TERRI SCHIAVO MISSING - REMOVED FROM HOSPITAL W/O FAMILY'S CONSENT [Update: She's back at Hospice]

Bay News 9 TV - Florida | 10/22/03 | dandelion

[SeattleTiger]

Check out the Chicago Tribune article. I don't know if this is old news, but it sounds like they may be moving on the spousal abuse allegations.

[dc27]

Reminds me of Soylent Green sp?

[tutstar]

kicker is right

[sweetliberty]

"God is the one who has kept her alive!"

Yes, and that is what I'm holding on to. We know who the real battle is between and we know how it ends and that is where we must put our trust.

[atruelady]

We should all go to bed now. If we get a good nights sleep, we will be able to e-mail the heck out of the Judges, Hospitals, etc.

[supercat]

If Felos doesn't stop lying on national television and tricking the family, I'll never get a good night's sleep.

First thing for a GAL to do: FIRE FELOS.

[kenth]

Wow, first I've heard of it. Good find! Hope it's true and they mean business.

If true, could an ongoing investigation sideline Schiavo's guardianship?

We maintain hope in the face of evil. Continued prayers for Terri.

[honeygrl]

Will someone post the text of http://www.centredaily.com/mld/centredaily/news/7079354.htm so I can read it? I can't get through to the website myself.

[tutstar]

Agency to probe alleged spousal abuse of brain damaged woman
BY MICHAEL MARTINEZ AND PAT KAMPERT
Chicago Tribune

PINELLAS PARK, Fla. - (KRT) - A state protection agency for disabled persons on Wednesday was planning to launch an investigation into alleged spousal abuse against Terri Schiavo, the severely brain damaged woman whose feeding tube was reinserted this week after intervention by the Florida Legislature and Gov. Jeb Bush.

The investigation by the Advocacy Center for Persons with Disabilities, an agency mandated in states and funded by Congress, could play a decisive role in a revived legal battle over who should be the guardian of the 39-year-old Schiavo - her husband or her parents.

Terri Schiavo was moved Wednesday for the second time in two days - this time back to a Pinellas Park hospice where she was receiving nourishment again through a feeding tube. Later, Robert Schindler, her father, said he, his wife and son visited Schiavo for about 45 minutes.

The family was annoyed, Schindler said, that Schiavo had been moved again from the hospital in nearby Clearwater where she had been taken on Tuesday.

Schindler said he was happy to see his daughter, but "she looked to me like a person who has the flu - (someone who would say) don't bother me," He called his daughter "a really tired girl" and said he was struck by some redness in her eyes.

Her parents had also been upset by the earlier decision of Michael Schiavo, Terri Schiavo's husband and guardian, to bar them from visiting her in the hospital in Clearwater.

"Nothing's different. It's been that way for 10 years," Schindler said of the battle between his family and Michael Schiavo over whether Terri Schiavo should be kept alive with a feeding tube or should die. He made his comments outside the hospice, where Schiavo had spent the past week after a court approved removal of her feeding tube.

Even though lawmakers and Bush passed a law Tuesday authorizing the reinsertion of the feeding tube, her husband has authority, as guardian, to determine who is allowed to visit her.

The Schindler family has accused Michael Schiavo of abuse and neglect as guardian, and the state protection agency's independent investigation could play a major role in removal of the husband as guardian - as well as shed light on how the husband managed funds during the guardianship.

Terri Schiavo's husband and her parents have been estranged for a decade while wrangling over her fate; her husband said that his wife told him she didn't want extended life-support, but her parents have disagreed and have sought to keep her connected to a feeding tube.

The law signed Tuesday by Bush requires the chief judge of Pinellas County Circuit Court to begin proceedings to appoint an independent guardian. The husband's attorney has called the law unconstitutional and is expected to initiate a legal challenge.

The chief judge on Wednesday scheduled a Nov. 5 court hearing and has recommended a public health professor at the University of South Florida, Jay Wolfson, as the new guardian if the in-laws cannot agree on a new guardian.

The governor's order of reinsertion of the feeding tube has bought time for the advocacy center to conduct its investigation as to whether Terri Schiavo has been a victim of abuse and neglect over the past 10 years.

Under federal law, the agency is granted strong investigative powers, including examining medical and court-sealed guardian financial records, and its findings of abuse or neglect would be conclusive and pre-emptive of any court or other agency determination, said Patricia Anderson, an attorney for Terri Schiavo's parents.

It was unclear Wednesday why the agency hadn't launched an investigation earlier in the case of Terri Schiavo, who went into a persistent vegetative state after a heart attack induced by a misdiagnosed potassium imbalance in 1990. Her eyes are open, but she is seriously brain damaged, according to doctors.

"They are referred to as the `big sharks' in the disability field," Anderson said of the agency. "What we have here is a guardianship system that discriminates against disabled people."

