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Affidavit of Carla Iyer, nurse who cared for Terri Schiavo from April 1995 to July 1996
Terri's Fight (website established on Terri's behalf by her parents and that side of the family) ^ | August 29, 2003 | Carla Iyer

Posted on 10/23/2003 5:58:54 PM PDT by First_Salute

AFFIDAVIT
_________

STATE OF FLORIDA )
COUNTY OF PINELLAS )

BEFORE ME the undersigned authority personally appeared CARLA
SAUER IYER, R.N., who being first duly sworn, deposes and says:

1. My name is Carla Sauer Iyer. I am over the age of eighteen and make
this statement of my own personal knowledge.

2. I am a registered nurse in the State of Florida, having been licensed
continuously in Florida from 1997 to the present. Prior to that I was a
Licensed Practical Nurse for about four years.

3. I was employed at Palm Garden of Largo Convalescent Center in
Largo, Florida from April 1995 to July 1996, while Terri Schiavo
was a patient there.

4. It was clear to me at Palm Gardens that all decisions regarding Terri
Schiavo were made by Michael Schiavo, with no allowance made for
any discussion, debate or normal professional judgment. My initial
training there consisted solely of the instruction "Do what Michael
Schiavo tells you or you will be terminated." This struck me as
extremely odd.

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5. I was very disturbed by the decision making protocol, as no allowance
whatsoever was made for professional responsibility. The atmosphere
throughout the facility was dominated by Mr. Schiavo's intimidation.
Everyone there, with the exception of several people who seemed to be
close to Michael, was intimidated by him. Michael Schiavo always
had an overbearing attitude, yelling numerous times such things as
"This is my order and you're going to follow it." He is very large and
uses menacing body language, such as standing too close to you,
getting right in your face and practically shouting.

6. To the best of my recollection, rehabilitation had been ordered for
Terri, but I never saw any being done or had any reason at all to
believe that there was ever any rehab of Terri done at Palm Gardens
while I was there. I became concerned because Michael wanted
nothing done for Terri at all, no antibiotics, no tests, no range of
motion therapy, no stimulation, no nothing. Michael said again and
again that Terri should NOT get any rehab, that there should be no
range of motion whatsoever, or anything else. I and a CNA named
Roxy would give Terri range of motion anyway. One time I put a
wash cloth in Terri's hand to keep her fingers from curling together,

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and Michael saw it and made me take it out, saying that was therapy.

7. Terri's medical condition was systematically distorted and
misrepresented by Michael. When I worked with her, she was alert
and oriented. Terri spoke on a regular basis while in my presence,
saying such things as "mommy," and "help me." "Help me" was, in
fact, one of her most frequent utterances. I heard her say it hundreds
of times. Terri would try to say the word "pain" when she was in
discomfort, but it came out more like "pay." She didn't say the "n"
sound very well. During her menses she would indicate her discomfort
by saying "pay" and moving her arms toward her lower abdominal
area. Other ways that she would indicate that she was in pain included
pursing her lips, grimacing, thrashing in bed, curling her toes or
moving her legs around. She would let you know when she had a
bowel movement by flipping up the covers and pulling on her diaper
and scooted in bed on her bottom.

8. When I came into her room and said "Hi, Terri", she would always
recognize my voice and her name, and would turn her head all the way
toward me, saying "Haaaiiiii" sort of, as she did. I recognized this as a
"hi", which is very close to what it sounded like, the whole sound

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being only a second or two long. When I told her humrous stories
about my life or something I read in the paper, Terri would chuckle,
sometimes more a giggle or laugh. She would move her whole body,
upper and lower. Her legs would sometimes be off the bed, and need
to be repositioned. I made numerous entries into the nursing notes in
her chart, stating verbatim what she said and her various behaviors, but
by my next on-duty shift, the notes would be deleted from her chart.
Every time I made a positive entry about any responsiveness of Terri's,
someone would remove it after my shift ended. Michael always
demanded to see her chart as soon as he arrived, and would take it in
her room with him. I documented Terri's rehab potential well,
writing whole pages about Terri's responsiveness, but they would
always be deleted by the next time I saw her chart. The reason I wrote
so much was that everybody else seemed to be afraid to make positive
entries for fear of their jobs, but I felt very strongly that a nurses job
was to accurately record everything we see and hear that bears on a
patients condition and their family. I upheld the Nurses Practice Act,
and if it cost me my job, I was willing to accept that.

