a little curious to me that, among the professional writers who style themselves paleocons these days, they tend to eminate the same wavelength on the Israel question and tend to eminate it quite brightly.

Yeah, and Klansmen and Aryan Nations trolls style themselves as Christians, giving anti-Christians fuel for whatever demagogic flames they might want to throw.

I'm a wee bit leary of broadbrushed labelization.

[Catspaw]

Do you believe that Jews are "plague carriers?"

[Poohbah]

He denies it. Why should anyone believe that accusation.

Did you actually read this piece, or just run your finger across the words and move your lips to fool us?

[sinkspur]

He denies it.

Of course he does. He also thinks it's just dandy to use a "dirty Jew" smear, all the while denying that's what he's doing.

Sobran has done this for too long.

[anotherview]

Does that mean you agree with his anti-Semetic diatribes? His hatred of Israel? How is that worthwhile?

[malakhi]

Thanks, CP. This one is definitely worth a bookmark.

[steve-b]

Sobran has been flirting with this stuff

More like Sobran and this stuff have been tasting each other's tonsils.