Richard LaBelle, an attorney and agency board member who is involved in the investigation, said this week's events will aid the investigation.

"I think to the extent that Terri is still alive and will be receiving food and water - we think that's a positive development," he said.

LaBelle said he did not know how long the probe would take, saying it depended on how much cooperation the agency receives in obtaining Schiavo's medical records and access to individuals on both sides of the court fight.

For his part, Michael Schiavo said Wednesday through his attorney that he is outraged that the legislative and executive branches would overturn a judge's order that had allowed him to have the feeding tube removed from his wife.

"It was just an absolute trampling of her personal rights and her dignity," Michael Schiavo's attorney, George Felos, said Wednesday on NBC's "Today." "We believe that a court sooner or later, we hope sooner, will find this law to be unconstitutional."

Felos added it was "an absolute horrible tragedy for Terri Schiavo, literally being abducted from her deathbed and her death process."

Terri Schiavo was already showing signs of organ failure, Felos said. The attorney for the parents, however, said that Felos has no medical background to make such a claim.

One legal expert, Marc Spindelman, an Ohio State University law professor who specializes in death-and-dying issues, said much is riding on what the advocacy center finds in its probe into claims by Terri Schiavo's parents that her husband abused and neglected his wife.

Those accusations have been strongly denied by Michael Schiavo and his attorney.

"Should there be a determination that the allegations against Michael Schiavo are factually supported, it might be the case that the dispute gets resolved by more informal means," Spindelman said.

Some experts are viewing the case as if it's a foregone conclusion that the courts will overturn the new law, under the assumption that Bush, who is President Bush's brother, and the legislature overruled the courts. But that is not necessarily true, said Andrew Koppelman, a constitutional law expert at Northwestern University.

"I don't understand what separation of powers has to do with it," he said. "Some law is going to govern how people behave toward (Terri) tomorrow. The legislature has to have power to legislate today about what we do tomorrow, and that power is not taken away by the fact that the judiciary said something else yesterday."

Koppelman added that the legislature's action may have aided the Schindlers' case.

"If there is a dispute about the constitutionality of the legislation or anything else having to do with the appropriateness of intervention, the court's first duty is to make sure neither side suffers irreparable injury that couldn't be remedied by subsequent litigation," he said.

Thus, the argument could be made that to remove nutrition and hydration before the case winds it way through the courts would cause Terri Schiavo to suffer "irreparable injury," experts said.

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[FITZ]

Have you ever actually SEEN someone in a coma? It isn't what you think it is --- it's like someone in a deep sleep state, sometimes they mumble something, they respond when you speak to them, they'll open their eyes and watch you. If you are performing a medical procedure on them, it's very important to explain to them so as not to startle them. You can't know what they feel ---- but one thing --- if anyone loses their will to live, they cannot be kept alive with a mere feeding tube.

[Calpernia]

>>>>He took out an Life Insurance Policy on her too.

>>If that happened after he became guardian, that is ABSOLUTELY against the Florida Guardianship Law. He can be a beneficiary ONLY if the policy existed prior to Terri's incapacity


I don't know when the policy was taken out. There is way too much info on this case. I would have to study it; but I only have time for skimming.

[tutstar]

so true...waiting for the ballgame

[floriduh voter]

IMO, hospice made an exception three years ago for their prize. Realize that the Hospice facility is for people with Aids, cancer, etc. terminal patients. They are older and poorer than Terri. Terri is a prize.

[sweetliberty]

"I think Old Sparkey would be less humane and more fittin' for this perp, don't you?"

I have a better idea. How about they "mercifully" starve and dehydrate him to death so he can die with "dignity?"

[tutstar]

and according to what i read today possibly paid by the taxcpayers via medicaid

[Coral Snake]

Personally I would go for the needle, the two of them you would find in the mouth of this puppy that I chose to name myself after here on Free Republic.

[spokeshave]

"Mayo Clinic...UF has great medical facilities as well but dont' know if any near where Terri is"

so...don't the National Guard have helicopters....?

[floriduh voter]

People brimming with goodness forget all the time that there's a dark side. They believe pieces of paper make the bad go away. We must keep calling Jeb Bush, and all those other guys in Tallahassee I brought up before.

[honeygrl]

Thank you!!

[Future Useless Eater]

CNN seems to be just barely starting to pay attention...
For one thing, they called her brain-damaged this time
instead of comatose... (but still titled the article
coma.woman) plus they pointed out this...

[Schiavo] won $1.2 million in a malpractice case against his wife's gynecologist and another $250,000 in a settlement with her general practitioner.

Most of that money was to go toward her treatment. In addition, he received $300,000 for pain and suffering and loss of consortium.

The husband has declined to comment on whether there is an outstanding life insurance policy on his wife.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/10/22/coma.woman/index.html