9. Throughout my time at Palm Gardens, Michael Schiavo was focused

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on Terri's death. Michael would say "When is she going to die?,"
"Has she died yet?" and "When is that bitch gonna die?" These
statements were common knowledge at Palm Gardens, as he would
make them casually in passing, without regard even for who he was
talking to, as long as it was a staff member. Other statements which I
recall him making include "Can't anything be done to accelerate her
death - won't she ever die?" When she wouldn't die, Michael would
be furious. Michael was also adamant that the family should not be
given information. He made numerous statements such as "Make sure
the parents aren't contacted." I recorded Michael's statements word
for word in Terri's chart, but these entries were also deleted after the
end of my shift. Standing orders were that the family wasn't to be
contacted, in fact, there was a large sign in the front of her chart that
said under no circumstances was her family to be called, call Michael
immediately, but I would call them, anyway, because I thought they
should know about their daughter.

10. Any time Terri would be sick, like with a UTI or fluid buildup in her
lungs, colds, or pneumonia, Michael would be visibly excited, thrilled
even, hoping that she would die. He would say something like,

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"Hallelujah! You've made my day!" He would call me, as I was the
nurse supervisor on the floor, and ask for every little detail about her
temperature, blood pressure, etc., and would call back frequently
asking if she was dead yet. He would blurt out "I'm going to be rich!"
and would talk about all the things he would buy when Terri died,
which included a new car, a new boat, and going to Europe, among
other things.

11. When Michael visited Terri, he always came alone and always had the
door closed and locked while he was with Terri. He would typically
be there about twenty minutes or so. When he left Terri would be
trembling, crying hysterically, and would be very pale and have cold
sweats. It looked to me like Terri was having a hypoglycemic reaction,
so I'd check her blood sugar. The glucometer reading would be so low
it was below the range where it would register an actual number
reading. I would put dextrose in Terri's mouth to counteract it. This
happened about five times on my shift, as I recall. Normally Terri's
blood sugar levels were very stable due to the uniformity of her diet
through tube feeding. It is medically possible that Michael injected
Terri with Regular insulin, which is very fast acting, but I don't have

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any way of knowing for sure.

12. The longer I was employed at Palm Gardens the more concerned I
became about patient care, both relating to Terri Schiavo, for the
reasons I've said, and other patients, too. There was an LPN named
Carolyn Adams, known as "Andy" Adams who was a particular
concern. An unusual number of patients seemed to die on her shift,
but she was completely unconcerned, making statements such as
"They are old - let them die." I couldn't believe her attitude or the fact
that it didn't seem to attract any attention. She made many comments
about Terri being a waste of money, that she should die. She said it
was costing Michael a lot of money to keep her alive, and that he
complained about it constantly (I heard him complain about it all the
time, too.) Both Michael and Adams said that she would be worth
more to him if she were dead. I ultimately called the police relative to
this situation, and was terminated the next day. Other reasons were
cited, but I was convinced it was because of my "rocking the boat."

13. Ms. Adams was one of the people who did not seem to be intimidated
by Michael. In fact, they seemed to be very close, and Adams would
do whatever Michael told her. Michael sometimes called Adams at

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night and spoke at length. I was not able to hear the content of these
phone calls, but I knew it was him talking to her because she would
tell me afterward and relay orders from him.

14. I have contacted the Schindler family because I just couldn't stand by
and let Terri die without the truth being known.

FURTHER AFFIANT SAYETH NAUGHT.

<signed>
CARLA SAUER IYER, R.N.

The foregoing instrument was acknowledged before me this 29 day of August,
2003, by CARLA SAUER IYER, R.N., who produced her Florida's driver's license
as identification, and who did take an oath.

<signed Patricia J. Anderson>
Notary Public

My commission expires
<Notary seal of Patricia J. Anderson>

 


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: abortion; livingwill; michaelschiavo; nursinghome; righttodie; righttolife; schindler; terrischiavo
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To: editor-surveyor
Thanks. I'm on it.
141 posted on 10/23/2003 9:38:47 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: RLK
However, he wants something else under some guise. I suspect the man is protecting himself from something that will come out if she regains functional speech.

Or any kind of communication even yes-no that is sufficient to recount what happened. It would be an immense wonder if she did given her vast brain damage, but that gets into the whole body-mind philosophical issue and I am very unwilling to state what God can or can't do with even a little piece of brain.

142 posted on 10/23/2003 9:40:05 PM PDT by The Red Zone
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
I'll bet you believe Michael's story that Terri told him she wouldn't want to live on life support though, huh?
143 posted on 10/23/2003 9:51:14 PM PDT by Shethink13
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To: FatherOfLiberty; snopercod; DB; brityank
Regarding my earlier remark in Reply 124, above:
I am given to understand that as a matter of law, Terri would have to have not only stated that she did "not want to live that way," she would also have had to state that she did not wish to be given food nor water in the event of her incapacity.

I based that on some of the law that I ran across, but of course cannot find it now.

