Southern California Fires -- Live Thread 10/29

[lainie]

Cal Fire Maps

http://wildfire.cr.usgs.gov/ca_geomac/viewer.htm

http://www.incidentcontrol.com

http://www.firedetect.ssd.nesdis.noaa.gov/Run.htm

Live online scanner feeds for fire, cops, CDF, air attack

http://www.live365.com/stations/kb6jag

FYI, this one gives pop ups if you use it.

No pop ups on this feed

http://www.police-scanner.info/livescan.htm

Another live scanner feed.

Click on Big Bear Feed

http://www.compucations.com/nuke/html/modules.php?name=LiveScanners

another live feed for socal, Verdugo Fire Communications Center

http://verdugo.ci.glendale.ca.us/radio.html

Simi Valley fire scanner

http://www.shoutcast.com/directory/?s=scanner&numresult=100&x=34&y=9

http://209.153.152.2:8888 lots of scanner chatter in Ventura county

CHP Dispatch

http://cad.chp.ca.gov/

CDF AIR CHANNELS

Red - 151.220 - Air to ground units Blue - 151.280 - Air to air Green - 151.295 - Air to air Yellow - 151.310 - Air to air Victor - 122.925 AM - Air to air for contract helicopters

List of channels for SoCal

http://www.qsl.net/ke6alv/

Get a copy of Police call for when you're mobile.

http://www.policecall.com/

San Bernardino National Forest

171.475 mhz and 172.225

123.9750 National Air Tanker Base Freq. 135.9750 Air ops 151.2200 CDF Red Air to Ground 151.2650 CDF Region 151.3100 CDF Air Tactics 6 151.3550 CDF Command Net 1 154.2650 OES White Fire 2 154.2800 OES White Fire 1 154.2950 OES White Fire 3 164.1250 Fire Camp Service Net 166.6125 "Command" Fontana area 166.8500 Air attack 167.9500 BLM Air to Ground 168.0500 NIFC Tac 1 168.0750 NIFC Tac 3 168.200 NIFC Tac 2 (Crew Net) 168.2500 BLM? "Command" 168.4000 BLM "Command" 168.6000 NIFC Tac 3 168.6250 Air Guard 169.1250 Calif. Fire Travel Net 169.0625 vehicle mechanics? 170.0000 Air to Ground Region 5 173.9125 Region 5 Tac 4 173.9625 Region 5 Tac 5 173.9875 Region 5 Tac 6 415.5500 National Air channel

HAM

145.220

Los Angeles Area

KNBC: http://www.nbc4.tv

KABC: http://www.abc7.com

KCBS: http://www.cbs2.com

KTTV: http://www.fox11la.com

KCAL: http://www.kcal.com

Good list of SoCal television stations and links to their websites:

http://newslink.org/catele.html

San Diego

http://nbcsandiego.feedroom.com/?fr_story=af0368e01c0323615f2e6f30970885b317fe905c

http://www.kogo.com/streaming.html

List of online TV and Newspapers in Ca.

http://www.keepandbeararms.com/opsd/np/ca.htm

2 posted on 10/27/2003 9:18 PM PST by spectr17

[TomGuy]

Can't tell. Are they both covering the Old/Grand Prix fires?

I'm not sure. MSNBC feed doesn't seem to have audio and the CBS webcam guy doesn't always give location. He did just say "What, 3 quarters of a mile from Van Nuis(?)" [I assume he means the fire is that close.]

[dogbyte12]

Van Nuys

It's a city in the San Fernando Valley.

[RayChuang88]

You know, one idea I've heard suggested that might actually work is to drop bombs or launch small rockets with warheads filled with liquid nitrogen (which is widely available since liquid nitrogen is widely used in commercial refrigeration). Essentially an endothermic device (which means it spreads extreme cold instead of extreme heat as you get from normal explosives), such a device could literally snuff out the fire since 1) it will immediately deprive the fire of its oxygen source and 2) the extremely low temperatures from the liquid nitrogen will also stop the fire in its tracks. Since nitrogen is a major component of Earth's atmosphere, using these devices will not have an effect on air pollution or global warming.

Imagine a C-130 dropping a modified BLU-82 Daisy Cutter bomb that has instead of the bomb filled with explosives a Dewar flask (essentially a giant Thermos bottle filled with liquid nitrogen) right on the fire. The endothermic effect from releasing all that liquid nitrogen could snuff out the fire on a pretty large radius from the point of impact.

[TomGuy]

Massive smoke plume shooting up.

[bonesmccoy]

[JHENN22499]

Smoke may be too dense with fog bank

[farmer18th]

TomGuy, where is that picture from?

[farmer18th]

I heard that one too. He mentioned by the "dump." Where is that?

[TomGuy]

[Below] The guy on the CBS webcam said it was "real weird; like being over a volcano or something."

[JHENN22499]

radio just said they are not using aircraft as they feel backburning is effective right now.

[TomGuy]

TomGuy, where is that picture from?

I'm not sure. It was from the CBS webcam, but I haven't heard them give a location. Earlier (an hour or so), they said something about being above Stevenson Ranch.

Burbank and Van Nuys airports down to less than 1 mile visability.
Copter is just above Ote(?) Mountain.

[JHENN22499]

keeping all the fires straight is tough when there is so much infor coming in, and I'm not familiar with the mtn names. I really feel for all of you suffering through this.
Prayers being said.

[farmer18th]

I haven't heard anything about the extents of the threatened areas, whether hesperia or Angeles Oaks on the other side. All the chatter seems to be about Running Springs.

[cartoonistx]

Here's today's burning issue cartoon!