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Facing unruly students, teacher goes to court
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Posted on 10/21/2003 4:47:27 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

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To: grania
No cell phones in school either.
41 posted on 10/21/2003 8:19:34 AM PDT by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: Sub-Driver
What I don't understand is you never hear of these students that assault the teachers get a little visit from one of teacher's relatives after school hours (if you know what I mean).

If your mother got violently mugged by someone, and you know where that someone is, their name, their address, and the authorities do nothing about it, what do you do? The response would more than likely be to take care of matters yourself.

That is exactly the situation here, and I'm surprised you don't hear more stories of retaliation by some members of the teacher's family against the violent student.

42 posted on 10/21/2003 8:21:37 AM PDT by PallMal
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To: PallMal
On the legal side:

My wife was directly verbally threatened by a student. The principal said, "Don't worry, he really didn't mean it."

She filled criminal charges. The kid was on parole and went back to jail.

Initially she was told by the principal that, as a teacher, she couldn't file charges. Which is a load of bull....

Being employed as a teach does not void your civil rights.
43 posted on 10/21/2003 8:46:16 AM PDT by eborys
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
Any student who physically threatens a teacher should be beaten like a dog.

I don't know about beating him/her like a dog, but severe punishment is in order. I believe the parents should be notified, the incident confirmed, and the student caned (like they do in Singapore). If this doesn't solve them problem, then the parents should be caned. If this doesn't solve the problem, send the whole family to prison and have them break rocks. After the third time of this having occured, you will almost never hear about such threats again.

44 posted on 10/21/2003 9:14:46 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: gore3000
Shows pretty well what is going on in the schools - the animals are protected, the teachers who try to teach are told they are incompetent.

You have no idea how close you are to the truth in many instances. However, at present, I am teaching at an excellent school where discipline is ENFORCED. It's wonderful.

45 posted on 10/21/2003 9:15:43 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: doc30
It's funny. Your sarcastic rant sounds like it is something taken directly from a new teacher's orientation seminar. I know you were only joking, but this honestly is not too far away from the real truth.
46 posted on 10/21/2003 9:31:18 AM PDT by SaveTheChief
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To: dennisw
Put two video cameras in his class room and eject/expel the trouble makers who prevent others from learning. Why should those with mental problems and drug problems be able to stop the students who want to learn?

I used to work in the low-voltage systems (commercial paging and audio, security, video, fire alarm, etc.) insdustry and would talk to facility managers of school systems to help them with whatever it is they needed. On one visit to a medium-size central Indiana college town one day, the facility manager told me that the liberals in that town would NEVER allow video cameras to be placed in their schools, and view this as a violation of civil rights.

I have seen many schools that have cameras placed in the hallways and at entrances, card access systems for front door security, and all kinds of security that is supposed to keep people out, but I don't recall ever seeing a school with cameras in the classrooms.

47 posted on 10/21/2003 9:39:46 AM PDT by SaveTheChief
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh; MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
"People are making moves at me like they're going to punch me, then backing off."

That student, and the student's parents, need to go to jail, immediately. Any student who physically threatens a teacher should be beaten like a dog.

heh... that's what pressure points are for... work for me...

48 posted on 10/21/2003 9:45:58 AM PDT by g'nad
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To: gore3000
Yup. Vouchers are the only answer!
49 posted on 10/21/2003 9:58:26 AM PDT by fatidic
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To: SaveTheChief
A school in MO is now putting cameras in the classroom.
50 posted on 10/21/2003 9:58:36 AM PDT by ladylib
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To: ladylib
I give it less than two years before they are taken out as the result of a lawsuit.
51 posted on 10/21/2003 10:01:24 AM PDT by SaveTheChief
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To: Sub-Driver
Public schools are corrupt beyond repair.
52 posted on 10/21/2003 10:02:53 AM PDT by moyden2000
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To: Sub-Driver
Is there any wonder that more people choose not to become teachers?
53 posted on 10/21/2003 10:05:35 AM PDT by mhking
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To: Sub-Driver
Very good friend of mine - tough lady, although only five-two - teaches physical science and chemistry at a Houston high school that's not even considered "urban." She had a gun pulled on her last Wednesday.
54 posted on 10/21/2003 10:06:08 AM PDT by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
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To: Dallas59
I personally think they shouldn't be kicked out. I think they should go to a tough school that is basically more like a jail.

Every school district should have a school to send the unruly kids to.
55 posted on 10/21/2003 10:08:24 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: eborys
begs the question "why do we pay for this"..........we should get better return on our tax "investment" whith these types...
56 posted on 10/21/2003 10:13:18 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver
"Crazy" Joe Clark
57 posted on 10/21/2003 10:45:05 AM PDT by weave09
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To: weave09
Tried to post a pic of Crazy Joe clark but failed, DOH!
58 posted on 10/21/2003 10:45:47 AM PDT by weave09
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To: Sub-Driver
District officials yesterday defended the school's position and said it was Pitone's job to manage his classroom.

With support like this from the school districts, it's no wonder fewer are going into teaching these days.

59 posted on 10/21/2003 1:36:08 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Sub-Driver
Pitone said he thought he would be able to remove students who cursed at him or acted in a threatening manner because that's the way it was when he was a student: "It's like hot dogs and apple pie. I just thought you could do it."

Welcome to the New Age, PC classroom. This is the reason why kids in high schools aren't learning. They don't have a chance when disruptive students are allowed to remain in a classroom

60 posted on 10/21/2003 1:39:16 PM PDT by SuziQ
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