However, here is the contrary view of the Second District Court of Appeal, which is also in the previous lawsuit of September 22, 2002 :

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
MIDDLE DISTRICT OF FLORIDA
TAMPA DIVISION
Civil Action No.: 8:03-CV-1860-T-26-TGW



THERESA MARIE SCHINDLER
SCHIAVO, Incapacitated, by her
Parents and Next Friends, ROBERT
and MARY SCHINDLER,

[snip]

23. In the course of the appellate proceedings, the Second District Court of
Appeal enunciated the following policies under Florida's statutory scheme
for termination of "life-prolonging" measures under Chapter 765:

A. The incapacitated ward is generally not entitled to an
independent guardian ad litem in proceedings that can result in
her death, as the trial judge "essentially serves as the ward's
guardian" in a Chapter 765 proceeding, and an independent
guardian ad litem would only "duplicate" the function of the
trial judge, regardless of how egregious and obvious the
conflict of interest between the ward and her court-appointed
guardian. In re Guardianship of Schiavo, 780 So.2d 176, 179
(Fla. 2d DCA 2001)("Schiavo 1").

B. A ward can be deprived of food and water, and thus killed,
without proof of any specific advanced directive addressing food
and water by G-tube, and based on nothing more than
spontaneous, generalized, pre-incapacity oral remarks about
"artificial" life support.

C. The requisite medical condition of "persistent vegetative state"
(PVS) can be proven, and the ward killed, based on a mere
preponderance of the evidence.

The judges in the State of Florida do not require much to kill you these days.

The "legal experts" who have argued to take your guns, may not bother, and instead, might merely find you "sleeping it off."

ZZZZZ...buzzZAP!

Next case.

144 posted on 10/23/2003 9:57:10 PM PDT by First_Salute (God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: madison10
"What a strange conclusion you draw. Maybe she's in hiding. "

I would be hiding too if I were her. I was told tonight that the other 2 nurses that filed affidavits like this one did are now dead. No one knows the details on that though.

i think i have all 3 of them at http://webpages.charter.net/honeygrl/terri.txt (file was made by pc93)
145 posted on 10/23/2003 9:58:14 PM PDT by honeygrl
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To: honeygrl
Please note the dates when the affidavits were taken. None of these nurses are dead.
146 posted on 10/23/2003 10:01:09 PM PDT by First_Salute (God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: RLK
And let's not forget that Terri's alleged wish to not be kept on tubes was also late revealed.




Not late revealed, late concocted of convenience and necessity.




And wasn't it only concocted *after* attorney George Felos became involved with Michael Schiavo?
147 posted on 10/23/2003 10:03:13 PM PDT by lonevoice
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To: jwalsh07
I read the entire brief and I'm so disgusted! So what is the status of this action? Apparently, it didn't work to stop the starvation and abuse. What's it good for then? Are the courts using it for toilet paper?
148 posted on 10/23/2003 10:05:50 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: joanie-f
You might want to send this along, too.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Too.

149 posted on 10/23/2003 10:08:42 PM PDT by First_Salute (God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: lonevoice
See Reply 124, above.
150 posted on 10/23/2003 10:09:57 PM PDT by First_Salute (God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: Catspaw
I'd want testimony in court, along with other witnesses, documentation and evidence before I could give any credibility to witness based on an affidavit.

And what documentation and evidence give credibility to Michael's statement that Terri would want to be kept alive "artificially"? Do you believe his statements without question? What about documentation? Corroborating witnesses? Was he cross-examined?

151 posted on 10/23/2003 10:10:22 PM PDT by Shethink13
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To: Saundra Duffy
See item 23 in Reply 105, above.
152 posted on 10/23/2003 10:12:05 PM PDT by First_Salute (God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: Shethink13
See item 23 in Reply 105, above.
153 posted on 10/23/2003 10:16:57 PM PDT by First_Salute (God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
No way. This is a total farce.

You can laugh at me if you want to but I think this is a spiritual battle.

154 posted on 10/23/2003 10:18:51 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: First_Salute
He testified that he was going to become a nurse and devote his whole life to taking care of her. He presented a detailed rehabilitation plan to the jury, a plan devised by a rehabilitation specialist.

LOL! Satan is alive and well and living inside Michael Schiavo, not to mention the demonic twin, the attorney.

155 posted on 10/23/2003 10:21:00 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Saundra Duffy
"Twins."

LOL, too.

156 posted on 10/23/2003 10:21:55 PM PDT by First_Salute (God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: FreedomMan_CA
Tinfoil hat bump.
157 posted on 10/23/2003 10:22:20 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: First_Salute
Thanks but I'm still confused. What is the legal status of the case?
158 posted on 10/23/2003 10:25:20 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: First_Salute
We live in strange times...
159 posted on 10/23/2003 10:26:50 PM PDT by DB (©)
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To: attagirl
Replies 105 and 124 - bump.
160 posted on 10/23/2003 10:27:16 PM PDT by First_Salute (God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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