Jeb Bush CAN STOP death of TERRI SCHIAVO !!! CALL!!!

http://www.terrisfight.org ^ | pollywog

[pollywog]

I chose to put this on Breaking News because it just came on as Breaking NEWS on her website. PLEASE ,PLEASE go to the website http://www.terrisfight.org and read the letters that have just been sent to Jeb Bush in regards to the Terri Schiavo case. JEB BUSH can LEGALLY STOP THIS. CALL his office, CALL YOUR REPRESENTATIVES, CALL and email the media.THE CLOCK is ticking to save her life.

Sorry if this post isn't " polished" and " refined" but I am not a seasoned " poster" here on FR.

[Pan_Yans Wife]

That's not what I am asking, althought I understand your position.

I am asking if Terri has ever been asked that question. Do you know?

[strela]

I am asking if Terri has ever been asked that question.

Assuming that she has, is she capable of answering? I do not believe that she is.

Do you know?

No.

[EternalVigilance]

Back to your trolling duties for the day, I see.

[Darnright]

>But, as far as I know, she didn't have such a document on file and is unfortunately paying the price as a result.

No, you have it wrong. She does not have such a document on file, and is paying the ultimate price in spite of that fact.

Only someone with a hard copy living will should be in this position. NEVER someone without.

[strela]

Back to posting non sequitur and personal attacks, I see.

[Pan_Yans Wife]

That seems to settle it, doesn't it?

If she hasn't been asked that question, because she cannot answer, then no one can assume that they know what her decision is.

Yes, I know the argument about living wills and how they are so important.

However, not having the answer to that question truly does call into question what her wishes are.

And then we get into the hearsay. So, the case is determined by applicable laws, and the interpretation of the facts by the judge.

Perhaps now people will realize that their issue should be with the judge, no matter if they are a supporter of Terri or not. This is why judges are so very important, and we should always be concerned and educated as to where they stand and what type of court they run. This judge may or may not be legislating from the bench. But that is an issue for the legislature of Florida to determine. Perhaps Florida will end up having a Terri Schiavo Law, when this is through.

[honeygrl]

"Actually, I almost never ping anyone except for a kind individual who has asked me to do so about certain kinds of messages. "

Don't worry about that. Some people around FR seem to have made up their own ping rules that require you to ping them if you mention them. While it is a polite thing to do, there is no rule requiring it. Personally, I try to be polite to those who are polite to me. Otherwise they can hunt down the post themselves. There are a select few that I ping even though I can't stand them, but it's usually only because they whined about me not doing it once so I do it anytime I refer to them even hintingly just to annoy them. >:-)

[honeygrl]

"Are you a ghoul, too? Or simply so much of a contrarian that you just have to jump into a situation like this and make a muck of things? "

I think it has proven it's ghoulishness. I think the time has come for us to just mentally ignore the trolls. If no one responds to anything they say, they'll get bored and leave.

[strela]

(strela) But, as far as I know, she didn't have such a document on file and is unfortunately paying the price as a result.

No, you have it wrong.

No, you misunderstand. The fact that she DIDN'T have a Living Will on file is the reason that there is uncertainty as to her wishes about the situation she is in. If she had one on file, she could have stated thereon that she wanted all medical treatment available, and it would have been done. Conversely, she could have stated that she wanted no heroic measures taken to sustain her, and THAT would have been done.

Only someone with a hard copy living will should be in this position. NEVER someone without.

Contradictory/null statement on its face. If she had a Living Will on file, there would be no doubt about what she wanted done about this mess.

[honeygrl]

Terri's dad said that for a while they had a man doing a therapy by phone sort of thing (secretly). He would tell her to move her left arm, move her right arm, etc. on command. In one instance, he was trying to motivate her and told her over the phone if she didn't get up and get out of that place they were going to let her die. She promptly tried to get up and get out of the chair. It was very clear she didn't want to die. Not sure when this was, but it appeared to be within the last year or two.

[strela]

If she hasn't been asked that question, because she cannot answer, then no one can assume that they know what her decision is.

UNLESS the law in the state of Florida supercedes that assumption. And I believe that it has in this case. The crux of this entire argument rests with the state of Florida and their policies on terminally ill/non-responsive patients.

[Pan_Yans Wife]

Can the legislature act quickly enough to change the law?

[Don Joe]

What I don't understand is why a "stay of execution" can't be extended since she is being executed through starvation and has done nothing wrong. Plus the circumstances of her injury are questionable as well as the conflict of interest. Surely Jeb can do something with that.

This would be a good time to show some genuine compassion and make up for the child protective services problems with missing or dead kids.

He is a coward, and a pathetically political creature, obsessed with avoiding any offense to his opponents -- even at the cost of alienating his base.

He won't act, because cowards don't act -- they REact. He is scared that if he does the right thing, the left might not like him. Yes, that's puerile logic -- but it's the level he's operating at.

His opponents -- the ones the spineless wimp is afraid of offending -- are pulling his strings, and he's jumping exactly the way they want him to jump. He's doing their bidding, and they still won't support him.

Country Club Republicans are no match for hard-left streetfighters.

When will the GOP grow a brain? When will it realize that you don't take the Marquis of Queensbury Rules to a streetfight?

Never, it would seem.

[Pan_Yans Wife]

I understand that.

But, I just wanted to know if the question and answer are on record. Because both sides would have a vital interest in knowing the answer to that question, right? Plainly put, YES or NO.

I know what I believe the answer is... I think she wants to live. But, it isn't my opinion that matters.

[Darnright]

"Only someone with a hard copy living will should be in this position. NEVER someone without.

Contradictory/null statement on its face. If she had a Living Will on file, there would be no doubt about what she wanted done about this mess."

Only someone with a Living Will, with a DNR clause, should have treatment withheld. Of course, I disagree strongly with the premise that food and water is "medical treatment".

[Darnright]

"Only someone with a Living Will, with a DNR clause"

Should have read, with a "no heroic measures" clause, I suppose.

[honeygrl]

"My opposition is based on the fact that she is essentially dead in every meaningful way and that she "

What may give your life meaning, may not be the same for all others. Do you support aborting babies too since people question whether they are living as well prior to birth? How about abortion of babies with downs syndrome? How about aborting conjoined twins who may be miserable with surgeries for the first few years of life or have a low percent chance of survival? Do you support euthanizing very early preemies who have a slim chance of survival and may end up with life long disabilities? I really would like to see your answer to each of these questions.

[EternalVigilance]

You're probably right. I'll try.

[Don Joe]

"Are you a ghoul, too? Or simply so much of a contrarian that you just have to jump into a situation like this and make a muck of things?"

Pooie is a simple troll. Always has been, always will be.

If he had a last name, he'd have to stick "flamebait" between it and his first name.

[honeygrl]

"she could have stated that she wanted no heroic measures taken to sustain her,"

Feeding her is NOT a heroic measure to sustain her. That is just basic care.