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SoCal Fires Live Thread 10/28
10/28/03 | Myself

Posted on 10/27/2003 9:17:40 PM PST by spectr17

SoCal Fires Live Thread 10/28


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: firestorm; forestfire; michaeldobbs; prayerlist; socalfires; wildfire
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To: lainie; null and void; viaveritasvita
You'll have to pardon my ignorance, but isn't the timing of these fires a bit odd considering the language Davis used to describe the fires and Arnold's language about circumstances under which he might raise taxes.

So, isn't there just a teensy weensie chance that Davis and Mullholland arranged for this particular "natural" disaster???

I believe they called this tactic "scorched earth."

Literally.
2,421 posted on 10/28/2003 8:02:27 PM PST by jmstein7
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To: Enough is ENOUGH
ROFL!!

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2,422 posted on 10/28/2003 8:03:15 PM PST by viaveritasvita ("When Love takes you in, everything changes.")
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To: viaveritasvita
Yeah, I'm going to Cambodia in a few weeks and have a few commitments here, I usually get out to his place a few times a year or so. Going to San Diego when you are in Phoenix in July is a luxury...
2,423 posted on 10/28/2003 8:03:17 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Which is the most universal human characteristic? Fear or Laziness?)
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To: lainie
Lanie- You just percieve that the desert is bare. Fires in Northern Nevada a couple of years ago burned for miles and miles because no one thought there was any "fuel" out there. Today lots of that area still looks like a moonscape. There is more fuel than you might think. Please stay alert and stay safe. Pack something and the important papers just in case.
2,424 posted on 10/28/2003 8:04:11 PM PST by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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SB scanner: fire on both sides of hwy 79, wind gusts in the mid 50's
2,426 posted on 10/28/2003 8:04:37 PM PST by lainie
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To: sandyeggo
Thanks much! She is going to call her squadron tomorrow to see if they are all okay. She said they are getting no information where she is at in Maine. She quit watching CNN and now on the computer looking for information.

Without FR and these internet links, we would be lost if we had to depend on cable news.
2,427 posted on 10/28/2003 8:04:39 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Don't forget to Visit/donate at http://www.georgewbush.com)
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To: ridesthemiles
In light of the fact that as of yet, no houses have been lost at Stevenson Ranch, I think it's safe to assume that it's the hill burning behind the house.
2,428 posted on 10/28/2003 8:04:43 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: Wolfstar
Thanks. As a group, FReepers do know almost everything.

Except why are there no green mammals?

2,429 posted on 10/28/2003 8:05:07 PM PST by null and void (Sorry, it's my personal monomania...)
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To: null and void
Hey you!

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2,430 posted on 10/28/2003 8:05:37 PM PST by viaveritasvita ("When Love takes you in, everything changes.")
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To: webvanca
"new" 40 acre fire near crestline back west by silverlake..finger of bigger arrowhead fire more east

It seems like that fire is jumping in many directions tonight.

I think tomorrow will he the turning point for better or worse, depending on how strong the winds are coming up the hill.

2,432 posted on 10/28/2003 8:06:38 PM PST by WestCoastGal
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To: viaveritasvita
Great! That's exactly what I hope will happen with my friends/family! That and the hope that they'll forward it to THEIR friends/family. If nothing else, I hope more and more people will be praying. The scope is really more than we can calculate at the moment.

The scope is much more than I had expected or thought possible myself. I grew up in Ohio. Fires were put out the same day they started, almost without failure. I knew California and other western areas had more significant fires, but this is the first one that I've followed play-by-play and I'm feeling very bad about the incredible devastation. I know from reading here that this is the worst in years, and I'm doing my best to get a grasp on the situation. I'm as fixated on this as I was on 9/11 - it has captivated my attention.

Your e-mail is a powerful, but accurate representation of the situation as far as I can see from my perspective as a freeper. It is good.

2,433 posted on 10/28/2003 8:06:38 PM PST by meyer
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To: hole_n_one
If anyone can point me to a list of live TV/radio feeds and scanner streams, I'd appreciate it. The KNBC News internet feed just went off, I presume so they could show Whoopi.
2,434 posted on 10/28/2003 8:06:54 PM PST by Timesink
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To: jmstein7
I sure wouldn't be surprised.

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2,435 posted on 10/28/2003 8:07:08 PM PST by viaveritasvita ("When Love takes you in, everything changes.")
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To: null and void
Because green mammals would look... odd?
2,436 posted on 10/28/2003 8:07:09 PM PST by Ladypixel (Ashes keep fallin' on my head...)
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To: Timesink
CHP site back up 
 
Most Recent Incidents
Number of Incidents: 10                        Last Updated at: 10/28/2003 8:06:35 PM
Time Area No. Type   Location
8:05:31 PM   Border Comm Center   0881   Structure or Grass Fire    GILMAN DR AT VIA ALICANTE
8:05:09 PM   Altadena   3061   Traffic Collision - No Details    EB I210 JWO N BALDWIN AV
8:03:35 PM   East Los Angeles   3056   Traffic Hazard - Vehicle    EB SR60 TO SB I605 CON
8:03:04 PM   San Gorgonio Pass   1500   Traffic Hazard - Debris/Object    EB I10 MM 22
8:02:23 PM   Yuba-Sutter   1795   Fire    SR70 AT LAURELLEN RD
8:02:08 PM   Altadena   3051   Hit and Run - No Injuries    985 E POPPYFIELDS DR
8:01:28 PM   San Jose   2406   Disabled Vehicle    EB SR237 JWO ZANKER RD
8:01:10 PM   South Sacramento   1791   Traffic Hazard    POWER INN RD JNO SCOTTSDALE DR
8:01:05 PM   Marin   2404   Traffic Hazard - Vehicle    SB US101 JSO GOLDEN GATE BRDG NE
8:00:41 PM   Merced Comm Center   0757   Traffic Collision - No Injuries    WASHINGTON ST AT SR108
 

2,437 posted on 10/28/2003 8:08:12 PM PST by wolficatZ (___><))))*>____\0/____/|____"flipper to the rescue...")
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To: webvanca
Current Conditions
69°
Relative Humidity 68%
Wind North 0 mph
Sky Haze

from CBS2

creating it's own local winds is right!
2,438 posted on 10/28/2003 8:08:25 PM PST by amom
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To: lainie
So the wind is now gusting -- really bad news!
2,439 posted on 10/28/2003 8:08:59 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Don't forget to Visit/donate at http://www.georgewbush.com)
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To: spectr17
MSNBC showing:



Forecast is that the winds may be changing overnight--which will be good news.


2,440 posted on 10/28/2003 8:09:10 PM PST by TomGuy
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